What happened to MSDN Subscriptions?
-
Where you could get access to different OS's, products, servers, tools, etc? The thing called "Visual Studio Subscription" is BS. It looks like the "Pro" license is radically scaled back in what you get for your $1200 ($800 renewal.) And I want to X| with how they're pushing VSTS, TFS, cloud services, and training. It looks like Pro comes with the servers, the various flavors of Windows, but not Office. What am I missing? Is it even worth getting a subscription for solo developer? Used to keep my MSDN subscription up to date, but then MS screwed it up somehow, their Indian support didn't help, and I let it lapse. Looking just now, it looks like drivel. I want to see the exact details of what I'm buying, but all I see is the "MARKETING, MARKETING, MARKETING" dance. The dark side is growing lighter by the day. :~
Latest Article - Building a Prototype Web-Based Diagramming Tool with SVG and Javascript Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
There were email and blog about it last November... It means Microsoft gives much less for the same price... It called business optimization... I'm glad didn't payed the price for the last 3 years...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
-
Where you could get access to different OS's, products, servers, tools, etc? The thing called "Visual Studio Subscription" is BS. It looks like the "Pro" license is radically scaled back in what you get for your $1200 ($800 renewal.) And I want to X| with how they're pushing VSTS, TFS, cloud services, and training. It looks like Pro comes with the servers, the various flavors of Windows, but not Office. What am I missing? Is it even worth getting a subscription for solo developer? Used to keep my MSDN subscription up to date, but then MS screwed it up somehow, their Indian support didn't help, and I let it lapse. Looking just now, it looks like drivel. I want to see the exact details of what I'm buying, but all I see is the "MARKETING, MARKETING, MARKETING" dance. The dark side is growing lighter by the day. :~
Latest Article - Building a Prototype Web-Based Diagramming Tool with SVG and Javascript Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
Have you checked the Microsoft Action Pack? It is not as feature rich as MSDN, but it's cca £300 / year and includes most MS software. And then (for testing) there are cloud services where you can select the target machine (incl. OS and software), rent it for a few days, and delete it afterwards.
-
Have you checked the Microsoft Action Pack? It is not as feature rich as MSDN, but it's cca £300 / year and includes most MS software. And then (for testing) there are cloud services where you can select the target machine (incl. OS and software), rent it for a few days, and delete it afterwards.
Tomaž Štih wrote:
Have you checked the Microsoft Action Pack?
Ah, I forgot about that - thank you for posting, that looks like it'll fit the bill for a lot smaller bill. ;)
Latest Article - Building a Prototype Web-Based Diagramming Tool with SVG and Javascript Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
-
Where you could get access to different OS's, products, servers, tools, etc? The thing called "Visual Studio Subscription" is BS. It looks like the "Pro" license is radically scaled back in what you get for your $1200 ($800 renewal.) And I want to X| with how they're pushing VSTS, TFS, cloud services, and training. It looks like Pro comes with the servers, the various flavors of Windows, but not Office. What am I missing? Is it even worth getting a subscription for solo developer? Used to keep my MSDN subscription up to date, but then MS screwed it up somehow, their Indian support didn't help, and I let it lapse. Looking just now, it looks like drivel. I want to see the exact details of what I'm buying, but all I see is the "MARKETING, MARKETING, MARKETING" dance. The dark side is growing lighter by the day. :~
Latest Article - Building a Prototype Web-Based Diagramming Tool with SVG and Javascript Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
Marc Clifton wrote:
their Indian support didn't help
You dont say! I tried to activate a personal MSDN subscription via India. Absolute waste of time. Useless, utterly useless. So useless they could barely speak, or understand English. I ended up calling a French support line instead...
-
Marc Clifton wrote:
their Indian support didn't help
You dont say! I tried to activate a personal MSDN subscription via India. Absolute waste of time. Useless, utterly useless. So useless they could barely speak, or understand English. I ended up calling a French support line instead...
Munchies_Matt wrote:
So useless they could barely speak, or understand English. I ended up calling a French support line instead...
I'm sorry sir, but I don't understand where exactly is the difference. ;P
GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
-
Marc Clifton wrote:
their Indian support didn't help
You dont say! I tried to activate a personal MSDN subscription via India. Absolute waste of time. Useless, utterly useless. So useless they could barely speak, or understand English. I ended up calling a French support line instead...
Munchies_Matt wrote:
So useless they could barely speak, or understand English. I ended up calling a French support line instead...
You found a Frenchman who admitted he could speak English?! :omg: :wtf:
Ad astra - both ways!
