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Arrogant or merely delusional?

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  • C Chris Maunder

    I made several thousand code changes over a couple of hundred files and I wholeheartedly believed all my unit tests would just work. I hate it when my serene view of reality doesn't align with what the rest of the world considers reasonable.

    cheers Chris Maunder

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    Lost User
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    Quote:

    Arrogant or merely delusional?

    The 2 are not mutually exclusive... ;)

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    • C Chris Maunder

      I made several thousand code changes over a couple of hundred files and I wholeheartedly believed all my unit tests would just work. I hate it when my serene view of reality doesn't align with what the rest of the world considers reasonable.

      cheers Chris Maunder

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      GKP1992
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      I did that the day before yesterday, made changes in about 120 files and committed. A few minutes later someone behind me is banging their head on the table why the page isn't working. Looked like I missed a few .cshtml references. But I think I'm just confident of my skills :-\

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      • D den2k88

        Optimistic.

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        Chris Maunder
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        Delusionally Optimistic. Is that a word?

        cheers Chris Maunder

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        • C Chris Maunder

          I made several thousand code changes over a couple of hundred files and I wholeheartedly believed all my unit tests would just work. I hate it when my serene view of reality doesn't align with what the rest of the world considers reasonable.

          cheers Chris Maunder

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          Mike Hankey
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          I'll go with delusional. :)

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          • G GKP1992

            I did that the day before yesterday, made changes in about 120 files and committed. A few minutes later someone behind me is banging their head on the table why the page isn't working. Looked like I missed a few .cshtml references. But I think I'm just confident of my skills :-\

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            Chris Maunder
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            GKP1992 wrote:

            made changes in about 120 files and committed

            See? That's how Real Programmers do it. Have a beer :beer:

            cheers Chris Maunder

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            • T theoldfool

              Just blame the closest, innocent, programmer. Works for me.

              If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.

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              :laugh:

              In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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              • C Chris Maunder

                I made several thousand code changes over a couple of hundred files and I wholeheartedly believed all my unit tests would just work. I hate it when my serene view of reality doesn't align with what the rest of the world considers reasonable.

                cheers Chris Maunder

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                CPallini
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                Apparently your files have too many lines of code.

                In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  Delusionally Optimistic. Is that a word?

                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                  Gary Wheeler
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                  That's probably a better state than being optimistically delusional.

                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                  • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                    I did it once for a name change. They wanted to rename an internal project, including filenames, strings, menus, resources, and everything else that had the old name. My project lead didn't think I'd get it to work on the first try. Glad I was able to prove him wrong.

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                    Gary Wheeler
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                    I did that once to change an upper case M to a lower case m in a product name, when the bastitches who requested the change were the ones who spelled it wrong in the first place.

                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      I made several thousand code changes over a couple of hundred files and I wholeheartedly believed all my unit tests would just work. I hate it when my serene view of reality doesn't align with what the rest of the world considers reasonable.

                      cheers Chris Maunder

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                      Lost User
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                      believe in yourself: as long as it compiles - surely your code must be ok. next step is delegation - get a junior to fix the tests [results].

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        I made several thousand code changes over a couple of hundred files and I wholeheartedly believed all my unit tests would just work. I hate it when my serene view of reality doesn't align with what the rest of the world considers reasonable.

                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                        My advice: avoid web development :-\

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                        • L Lost User

                          believe in yourself: as long as it compiles - surely your code must be ok. next step is delegation - get a junior to fix the tests [results].

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                          Lopatir wrote:

                          get a junior to fix the tests [results].

                          I believe you will find that most of those people are currently employed by BMW! :doh:

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                          • G Gary Wheeler

                            I did that once to change an upper case M to a lower case m in a product name, when the bastitches who requested the change were the ones who spelled it wrong in the first place.

                            Software Zen: delete this;

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                            Bassam Abdul Baki
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                            :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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                            • C Chris Maunder

                              I made several thousand code changes over a couple of hundred files and I wholeheartedly believed all my unit tests would just work. I hate it when my serene view of reality doesn't align with what the rest of the world considers reasonable.

