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  • M Michael Breeden

    My friend inherited a Joomla website for a theater group and needs to modify it or start over. It needs to do PayPal, sell theater tickets. She used to be very technical. I figure the PHP in Joomla should be easy enough for here. Does anyone have any other suggestions though or useful thoughts... Maybe just funny ones? I can't really tell her how much I like MVC with .NET core. It wouldn't help.

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    Friends don't let friends create Websites.

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      Friends don't let friends create Websites.

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      Ravi Bhavnani
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      +5 :-D /ravi

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      • M Michael Breeden

        My friend inherited a Joomla website for a theater group and needs to modify it or start over. It needs to do PayPal, sell theater tickets. She used to be very technical. I figure the PHP in Joomla should be easy enough for here. Does anyone have any other suggestions though or useful thoughts... Maybe just funny ones? I can't really tell her how much I like MVC with .NET core. It wouldn't help.

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        Michael Breeden wrote:

        Best tools for my friend to make a website

        A hammer, if anything.

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        • M Michael Breeden

          My friend inherited a Joomla website for a theater group and needs to modify it or start over. It needs to do PayPal, sell theater tickets. She used to be very technical. I figure the PHP in Joomla should be easy enough for here. Does anyone have any other suggestions though or useful thoughts... Maybe just funny ones? I can't really tell her how much I like MVC with .NET core. It wouldn't help.

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          I can address some aspects of the the Joomla option. Ask these questions first: 1. Does the existing website provide all the other functionality that the organization requires? 2. Was that website put together by a someone with a development background? In other words is it well organised or not? If yes to these then consider upgrading the existing website. The way to do this is not by developing your own plugin but by finding an existing extension (usually paid for) that will do the job. Unless your friend has real knowledge of programming I would advise against developing a custom Joomla plugin. This will have ongoing support issues due to changes in Joomla etc. Also the "PHP in Joomla" is non-trivial unless you have PHP experience Setting up your workstation for Joomla development - Joomla! Documentation[^] A Google search shows a number of ecommerce Paypal plugins for Joomla. These usually can be tested for free even if not free. The way to test is to set up a local server with XAMPP install the website and try the plugin there. Look at the history, support and reviews of any you consider. If you find one that does the job this can be a very good way to get you going. If you choose not to upgrade the Joomla site then another option is to create a new website in Joomla or Drupal. If neither of those options seem attractive then all others are on the table. In that case leveraging any existing knowledge is the way I would go.

          Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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          • M Michael Breeden

            My friend inherited a Joomla website for a theater group and needs to modify it or start over. It needs to do PayPal, sell theater tickets. She used to be very technical. I figure the PHP in Joomla should be easy enough for here. Does anyone have any other suggestions though or useful thoughts... Maybe just funny ones? I can't really tell her how much I like MVC with .NET core. It wouldn't help.

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            I used Wix to throw together a site, it was very simple and I thought looked good, but then I have appalling judgement.

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            • M Michael Breeden

              My friend inherited a Joomla website for a theater group and needs to modify it or start over. It needs to do PayPal, sell theater tickets. She used to be very technical. I figure the PHP in Joomla should be easy enough for here. Does anyone have any other suggestions though or useful thoughts... Maybe just funny ones? I can't really tell her how much I like MVC with .NET core. It wouldn't help.

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              Marc Clifton
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              Michael Breeden wrote:

              My friend inherited a Joomla website for a theater group and needs to modify it or start over.

              As long as it does what she needs it to do, she shouldn't care what's behind the curtain, whether it's Joomla / PHP, Django / Pyhon, MVC / .NET, etc. Just as long as it's not Ruby on Rails. ;)

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                I used Wix to throw together a site, it was very simple and I thought looked good, but then I have appalling judgement.

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                Michael Breeden
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                Me too. Why I'm asking here.

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                  I can address some aspects of the the Joomla option. Ask these questions first: 1. Does the existing website provide all the other functionality that the organization requires? 2. Was that website put together by a someone with a development background? In other words is it well organised or not? If yes to these then consider upgrading the existing website. The way to do this is not by developing your own plugin but by finding an existing extension (usually paid for) that will do the job. Unless your friend has real knowledge of programming I would advise against developing a custom Joomla plugin. This will have ongoing support issues due to changes in Joomla etc. Also the "PHP in Joomla" is non-trivial unless you have PHP experience Setting up your workstation for Joomla development - Joomla! Documentation[^] A Google search shows a number of ecommerce Paypal plugins for Joomla. These usually can be tested for free even if not free. The way to test is to set up a local server with XAMPP install the website and try the plugin there. Look at the history, support and reviews of any you consider. If you find one that does the job this can be a very good way to get you going. If you choose not to upgrade the Joomla site then another option is to create a new website in Joomla or Drupal. If neither of those options seem attractive then all others are on the table. In that case leveraging any existing knowledge is the way I would go.

                  Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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                  Michael Breeden
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                  She said she was going to contact the ISP. She'll have more information. Really, is the existing website well designed? That would determine a lot about where she goes. I'm assuming she can use the existing PayPal plugin. Hopefully she doesn't need much else in the way of modifications.

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                    Friends don't let friends create Websites.

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                    Michael Breeden
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                    Well duh. :-D Still, she needs to d something.

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                    • M Michael Breeden

                      My friend inherited a Joomla website for a theater group and needs to modify it or start over. It needs to do PayPal, sell theater tickets. She used to be very technical. I figure the PHP in Joomla should be easy enough for here. Does anyone have any other suggestions though or useful thoughts... Maybe just funny ones? I can't really tell her how much I like MVC with .NET core. It wouldn't help.

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                      Have you checked the Joomla Extensions site? There are thousands of extensions there. I recall using one back in 2009 to build a ticket site for an arts group. Can't recall what it was now, but the developer was based in England (if that helps). There are also 3rd party sites that let you generate the basic framework for a Joomla extension and you can just fill in the rest. I prefer C#/MVC for web development, but can change hats to do the PHP without suffering (much). Joomla is pretty well written and OO. If you squimnt MySQL is kinda like SQL Server, but slightly brain dead. I would look for a pre-built extension before doing development though.

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                      • M Michael Breeden

                        My friend inherited a Joomla website for a theater group and needs to modify it or start over. It needs to do PayPal, sell theater tickets. She used to be very technical. I figure the PHP in Joomla should be easy enough for here. Does anyone have any other suggestions though or useful thoughts... Maybe just funny ones? I can't really tell her how much I like MVC with .NET core. It wouldn't help.

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                        Kirk 10389821
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                        Having used Joomla long ago, when they rewrote it, I feel the broke it. The made it easier to SELL modules for themselves, but the number of sites that are hacked because they run Joomla is too large. Many plugins are vulnerable, and it needs to be constantly updated. While I hated wordpress, the few sites I support auto update to the new version, and they have not been hacked yet. IF you want a CMS as the basis. Which, for the application you mention, you probably do, I would consider it.

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                          Having used Joomla long ago, when they rewrote it, I feel the broke it. The made it easier to SELL modules for themselves, but the number of sites that are hacked because they run Joomla is too large. Many plugins are vulnerable, and it needs to be constantly updated. While I hated wordpress, the few sites I support auto update to the new version, and they have not been hacked yet. IF you want a CMS as the basis. Which, for the application you mention, you probably do, I would consider it.

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                          Michael Breeden
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                          Thanks

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