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    Sander Rossel
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    So today I got an email from my gas and electricity company that they want to "do things differently." I don't know how people in other countries get billed, but over here you pay the same amount each month and once a year someone comes to check on your meter and what your actual usage was and you either get money back or have to pay extra. It's an archaic system and people fear the yearly end bill. Now, with the "new" system they want to give people a reminder to check their own meter every few months. Here's the good part though: lots of people, including myself, have "SMART" METERS! The company can read my actual usage at any time they please! :wtf: :~ This has been bothering me for a while, so I decided to reply to the mail by clicking the "contact" link. I got a 404... "This [provider]-web-tst.azurewebsites.net page can’t be found" :sigh: Head over to their website, contact page, and find their chat is unavailable, but I also can't send an email during business hours because they want you to use chat :wtf: Does this even count as a single fail?

    Best, Sander Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

      So today I got an email from my gas and electricity company that they want to "do things differently." I don't know how people in other countries get billed, but over here you pay the same amount each month and once a year someone comes to check on your meter and what your actual usage was and you either get money back or have to pay extra. It's an archaic system and people fear the yearly end bill. Now, with the "new" system they want to give people a reminder to check their own meter every few months. Here's the good part though: lots of people, including myself, have "SMART" METERS! The company can read my actual usage at any time they please! :wtf: :~ This has been bothering me for a while, so I decided to reply to the mail by clicking the "contact" link. I got a 404... "This [provider]-web-tst.azurewebsites.net page can’t be found" :sigh: Head over to their website, contact page, and find their chat is unavailable, but I also can't send an email during business hours because they want you to use chat :wtf: Does this even count as a single fail?

      Best, Sander Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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      Lost User
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      you do realise they will sympathise with you and tell you your feedback is important, and then... do it their own way anyway. sometimes it is worth fighting the system, most of the time though: not.

      This internet thing is amazing! Letting people use it: worst idea ever!

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      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

        So today I got an email from my gas and electricity company that they want to "do things differently." I don't know how people in other countries get billed, but over here you pay the same amount each month and once a year someone comes to check on your meter and what your actual usage was and you either get money back or have to pay extra. It's an archaic system and people fear the yearly end bill. Now, with the "new" system they want to give people a reminder to check their own meter every few months. Here's the good part though: lots of people, including myself, have "SMART" METERS! The company can read my actual usage at any time they please! :wtf: :~ This has been bothering me for a while, so I decided to reply to the mail by clicking the "contact" link. I got a 404... "This [provider]-web-tst.azurewebsites.net page can’t be found" :sigh: Head over to their website, contact page, and find their chat is unavailable, but I also can't send an email during business hours because they want you to use chat :wtf: Does this even count as a single fail?

        Best, Sander Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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        raddevus
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        This is what Bill Gates and Elon Musk meant when they said that AI would destroy us all. AI will be programmed by these same people. :laugh:

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          This is what Bill Gates and Elon Musk meant when they said that AI would destroy us all. AI will be programmed by these same people. :laugh:

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          Sander Rossel
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          AI may well rescue us from Natural Stupidity! :laugh:

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            you do realise they will sympathise with you and tell you your feedback is important, and then... do it their own way anyway. sometimes it is worth fighting the system, most of the time though: not.

            This internet thing is amazing! Letting people use it: worst idea ever!

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            Sander Rossel
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            Yeah, probably. But now I have to know :)

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            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

              AI may well rescue us from Natural Stupidity! :laugh:

              Best, Sander Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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              raddevus
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              Sander Rossel wrote:

              AI may well rescue us from Natural Stupidity!

              It is more likely that "Natural Stupidity" will be codified into AI and the AI will find it to be the "best logical path" to a solution. Bureaucracy v2.0!! :rolleyes:

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              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                So today I got an email from my gas and electricity company that they want to "do things differently." I don't know how people in other countries get billed, but over here you pay the same amount each month and once a year someone comes to check on your meter and what your actual usage was and you either get money back or have to pay extra. It's an archaic system and people fear the yearly end bill. Now, with the "new" system they want to give people a reminder to check their own meter every few months. Here's the good part though: lots of people, including myself, have "SMART" METERS! The company can read my actual usage at any time they please! :wtf: :~ This has been bothering me for a while, so I decided to reply to the mail by clicking the "contact" link. I got a 404... "This [provider]-web-tst.azurewebsites.net page can’t be found" :sigh: Head over to their website, contact page, and find their chat is unavailable, but I also can't send an email during business hours because they want you to use chat :wtf: Does this even count as a single fail?

