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  • C Chris Maunder

    Delusionally Optimistic. Is that a word?

    cheers Chris Maunder

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    Gary Wheeler
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    That's probably a better state than being optimistically delusional.

    Software Zen: delete this;

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    • B Bassam Abdul Baki

      I did it once for a name change. They wanted to rename an internal project, including filenames, strings, menus, resources, and everything else that had the old name. My project lead didn't think I'd get it to work on the first try. Glad I was able to prove him wrong.

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      Gary Wheeler
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      I did that once to change an upper case M to a lower case m in a product name, when the bastitches who requested the change were the ones who spelled it wrong in the first place.

      Software Zen: delete this;

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      • C Chris Maunder

        I made several thousand code changes over a couple of hundred files and I wholeheartedly believed all my unit tests would just work. I hate it when my serene view of reality doesn't align with what the rest of the world considers reasonable.

        cheers Chris Maunder

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        Lost User
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        believe in yourself: as long as it compiles - surely your code must be ok. next step is delegation - get a junior to fix the tests [results].

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        • C Chris Maunder

          I made several thousand code changes over a couple of hundred files and I wholeheartedly believed all my unit tests would just work. I hate it when my serene view of reality doesn't align with what the rest of the world considers reasonable.

          cheers Chris Maunder

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          RickZeeland
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          My advice: avoid web development :-\

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            believe in yourself: as long as it compiles - surely your code must be ok. next step is delegation - get a junior to fix the tests [results].

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            Johnny J
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            Lopatir wrote:

            get a junior to fix the tests [results].

            I believe you will find that most of those people are currently employed by BMW! :doh:

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            • G Gary Wheeler

              I did that once to change an upper case M to a lower case m in a product name, when the bastitches who requested the change were the ones who spelled it wrong in the first place.

              Software Zen: delete this;

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              Bassam Abdul Baki
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              :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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              • C Chris Maunder

                I made several thousand code changes over a couple of hundred files and I wholeheartedly believed all my unit tests would just work. I hate it when my serene view of reality doesn't align with what the rest of the world considers reasonable.

                cheers Chris Maunder

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                Marc Clifton
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                Chris Maunder wrote:

                when my serene view of reality doesn't align with what the rest of the world considers reasonable.

                That's my normal state. However, I've come to realize that what the rest of the world considers reasonable is actually quite unreasonable.

                Chris Maunder wrote:

                all my unit tests would just work

                But that's what unit tests are for -to destroy your serene view of reality. You should be celebrating!

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  I made several thousand code changes over a couple of hundred files and I wholeheartedly believed all my unit tests would just work. I hate it when my serene view of reality doesn't align with what the rest of the world considers reasonable.

                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                  MarkTJohnson
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                  Unit test? Isn't that what production is for?

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                  • C Chris Maunder

                    I made several thousand code changes over a couple of hundred files and I wholeheartedly believed all my unit tests would just work. I hate it when my serene view of reality doesn't align with what the rest of the world considers reasonable.

                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                    Maximilien
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                    obligatory Star Trek reference: [...maybe there's something wrong with the universe - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek23bXq23pY)

                    I'd rather be phishing!

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                    • M Maximilien

                      obligatory Star Trek reference: [...maybe there's something wrong with the universe - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek23bXq23pY)

                      I'd rather be phishing!

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                      Daniel Pfeffer
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                      Quote:

                      The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, But in ourselves, that we are underlings.

                      Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        I made several thousand code changes over a couple of hundred files and I wholeheartedly believed all my unit tests would just work. I hate it when my serene view of reality doesn't align with what the rest of the world considers reasonable.

                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                        John R Shaw
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                        The difference between arrogant and confident is success. So, I guess over confidence could be labeled as arrogance. ;) I once inherited a C code base and discovered, to my surprise, that most of the functions declared an 'int' return type, but there were no return statements for success. :wtf: A successful result would have been whatever happen to be in the AX register after the call was complete. The compiler was not happy and generated lots of warnings. :( I went through an uncounted number of functions and added the return statements. The compiler was very happy, no errors or warnings. :) But, the code would no longer work. :doh: I decided that I had more import things to do than fix code that worked, so I dropped the whole idea and lived with the warnings. :-O Besides, 80 percent of the time they were not checking the return type any way. :sigh:

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                        • J John R Shaw