-
Munchies_Matt wrote:
So useless they could barely speak, or understand English. I ended up calling a French support line instead...
You found a Frenchman who admitted he could speak English?! :omg: :wtf:
Ad astra - both ways!
Er, no, I gave up with the *English* helpline and phoned a French one instead (since I also speak French).
-
Munchies_Matt wrote:
So useless they could barely speak, or understand English. I ended up calling a French support line instead...
I'm sorry sir, but I don't understand where exactly is the difference. ;P
GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
The difference is that I speak French too. :)
-
Marc Clifton wrote:
their Indian support didn't help
You dont say! I tried to activate a personal MSDN subscription via India. Absolute waste of time. Useless, utterly useless. So useless they could barely speak, or understand English. I ended up calling a French support line instead...
Munchies_Matt wrote:
I ended up calling a French support line instead...
The irony to that is that you at least speak French, but for some reason, you can never get a person on a help line that actually speaks English!
Latest Article - Building a Prototype Web-Based Diagramming Tool with SVG and Javascript Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
-
Munchies_Matt wrote:
I ended up calling a French support line instead...
The irony to that is that you at least speak French, but for some reason, you can never get a person on a help line that actually speaks English!
Latest Article - Building a Prototype Web-Based Diagramming Tool with SVG and Javascript Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
The state of English in India is shocking. It is almost becoming a different language.
-
The state of English in India is shocking. It is almost becoming a different language.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
The state of English in India is shocking. It is almost becoming a different language.
I suspect that's what the Brit's say about us Americans too. ;)
Latest Article - Building a Prototype Web-Based Diagramming Tool with SVG and Javascript Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
-
Where you could get access to different OS's, products, servers, tools, etc? The thing called "Visual Studio Subscription" is BS. It looks like the "Pro" license is radically scaled back in what you get for your $1200 ($800 renewal.) And I want to X| with how they're pushing VSTS, TFS, cloud services, and training. It looks like Pro comes with the servers, the various flavors of Windows, but not Office. What am I missing? Is it even worth getting a subscription for solo developer? Used to keep my MSDN subscription up to date, but then MS screwed it up somehow, their Indian support didn't help, and I let it lapse. Looking just now, it looks like drivel. I want to see the exact details of what I'm buying, but all I see is the "MARKETING, MARKETING, MARKETING" dance. The dark side is growing lighter by the day. :~
Latest Article - Building a Prototype Web-Based Diagramming Tool with SVG and Javascript Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
I found that the MSDN subscription (the free one where you got the snail-mail CD library) was intermittant. I would have said be patient the duty cycle has grown longer with the passage of you-know-what ... but in light of all these missile launches ... perhaps those days are truly gone. :thumbsup:
-
I don't know, but a couple of weeks ago all the developers on my team received emails stating that "Visual Studio Premium" and "Visual Studio Ultimate" (no mention of version, just edition) are obsolete and must be "removed immediately" and replaced with a newer version. I assume MS changed their pricing policy.
They've changed how licenses are managed; i.e. if you used to assign licenses via the Volume Licensing Service Center you should now use the VS Manage Portal. An email was sent out to VLSC admins recently; so hopefully someone in your organisation got this? In addition, I believe subscriptions may expire when their parents do; so if you have a VS subscription with 2 years left but the Enterprise Agreement it was purchased under expires today, all those child subscriptions expire early. I'm not sure if this is still the case; happened to us ~8 years ago; though I think it was resolved after various support calls; so not sure whether it was intentional...
-
Munchies_Matt wrote:
The state of English in India is shocking. It is almost becoming a different language.
I suspect that's what the Brit's say about us Americans too. ;)
Latest Article - Building a Prototype Web-Based Diagramming Tool with SVG and Javascript Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
Yeah, well the possessive apostrophe does not work in a plural. :) Sorry, I couldn't find a 'pedant' emoji.
-
Munchies_Matt wrote:
The state of English in India is shocking. It is almost becoming a different language.
I suspect that's what the Brit's say about us Americans too. ;)
Latest Article - Building a Prototype Web-Based Diagramming Tool with SVG and Javascript Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
Nah, not really. American English is actually old British English, 17th century English. What they speak in India is so badly affected by their accent and particularly way of speaking that it is often incomprehensible.
-
Munchies_Matt wrote:
I ended up calling a French support line instead...
The irony to that is that you at least speak French, but for some reason, you can never get a person on a help line that actually speaks English!
Latest Article - Building a Prototype Web-Based Diagramming Tool with SVG and Javascript Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
The difference is that the French do care about their language. The Americans will gladly sell their language off to make a buck ($).