                Best, Sander Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                Seems to be common for electricity companies to fail with online services. My company stopped to send around people last year. Instead you get a snail mail once a year to enter the readings on a card. You can send the card back by snail mail (please place stamp if on hand), register and use the account to enter the data on a web form, or use an one time ID printed on the card to enter the data on a different form (URL to be entered manually or using a QR code). Used the one time ID last year and it worked after some tries. So guess what was not working this year: Tried to use the one time ID many times on subsequent days. Does not work too for family and friends. As a result, we all send them back the card - without stamp. Have not received the final bill one month later. They are probably still having people sitting there reading the cards and enter the readings into their system :-D

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                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                  So today I got an email from my gas and electricity company that they want to "do things differently." I don't know how people in other countries get billed, but over here you pay the same amount each month and once a year someone comes to check on your meter and what your actual usage was and you either get money back or have to pay extra. It's an archaic system and people fear the yearly end bill. Now, with the "new" system they want to give people a reminder to check their own meter every few months. Here's the good part though: lots of people, including myself, have "SMART" METERS! The company can read my actual usage at any time they please! :wtf: :~ This has been bothering me for a while, so I decided to reply to the mail by clicking the "contact" link. I got a 404... "This [provider]-web-tst.azurewebsites.net page can’t be found" :sigh: Head over to their website, contact page, and find their chat is unavailable, but I also can't send an email during business hours because they want you to use chat :wtf: Does this even count as a single fail?

                  Best, Sander Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                  The way the electricity meters are set up all that needs to change from measuring real power to measuring apparent power is to switch a bit (digit!) over. Your electricity bills goes up over night. The problem is there is no rule that says they have to charge 'real' power or 'apparent' power...A classic version of Technology moving faster than legislation.

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                    Seems to be common for electricity companies to fail with online services. My company stopped to send around people last year. Instead you get a snail mail once a year to enter the readings on a card. You can send the card back by snail mail (please place stamp if on hand), register and use the account to enter the data on a web form, or use an one time ID printed on the card to enter the data on a different form (URL to be entered manually or using a QR code). Used the one time ID last year and it worked after some tries. So guess what was not working this year: Tried to use the one time ID many times on subsequent days. Does not work too for family and friends. As a result, we all send them back the card - without stamp. Have not received the final bill one month later. They are probably still having people sitting there reading the cards and enter the readings into their system :-D

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                    Sander Rossel
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                    Jochen Arndt wrote:

                    My company stopped to send around people last year. Instead you get a snail mail once a year to enter the readings on a card.

                    Yeah, over here too! And I still get the card even though I have a smart meter. I once entered the data on their website only to get a snail mail back that I didn't have to do that because I had a smart meter :laugh: I say smart meter, DUMB company! :sigh:

                    Best, Sander Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                      So today I got an email from my gas and electricity company that they want to "do things differently." I don't know how people in other countries get billed, but over here you pay the same amount each month and once a year someone comes to check on your meter and what your actual usage was and you either get money back or have to pay extra. It's an archaic system and people fear the yearly end bill. Now, with the "new" system they want to give people a reminder to check their own meter every few months. Here's the good part though: lots of people, including myself, have "SMART" METERS! The company can read my actual usage at any time they please! :wtf: :~ This has been bothering me for a while, so I decided to reply to the mail by clicking the "contact" link. I got a 404... "This [provider]-web-tst.azurewebsites.net page can’t be found" :sigh: Head over to their website, contact page, and find their chat is unavailable, but I also can't send an email during business hours because they want you to use chat :wtf: Does this even count as a single fail?

                      Best, Sander Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                      RTek23
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                      Sander Rossel wrote:

                      [provider]-web-tst.azurewebsites.net

                      So, substitute web-test for web-tst and I think you have figured out what is wrong...this is only a test. :-D

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                      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                        So today I got an email from my gas and electricity company that they want to "do things differently." I don't know how people in other countries get billed, but over here you pay the same amount each month and once a year someone comes to check on your meter and what your actual usage was and you either get money back or have to pay extra. It's an archaic system and people fear the yearly end bill. Now, with the "new" system they want to give people a reminder to check their own meter every few months. Here's the good part though: lots of people, including myself, have "SMART" METERS! The company can read my actual usage at any time they please! :wtf: :~ This has been bothering me for a while, so I decided to reply to the mail by clicking the "contact" link. I got a 404... "This [provider]-web-tst.azurewebsites.net page can’t be found" :sigh: Head over to their website, contact page, and find their chat is unavailable, but I also can't send an email during business hours because they want you to use chat :wtf: Does this even count as a single fail?

                        Best, Sander Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                        They're a bit more thoughtful, here. You generally have two options: 1 - pay as you go (meters are readable remotely). 2 - budget-billing: 1/12 estimated usage/month with periodic corrections. For those who follow method 2 (such as myself, for both gas and electric), it works out rather well: comparatively uniform bills and periodic corrections attempting to reach a $0 year-end balance. If you get through the 404 error, you can tell 'em how we Yank's do it.

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                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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