                              cheers Chris Maunder

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                              Marc Clifton
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                              Chris Maunder wrote:

                              when my serene view of reality doesn't align with what the rest of the world considers reasonable.

                              That's my normal state. However, I've come to realize that what the rest of the world considers reasonable is actually quite unreasonable.

                              Chris Maunder wrote:

                              all my unit tests would just work

                              But that's what unit tests are for -to destroy your serene view of reality. You should be celebrating!

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                              • C Chris Maunder

                                I made several thousand code changes over a couple of hundred files and I wholeheartedly believed all my unit tests would just work. I hate it when my serene view of reality doesn't align with what the rest of the world considers reasonable.

                                cheers Chris Maunder

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                                MarkTJohnson
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                                Unit test? Isn't that what production is for?

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                                • C Chris Maunder

                                  I made several thousand code changes over a couple of hundred files and I wholeheartedly believed all my unit tests would just work. I hate it when my serene view of reality doesn't align with what the rest of the world considers reasonable.

                                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                                  Maximilien
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                                  obligatory Star Trek reference: [...maybe there's something wrong with the universe - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek23bXq23pY)

                                  I'd rather be phishing!

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                                    obligatory Star Trek reference: [...maybe there's something wrong with the universe - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek23bXq23pY)

                                    I'd rather be phishing!

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                                    Daniel Pfeffer
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                                    Quote:

                                    The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, But in ourselves, that we are underlings.

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                                    • C Chris Maunder

                                      I made several thousand code changes over a couple of hundred files and I wholeheartedly believed all my unit tests would just work. I hate it when my serene view of reality doesn't align with what the rest of the world considers reasonable.

                                      cheers Chris Maunder

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                                      John R Shaw
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                                      The difference between arrogant and confident is success. So, I guess over confidence could be labeled as arrogance. ;) I once inherited a C code base and discovered, to my surprise, that most of the functions declared an 'int' return type, but there were no return statements for success. :wtf: A successful result would have been whatever happen to be in the AX register after the call was complete. The compiler was not happy and generated lots of warnings. :( I went through an uncounted number of functions and added the return statements. The compiler was very happy, no errors or warnings. :) But, the code would no longer work. :doh: I decided that I had more import things to do than fix code that worked, so I dropped the whole idea and lived with the warnings. :-O Besides, 80 percent of the time they were not checking the return type any way. :sigh:

                                      INTP "Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence." - Edsger Dijkstra "I have never been lost, but I will admit to being confused for several weeks. " - Daniel Boone

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                                        The difference between arrogant and confident is success. So, I guess over confidence could be labeled as arrogance. ;) I once inherited a C code base and discovered, to my surprise, that most of the functions declared an 'int' return type, but there were no return statements for success. :wtf: A successful result would have been whatever happen to be in the AX register after the call was complete. The compiler was not happy and generated lots of warnings. :( I went through an uncounted number of functions and added the return statements. The compiler was very happy, no errors or warnings. :) But, the code would no longer work. :doh: I decided that I had more import things to do than fix code that worked, so I dropped the whole idea and lived with the warnings. :-O Besides, 80 percent of the time they were not checking the return type any way. :sigh:

                                        INTP "Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence." - Edsger Dijkstra "I have never been lost, but I will admit to being confused for several weeks. " - Daniel Boone

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                                        CPallini
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                                        I once inherited a C code base and discovered, to my surprise, that most of the functions declared an 'int' return type, but there were no return statements for success.

                                        Please don't tell me that. It's an abomination. I cannot believe a C programmer could have done such a thing. :omg:

                                        In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                                        • C Chris Maunder

                                          I made several thousand code changes over a couple of hundred files and I wholeheartedly believed all my unit tests would just work. I hate it when my serene view of reality doesn't align with what the rest of the world considers reasonable.

                                          cheers Chris Maunder

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                                          Sander Rossel
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                                          Chris Maunder wrote:

                                          what the rest of the world considers reasonable

                                          The rest of the world isn't always right. A lot of great inventors were called arrogant, delusional, and even mad, yet they invented airplanes, discovered America, discovered that the earth was round and that the sun was the center of the galaxy... You, however, might just need another coffee to clear your head ;p

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