                          The difference between arrogant and confident is success. So, I guess over confidence could be labeled as arrogance. ;) I once inherited a C code base and discovered, to my surprise, that most of the functions declared an 'int' return type, but there were no return statements for success. :wtf: A successful result would have been whatever happen to be in the AX register after the call was complete. The compiler was not happy and generated lots of warnings. :( I went through an uncounted number of functions and added the return statements. The compiler was very happy, no errors or warnings. :) But, the code would no longer work. :doh: I decided that I had more import things to do than fix code that worked, so I dropped the whole idea and lived with the warnings. :-O Besides, 80 percent of the time they were not checking the return type any way. :sigh:

                          INTP "Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence." - Edsger Dijkstra "I have never been lost, but I will admit to being confused for several weeks. " - Daniel Boone

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                          I once inherited a C code base and discovered, to my surprise, that most of the functions declared an 'int' return type, but there were no return statements for success.

                          Please don't tell me that. It's an abomination. I cannot believe a C programmer could have done such a thing. :omg:

                          In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                          • C Chris Maunder

                            I made several thousand code changes over a couple of hundred files and I wholeheartedly believed all my unit tests would just work. I hate it when my serene view of reality doesn't align with what the rest of the world considers reasonable.

                            cheers Chris Maunder

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                            Sander Rossel
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                            Chris Maunder wrote:

                            what the rest of the world considers reasonable

                            The rest of the world isn't always right. A lot of great inventors were called arrogant, delusional, and even mad, yet they invented airplanes, discovered America, discovered that the earth was round and that the sun was the center of the galaxy... You, however, might just need another coffee to clear your head ;p

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                            • C Chris Maunder

                              I made several thousand code changes over a couple of hundred files and I wholeheartedly believed all my unit tests would just work. I hate it when my serene view of reality doesn't align with what the rest of the world considers reasonable.

                              cheers Chris Maunder

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                              kmoorevs
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                              Maybe just feeling lucky! :laugh: It's a nice challenge isn't it? It's either a fist pump or a quick swearing fit followed by bug hunting, usually followed by more swearing fits and disbelief that I could have made such stupid mistakes/overlooked the obvious. I'll settle for lots of little victories! :laugh:

                              "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                              • C Chris Maunder

                                I made several thousand code changes over a couple of hundred files and I wholeheartedly believed all my unit tests would just work. I hate it when my serene view of reality doesn't align with what the rest of the world considers reasonable.

                                cheers Chris Maunder

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                                GuyThiebaut
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                                Unit tests - pffff ;P The only unit tests I have are the end users droids units who test my code.

                                “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                                ― Christopher Hitchens

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                                • C Chris Maunder

                                  I made several thousand code changes over a couple of hundred files and I wholeheartedly believed all my unit tests would just work. I hate it when my serene view of reality doesn't align with what the rest of the world considers reasonable.

                                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                                  Johnny J
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                                  The solution to all of your problems![^] :doh:

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                                  • C Chris Maunder

                                    I made several thousand code changes over a couple of hundred files and I wholeheartedly believed all my unit tests would just work. I hate it when my serene view of reality doesn't align with what the rest of the world considers reasonable.

                                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                                    Kirill Illenseer
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                                    Hey, I weekly change stuff according to my client's wishes, every time believing that when I fulfil said wishes, I can finally draw a line under the particular work package, only to find my client to have more wishes.

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                                    • W W Balboos GHB

                                      Chris Maunder wrote:

                                      I wholeheartedly believed all my unit tests would just work.

                                      You forgot to take into consideration that they were French unit tests - and as usual, they were on strike.

                                      Ravings en masse^

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                                      Rage
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                                      We French unit tests merely rose a (white) flag here.

                                      Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                                      • C Chris Maunder

                                        I made several thousand code changes over a couple of hundred files and I wholeheartedly believed all my unit tests would just work. I hate it when my serene view of reality doesn't align with what the rest of the world considers reasonable.

                                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                                        agolddog
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                                        On the plus side, that's what unit tests are for, right?

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                                        • C Chris Maunder

                                          I made several thousand code changes over a couple of hundred files and I wholeheartedly believed all my unit tests would just work. I hate it when my serene view of reality doesn't align with what the rest of the world considers reasonable.

                                          cheers Chris Maunder

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                                          Kirk 10389821
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                                          I would suggest: Misplaced Optimism... Has this EVER Worked this way? Consistently? While the wife is trying to make sure you get home in time for those Dinner Plans? (LOL, that ALWAYS breaks a build!)

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