[solved] Mrs or Ms, sorry if it is a Leslie
-
That's exactly what we learned in English class at school. Disclaimer: At least officially, we wer taught "British" English. Maybe the use of Ms is different in American English.
Member 7989122 wrote:
At least officially, we wer [sic] taught "British" English.
Me too.
Member 7989122 wrote:
Maybe the use of Ms is different in American English.
'Tis the same. :) /ravi
My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com
-
Dear AppropriateGenderPronoun, Dear Ms. X, or, just drop it: Dear Jane, or, title it: Dear CEO Jane xxx, but NEVER EVER: Dear Leader, that is exclusively reserved for NK...
-
I simply stopped using any form of salutation, especially because official ranks were involved, and those often changed. If I had to for a known female, however, I would use Ms.
-
0x01AA wrote:
This is no joke question!
As if this will stop the silly responses. :laugh:
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.
-
Yes, the name Leslie can be a tough one, being an androgynous name, like Pat, or Jordan. If you know the first name, it's best just to address them as such and leave off the last name...unless you live in the Southern US, where it is proper to put a Mr. or Ms. before the first name, usually for older folks. So either Leslie, or Ms. Leslie...unless it's a guy, then it's Leslie, or Mr. Leslie, or just Les, depending on how well you now him...but don't call him Ray! :laugh:
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
Generally speaking, Leslie is male and Lesley is the female version. That used to be almost always the case; these days you occasionally find exceptions but I suspect they are often spelling errors on the part of the parent or registrar! In the UK at least it would be very strange to be addressed as Mr Fred, or Ms Susan (without a surname). Confuses the formality of a title with the informality of a first name. When we see it we generally assume the writer is not a native English speaker. We see it most in spam emails and also hear it in calls from Indian call centres... Of course, if you're writing a letter of complaint, a good salutation is the firm but simple Sir,
-
How should I address a woman in a business letter / mail: Mrs or Ms? [Edit] And of course in Business relation, I don't know whether she is married or not (and what other light or dark things she is doing) [Edit] [Edit1] This is no joke question! [Edit1] Btw. For this, Wiki is something too much theoretical. I like to have pragmatic solution from real people here :-D
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
Now to add to your worries: :) If you start with "Dear Sir/Madam", make sure you sign off with, "Yours faithfully". If you start with their name, sign off with "Yours sincerely". Yours faithfully or Yours sincerely?[^]
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
-
How should I address a woman in a business letter / mail: Mrs or Ms? [Edit] And of course in Business relation, I don't know whether she is married or not (and what other light or dark things she is doing) [Edit] [Edit1] This is no joke question! [Edit1] Btw. For this, Wiki is something too much theoretical. I like to have pragmatic solution from real people here :-D
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
-
How should I address a woman in a business letter / mail: Mrs or Ms? [Edit] And of course in Business relation, I don't know whether she is married or not (and what other light or dark things she is doing) [Edit] [Edit1] This is no joke question! [Edit1] Btw. For this, Wiki is something too much theoretical. I like to have pragmatic solution from real people here :-D
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
I always use Ms. I don't differentiate the treatment of men depending on if they are married or not, so I do the same with women. In Spain, to call the equivalent to Mrs to a woman is something quite old-fashioned -usually it comes from seniors- and considered offensive. But could be acceptable for a teenager.
-
How should I address a woman in a business letter / mail: Mrs or Ms? [Edit] And of course in Business relation, I don't know whether she is married or not (and what other light or dark things she is doing) [Edit] [Edit1] This is no joke question! [Edit1] Btw. For this, Wiki is something too much theoretical. I like to have pragmatic solution from real people here :-D
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
Dear baby. :-D
-
Now to add to your worries: :) If you start with "Dear Sir/Madam", make sure you sign off with, "Yours faithfully". If you start with their name, sign off with "Yours sincerely". Yours faithfully or Yours sincerely?[^]
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
-
I think I will go with "to whom it may concern" :laugh:
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
How about "Darling Fascist Bully-Boy[^]"? :-D
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
-
How should I address a woman in a business letter / mail: Mrs or Ms? [Edit] And of course in Business relation, I don't know whether she is married or not (and what other light or dark things she is doing) [Edit] [Edit1] This is no joke question! [Edit1] Btw. For this, Wiki is something too much theoretical. I like to have pragmatic solution from real people here :-D
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
Traditionally (in American English, at least), "Mrs." implies married, and "Miss" implies unmarried. "Ms." (pronounced more like "Mizz") avoids that distinction. It is an appropriate professional address for a female regardless of marital status. Marital status is irrelevant. * * * Unfortunately, there's no gender-neutral address, which is a problem when one can't tell from the name whether someone is a "Mr." or a "Ms." -- e.g., native English speakers trying to decode Chinese or Indian names. In those cases, I usually just avoid the "Mr." or "Ms." pronoun and simply use the person's full name. "Dear , ..."
