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  • R Ravi Bhavnani

    An alternative viewpoint: 14 most popular programming languages according to Stack Overflow study[^] /ravi

    My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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    georani
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    > ...An alternative viewpoint: 14 most popular programming languages according to Stack Overflow... Stack Overflow can not measure the popularity of a language, but the difficulty of programmers to use it, the more questions, the more problematic is that language. Tiobe Index is more trustful.

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      Visual Basic.NET is a great programming language, so powerful as C#, but more fun and readable to program with it. So finally after so many years VB.NET has surpassed C# in TIOBE Index (July 2018) See Picture Here (July 2018) www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/

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      Hmmm there are some strange entries in the top 20, including VB, presumably the version that has been dead for over a decade.

      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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        Hmmm there are some strange entries in the top 20, including VB, presumably the version that has been dead for over a decade.

        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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        VB and VB.Net are different languages. The old VB is at the top 20 because it is still largely used around the world, it is far from being "dead". VB.Net at the other hand is a very powerful and advanced language, very similar to C#. Do more research before saying things you don't know.

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          VB and VB.Net are different languages. The old VB is at the top 20 because it is still largely used around the world, it is far from being "dead". VB.Net at the other hand is a very powerful and advanced language, very similar to C#. Do more research before saying things you don't know.

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          For dead read unsupported which equates to dead! My development path was from Superbase to Access to VB4 to VB6 and then to VB.net and then to c# so I know precisely what I am talking about. And there are still some strange entries ia rather minor player to be up there.n the top 20. Delphi, which I also dabbled in, seems a little strange, and Mathlab, a programming language. And they split PL/SQL and SQL (presumably TSQL) seems an odd segregation. Still statistics and all that!

          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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            Visual Basic.NET is a great programming language, so powerful as C#, but more fun and readable to program with it. So finally after so many years VB.NET has surpassed C# in TIOBE Index (July 2018) See Picture Here (July 2018) www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/

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            georani wrote:

            Visual Basic.NET is a great programming language

            Nothing which includes

            On Error Resume Next

            Can be described as great, or even as a programming language.

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              georani wrote:

              Visual Basic.NET is a great programming language

              Nothing which includes

              On Error Resume Next

              Can be described as great, or even as a programming language.

              Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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              Now you have done it. He already was foaming over throwing VB and VB.Net into one pot.

              I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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              • G georani

                Visual Basic.NET is a great programming language, so powerful as C#, but more fun and readable to program with it. So finally after so many years VB.NET has surpassed C# in TIOBE Index (July 2018) See Picture Here (July 2018) www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/

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                georani wrote:

                but more fun and readable to program with

                :omg:

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                  Now you have done it. He already was foaming over throwing VB and VB.Net into one pot.

                  I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                  VB fanbois: you know what they are like ... :laugh:

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                    georani wrote:

                    but more fun and readable to program with

                    :omg:

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                    OriginalGriff
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                    georani wrote:

                    but more fun and readable to program with

                    Google translate: "The only language I know"

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      VB fanbois: you know what they are like ... :laugh:

                      Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                      And I thought I was the only one here who enjoys poking the fanbois (of any sort) until they jump up to the ceiling.

                      I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        georani wrote:

                        but more fun and readable to program with

                        Google translate: "The only language I know"

                        Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                        Wait until he discovers JavaScript. He is perfect JS fanboi material.

                        I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                          Wait until he discovers JavaScript. He is perfect JS fanboi material.

                          I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                          OriginalGriff
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                          Oh gawd. We don't need another one; the world doesn't need another one. Anyway, he'll never cope: "{" instead of "Begin" will blow his mind. :laugh:

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                          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                            Visual Basic.NET is a great programming language, so powerful as C#, but more fun and readable to program with it. So finally after so many years VB.NET has surpassed C# in TIOBE Index (July 2018) See Picture Here (July 2018) www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/

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                            So, The TIOBE index is nothing more than an analysis of search results from the following search engines:

                            [Search Engine] [Weight]
                            Google.com 7.69%
                            Youtube.com 7.38%
                            Baidu.com 7.08%
                            Wikipedia.org 6.77%
                            Yahoo.com: 6.46%
                            Google.co.in: 6.15%
                            Google.co.jp: 5.85%
                            Google.ru: 5.54%
                            Google.co.uk: 5.23%
                            Google.com.br: 4.92%
                            Google.com.hk: 4.62%
                            Google.de: 4.31%
                            Google.fr: 4.00%
                            Ebay.com: 3.69%
                            Csdn.net: 3.38%
                            Bing.com: 3.08%
                            Msn.com: 2.77%
                            Google.it: 2.46%
                            Hao123.com: 2.15%
                            Google.ca: 1.85%
                            Google.com.au: 1.54%
                            Google.es: 1.23%
                            Google.com.mx: 0.92%
                            Ebay.de: 0.62%
                            Google.com.tr: 0.31%
                            = 100%

