His Master's Voice
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So - Erdogan made the demand Putin gave his nod of approval. Trump Obeys: **Abandon the brave Kurds to Turkish genocide.
**"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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So - Erdogan made the demand Putin gave his nod of approval. Trump Obeys: **Abandon the brave Kurds to Turkish genocide.
**"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
Wasn't that one of his campaign-promises? That's a going to set a dangerous precedent, politicians that keep a promise - seeing is believing.
W∴ Balboos wrote:
Abandon the brave Kurds to Turkish genocide.
If you're not confused by the world, you did not pay attention. The Kurds are NATO-allies, as are the Turks. Does that mean we're financing both sides? No wonder ISIS stopped existing, they're probably feeling ignored by the allies.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Wasn't that one of his campaign-promises? That's a going to set a dangerous precedent, politicians that keep a promise - seeing is believing.
W∴ Balboos wrote:
Abandon the brave Kurds to Turkish genocide.
If you're not confused by the world, you did not pay attention. The Kurds are NATO-allies, as are the Turks. Does that mean we're financing both sides? No wonder ISIS stopped existing, they're probably feeling ignored by the allies.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
Hump admires dictators. (In fact, his facial gestures and stance are so much Mussolini it's actually funny.) He promised Mexico would pay for the wall. How'd that work out? He promised to clean up the swamp - and put in a cesspool. The Kurds are Erdogan's local "them" enemy. Distract the people from him finishing the formation of the "Turkish Reich". He began his murdering the innocent by bombing the Kurds living in Turkey because ISIS set off a bomb and killed Turks. Any excuse to violate a cease fire. Turkey is in NATO. On the other hand, the Kurds are our allies. And I do differentiate between the two. We can only pray that Hump has a stroke - very severe and very soon.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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So - Erdogan made the demand Putin gave his nod of approval. Trump Obeys: **Abandon the brave Kurds to Turkish genocide.
**"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
Erdogan has demanded that for very long, so has Putin. So what has changed? Hint: As usual, follow the money
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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Hump admires dictators. (In fact, his facial gestures and stance are so much Mussolini it's actually funny.) He promised Mexico would pay for the wall. How'd that work out? He promised to clean up the swamp - and put in a cesspool. The Kurds are Erdogan's local "them" enemy. Distract the people from him finishing the formation of the "Turkish Reich". He began his murdering the innocent by bombing the Kurds living in Turkey because ISIS set off a bomb and killed Turks. Any excuse to violate a cease fire. Turkey is in NATO. On the other hand, the Kurds are our allies. And I do differentiate between the two. We can only pray that Hump has a stroke - very severe and very soon.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
W∴ Balboos wrote:
Hump admires dictators.
So do I - gives the populace a clear target to hold accountable. Think of Terry's "Patrician", and it makes more sense.
W∴ Balboos wrote:
(In fact, his facial gestures and stance are so much Mussolini it's actually funny.)
Looked it up on youtube, and you only have to imagine the hair. That was weird, thanks for the laugh :D
W∴ Balboos wrote:
He promised Mexico would pay for the wall. How'd that work out? He promised to clean up the swamp - and put in a cesspool.
So, how much probability that he will keep this promise?
W∴ Balboos wrote:
Turkey is in NATO. On the other hand, the Kurds are our allies. And I do differentiate between the two.
So does the Dutch government; but not a word on what happens if a Dutchie (or an American) get caught between the Turks and Kurds. Whom do we help? Our allies, or our allies?
W∴ Balboos wrote:
We can only pray that Hump has a stroke - very severe and very soon.
I hope he remains a bit, and that it will convince the Americans to choose very, very carefully and wisely next time. A janitor who doesn't like politics would be a good starting point.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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So - Erdogan made the demand Putin gave his nod of approval. Trump Obeys: **Abandon the brave Kurds to Turkish genocide.
**"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
ISIS are finished, so why have US troops there? The Kurds are a different discussion, heck, even the Iraqi Kurds dont like the Syrian ones!
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ISIS are finished, so why have US troops there? The Kurds are a different discussion, heck, even the Iraqi Kurds dont like the Syrian ones!