-
Traditionally (in American English, at least), "Mrs." implies married, and "Miss" implies unmarried. "Ms." (pronounced more like "Mizz") avoids that distinction. It is an appropriate professional address for a female regardless of marital status. Marital status is irrelevant. * * * Unfortunately, there's no gender-neutral address, which is a problem when one can't tell from the name whether someone is a "Mr." or a "Ms." -- e.g., native English speakers trying to decode Chinese or Indian names. In those cases, I usually just avoid the "Mr." or "Ms." pronoun and simply use the person's full name. "Dear , ..."
-
Your asking this question in the Lounge.... There is about a 0.00000001% chance that your going to get anything anywhere near serious (And Iv'e probably just skewed those odds with this reply) Your not going to get a serious answer in here, not because of any offensiveness, but simply because it's the lounge. Think of this place like the "School Playground of Code Project", what happens here, stays here, and answering serious questions is not a concept easily understood. EDIT [DANG] - I retract my words.... I didn't notice there was a second page!!! :-O I'm impressed, go "The Lounge"!!!
Peter Shaw wrote:
Think of this place like the "School Playground of Code Project"
That explains all the running around with scissors and matches... ;)
Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.
-
Peter Shaw wrote:
Think of this place like the "School Playground of Code Project"
That explains all the running around with scissors and matches... ;)
Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.
YUP :laugh: :laugh: Interesting fact, I'm lead to believe it was me that started all that scissors and matches stuff in the first place :omg:
-
YUP :laugh: :laugh: Interesting fact, I'm lead to believe it was me that started all that scissors and matches stuff in the first place :omg:
Peter Shaw wrote:
, I'm lead to believe it was me that started all that scissors and matches stuff in the first place
Nah, crazy antics have been going on forever around here. Unless you are referencing something else? Edit, wow, I just looked, I have been floating in and out of CP for over 14yrs now. Sheesh.
Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.
-
Peter Shaw wrote:
, I'm lead to believe it was me that started all that scissors and matches stuff in the first place
Nah, crazy antics have been going on forever around here. Unless you are referencing something else? Edit, wow, I just looked, I have been floating in and out of CP for over 14yrs now. Sheesh.
Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.
ha ha, no not at all.... I just recall someone mentioning something similar once over, and that it was my fault. I get told all sorts of things are my fault, I just usually grin and walk away, like water of a ducks back so to speak.
-
How should I address a woman in a business letter / mail: Mrs or Ms? [Edit] And of course in Business relation, I don't know whether she is married or not (and what other light or dark things she is doing) [Edit] [Edit1] This is no joke question! [Edit1] Btw. For this, Wiki is something too much theoretical. I like to have pragmatic solution from real people here :-D
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
You could try writing to Dear Abby or Mrs. Manners in the local newspaper. If you do not get local delivery, try going to the New York Times web site and they may have one of these two columnists who give advice.
-
Traditionally (in American English, at least), "Mrs." implies married, and "Miss" implies unmarried. "Ms." (pronounced more like "Mizz") avoids that distinction. It is an appropriate professional address for a female regardless of marital status. Marital status is irrelevant. * * * Unfortunately, there's no gender-neutral address, which is a problem when one can't tell from the name whether someone is a "Mr." or a "Ms." -- e.g., native English speakers trying to decode Chinese or Indian names. In those cases, I usually just avoid the "Mr." or "Ms." pronoun and simply use the person's full name. "Dear , ..."
Including the name Leslie. In some instances, Leslie can be a male's name. For example: Leslie Nielsen.