                            Using the following search term: +" programming" And the result is derived from the following equation: ((hits(PL,SE1)/hits(SE1) + ... + hits(PL,SEn)/hits(SEn))/n Source: [TIOBE Programming Community Index Definition](https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/programming-languages-definition/) It's basically a meaningless number. Have a look at the [graph they have presented](https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/). Notice that in early 2004 there is a glitch in their graph where Python jumps up and Java and C++ tank dramatically. That happened because of the Google PageRank algorithm changes codenamed 'Austin' and 'Brandy' that was designed to combat the old SEO tricks webmasters used to get higher rank. In other words... when search engines change their algorithm the tiobe index jumps all around. Best Wishes, -David Delaune

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                              So, The TIOBE index is nothing more than an analysis of search results from the following search engines:

                              [Search Engine] [Weight]
                              Google.com 7.69%
                              Youtube.com 7.38%
                              Baidu.com 7.08%
                              Wikipedia.org 6.77%
                              Yahoo.com: 6.46%
                              Google.co.in: 6.15%
                              Google.co.jp: 5.85%
                              Google.ru: 5.54%
                              Google.co.uk: 5.23%
                              Google.com.br: 4.92%
                              Google.com.hk: 4.62%
                              Google.de: 4.31%
                              Google.fr: 4.00%
                              Ebay.com: 3.69%
                              Csdn.net: 3.38%
                              Bing.com: 3.08%
                              Msn.com: 2.77%
                              Google.it: 2.46%
                              Hao123.com: 2.15%
                              Google.ca: 1.85%
                              Google.com.au: 1.54%
                              Google.es: 1.23%
                              Google.com.mx: 0.92%
                              Ebay.de: 0.62%
                              Google.com.tr: 0.31%
                              = 100%

                              Using the following search term: +" programming" And the result is derived from the following equation: ((hits(PL,SE1)/hits(SE1) + ... + hits(PL,SEn)/hits(SEn))/n Source: [TIOBE Programming Community Index Definition](https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/programming-languages-definition/) It's basically a meaningless number. Have a look at the [graph they have presented](https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/). Notice that in early 2004 there is a glitch in their graph where Python jumps up and Java and C++ tank dramatically. That happened because of the Google PageRank algorithm changes codenamed 'Austin' and 'Brandy' that was designed to combat the old SEO tricks webmasters used to get higher rank. In other words... when search engines change their algorithm the tiobe index jumps all around. Best Wishes, -David Delaune

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                              OriginalGriff
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                              Oi! No confusing the faithful with facts - that's cheating! :laugh:

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                                Oi! No confusing the faithful with facts - that's cheating! :laugh:

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                                Trust me, Here is proof: PROOF Best Wishes, -David Delaune

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                                  Trust me, Here is proof: PROOF Best Wishes, -David Delaune

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                                  Your proof is overwhelming: how could any man of reason fail to be convinced? :-D

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                                    Visual Basic.NET is a great programming language, so powerful as C#, but more fun and readable to program with it. So finally after so many years VB.NET has surpassed C# in TIOBE Index (July 2018) See Picture Here (July 2018) www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/

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                                    georani wrote:

                                    so powerful as C#, but more fun and readable to program with it.

                                    C# is a cleaned up version of VB. "Fun" you say. I say there's a lot of hobbyists. Aaaw, the fun of cleaning up after them - so much, I regularly refuse to :thumbsup:

                                    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                    • R Ravi Bhavnani

                                      An alternative viewpoint: 14 most popular programming languages according to Stack Overflow study[^] /ravi

                                      My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                                      Like every other "study" it had an agenda to push the statistical results they wanted to emphasize.

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                                        georani wrote:

                                        Visual Basic.NET is a great programming language

                                        Nothing which includes

                                        On Error Resume Next

                                        Can be described as great, or even as a programming language.

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                                        Quote:

                                        On Error Resume Next

                                        There is no this kind of code in VB NET. Study more.

                                        Try

                                            x = x \\ y
                                            MessageBox.Show("end of Try block")
                                        
                                        Catch ex As Exception
                                            MessageBox.Show(ex.Message)
                                            MessageBox.Show("Stack Trace: " & vbCrLf & ex.StackTrace)
                                        
                                        Finally
                                            MessageBox.Show("in Finally block")
                                        End Try
                                        
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                                          Quote:

                                          On Error Resume Next

                                          There is no this kind of code in VB NET. Study more.

                                          Try

                                              x = x \\ y
                                              MessageBox.Show("end of Try block")
                                          
                                          Catch ex As Exception
                                              MessageBox.Show(ex.Message)
                                              MessageBox.Show("Stack Trace: " & vbCrLf & ex.StackTrace)
                                          
                                          Finally
                                              MessageBox.Show("in Finally block")
                                          End Try
                                          
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                                          OriginalGriff
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                                          Rather than going with an opinion, I'd suggest that you check the facts instead:

                                          Module Module1

                                          Sub Main()
                                              On Error Resume Next
                                          
                                              Console.WriteLine("Hello World!")
                                              Console.ReadLine()
                                          End Sub
                                          

                                          End Module

                                          Just because Try...Catch blocks are there, doesn't mean the old ways aren't. But then, facts never mean anything to the faithful, do they?

                                          Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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