Visual Basic.NET Exceeded C# Popularity in TIOBE in July 2018

Mycroft Holmes

For dead read unsupported which equates to dead! My development path was from Superbase to Access to VB4 to VB6 and then to VB.net and then to c# so I know precisely what I am talking about. And there are still some strange entries ia rather minor player to be up there.n the top 20. Delphi, which I also dabbled in, seems a little strange, and Mathlab, a programming language. And they split PL/SQL and SQL (presumably TSQL) seems an odd segregation. Still statistics and all that!

Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

OriginalGriff

georani wrote:

Visual Basic.NET is a great programming language

Nothing which includes

On Error Resume Next

Can be described as great, or even as a programming language.

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CodeWraith

Now you have done it. He already was foaming over throwing VB and VB.Net into one pot.

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Lost User

georani wrote:

but more fun and readable to program with

:omg:

OriginalGriff

VB fanbois: you know what they are like ... :laugh:

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OriginalGriff

georani wrote:

but more fun and readable to program with

Google translate: "The only language I know"

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CodeWraith

And I thought I was the only one here who enjoys poking the fanbois (of any sort) until they jump up to the ceiling.

I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

CodeWraith

Wait until he discovers JavaScript. He is perfect JS fanboi material.

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OriginalGriff

Oh gawd. We don't need another one; the world doesn't need another one. Anyway, he'll never cope: "{" instead of "Begin" will blow his mind. :laugh:

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Lost User

So, The TIOBE index is nothing more than an analysis of search results from the following search engines:

[Search Engine] [Weight]
Google.com 7.69%
Youtube.com 7.38%
Baidu.com 7.08%
Wikipedia.org 6.77%
Yahoo.com: 6.46%
Google.co.in: 6.15%
Google.co.jp: 5.85%
Google.ru: 5.54%
Google.co.uk: 5.23%
Google.com.br: 4.92%
Google.com.hk: 4.62%
Google.de: 4.31%
Google.fr: 4.00%
Ebay.com: 3.69%
Csdn.net: 3.38%
Bing.com: 3.08%
Msn.com: 2.77%
Google.it: 2.46%
Hao123.com: 2.15%
Google.ca: 1.85%
Google.com.au: 1.54%
Google.es: 1.23%
Google.com.mx: 0.92%
Ebay.de: 0.62%
Google.com.tr: 0.31%
= 100%

Using the following search term: +" programming" And the result is derived from the following equation: ((hits(PL,SE1)/hits(SE1) + ... + hits(PL,SEn)/hits(SEn))/n Source: [TIOBE Programming Community Index Definition](https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/programming-languages-definition/) It's basically a meaningless number. Have a look at the [graph they have presented](https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/). Notice that in early 2004 there is a glitch in their graph where Python jumps up and Java and C++ tank dramatically. That happened because of the Google PageRank algorithm changes codenamed 'Austin' and 'Brandy' that was designed to combat the old SEO tricks webmasters used to get higher rank. In other words... when search engines change their algorithm the tiobe index jumps all around. Best Wishes, -David Delaune

OriginalGriff

Oi! No confusing the faithful with facts - that's cheating! :laugh:

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Lost User

Trust me, Here is proof: PROOF Best Wishes, -David Delaune

OriginalGriff

Your proof is overwhelming: how could any man of reason fail to be convinced? :-D

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Lost User

georani wrote:

so powerful as C#, but more fun and readable to program with it.

C# is a cleaned up version of VB. "Fun" you say. I say there's a lot of hobbyists. Aaaw, the fun of cleaning up after them - so much, I regularly refuse to :thumbsup:

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realJSOP

Like every other "study" it had an agenda to push the statistical results they wanted to emphasize.

".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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georani

Quote:

On Error Resume Next

There is no this kind of code in VB NET. Study more.

Try

    x = x \\ y
    MessageBox.Show("end of Try block")

Catch ex As Exception
    MessageBox.Show(ex.Message)
    MessageBox.Show("Stack Trace: " & vbCrLf & ex.StackTrace)

Finally
    MessageBox.Show("in Finally block")
End Try

OriginalGriff

Rather than going with an opinion, I'd suggest that you check the facts instead:

Module Module1

Sub Main()
    On Error Resume Next

    Console.WriteLine("Hello World!")
    Console.ReadLine()
End Sub

End Module

Just because Try...Catch blocks are there, doesn't mean the old ways aren't. But then, facts never mean anything to the faithful, do they?

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georani

OK, C# has GOTO, and now?

for (int i = 0; i < x; i++)
{
for (int j = 0; j < y; j++)
{
if (array[i, j].Equals(myNumber))
{
goto Found;
}
}
}

    Console.WriteLine("The number {0} was not found.", myNumber);
    goto Finish;

Found:
    Console.WriteLine("The number {0} is found.", myNumber);

Finish:
    Console.WriteLine("End of search.");

georani

Yes fun e readable. Please compare this VB.NET code:

Public Class MyClass1
Public Property Mynumber As Integer = 3
End Class

With This C# equivalent

public class MyClass1
{
public int Mynumber {get; set;} = 3;
}

I Think VB.NET is more readable and fun.

OriginalGriff

And VB doesn't? Yes it does have goto - because there are occasions when you need it. But outside a student's homework submitted to a lazy teacher I've not seen - let alone used - goto once in the "real world". Face it: VB is based on a language designed for people who can't code, don't want to code, and have no interest in quality. It still has those early days buried deep in it's fabric: the On Error rubbish, the weak typing, the lack of need to declare anything. Those aren't strengths, they are contributing factors to poor maintainability which are designed right into the language. That's why C# is the way it is: it encourages the production of more robust and understandable code. Yes, you can produce good code in VB - but you have to treat it more like C# to do it and do all the work yourself!

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