Munchies_Matt wrote:
ISIS are finished,
If you believe that, that makes two of you.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
so why have US troops there?
Preventing a Turkish genocide - unless the Russians get there first.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
ISIS are finished,
If you believe that, that makes two of you.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
so why have US troops there?
Preventing a Turkish genocide - unless the Russians get there first.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
ISIS is done. Why is it the US fault? Why dont you send in your army and deal with it if you feel so strongly about it? Ah, but of course not, it is the USs fault isnt it, because, well it is the US, and continentals just love bashing the US. Just grow a pair as big as they have and take up the reins eh? I am tied of this whining noise.
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ISIS is done. Why is it the US fault? Why dont you send in your army and deal with it if you feel so strongly about it? Ah, but of course not, it is the USs fault isnt it, because, well it is the US, and continentals just love bashing the US. Just grow a pair as big as they have and take up the reins eh? I am tied of this whining noise.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
nd continentals just love bashing the US.
Just the chronically impotent 'continentals'. If you really want to consider Europe a continent to begin with. It's just the west end of Asia. There's always the other option: send in a massive French Expeditionary Force so they can surrender to the first villager they come across.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
nd continentals just love bashing the US.
Just the chronically impotent 'continentals'. If you really want to consider Europe a continent to begin with. It's just the west end of Asia. There's always the other option: send in a massive French Expeditionary Force so they can surrender to the first villager they come across.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
Sorry for my previous rant, you set me off on one. Look, I know Germany is terrified of being a military power, but don't dump the job of being the worlds policemen on the US. The UN is totally gutless, look at their behaviour in Bosnia and Ruanda, if you think the Kurds need protecting get over your past and send your troops in.
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Sorry for my previous rant, you set me off on one. Look, I know Germany is terrified of being a military power, but don't dump the job of being the worlds policemen on the US. The UN is totally gutless, look at their behaviour in Bosnia and Ruanda, if you think the Kurds need protecting get over your past and send your troops in.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
Look, I know Germany is terrified of being a military power, but don't dump the job of being the worlds policemen on the US.
Although totally mishandled, it's one of the things Humps getting right (or could have). He worries about the cost but I worry about the blood. And who want's their kid to come home in a flag-draped box? Germans are rather good at war - it takes orderly methodical thinking. Just an thought: if the Germans expanded to outward adventures, would not the rest of Europe try to use them as, well, a surrogate for US? Just a thought. And, of course, there's the proposals for an EU army. Do we laugh or cry?
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
Look, I know Germany is terrified of being a military power, but don't dump the job of being the worlds policemen on the US.
Although totally mishandled, it's one of the things Humps getting right (or could have). He worries about the cost but I worry about the blood. And who want's their kid to come home in a flag-draped box? Germans are rather good at war - it takes orderly methodical thinking. Just an thought: if the Germans expanded to outward adventures, would not the rest of Europe try to use them as, well, a surrogate for US? Just a thought. And, of course, there's the proposals for an EU army. Do we laugh or cry?
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
A surrogate for blame, or a surrogate to ride on, in terms of giving global security? An EU army? Just another toy of the Eurocrats and their increasing federalisation. I doubt there would be any agreement about where to use it, unless it ended up UN style, in which case utterly useless.
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A surrogate for blame, or a surrogate to ride on, in terms of giving global security? An EU army? Just another toy of the Eurocrats and their increasing federalisation. I doubt there would be any agreement about where to use it, unless it ended up UN style, in which case utterly useless.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
A surrogate for blame, or a surrogate to ride on, in terms of giving global security?
To ride on. I've been rather annoyed when there's a crisis and "the world" wants to to what the US will do about it. Clearly you've observed the same. If the opportunity arises for someone else to pay and bleed, you can be sure it will be taken advantage of. Everyone want's to "Bell the Cat" as long as someone else does it.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
A surrogate for blame, or a surrogate to ride on, in terms of giving global security?
To ride on. I've been rather annoyed when there's a crisis and "the world" wants to to what the US will do about it. Clearly you've observed the same. If the opportunity arises for someone else to pay and bleed, you can be sure it will be taken advantage of. Everyone want's to "Bell the Cat" as long as someone else does it.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
Yeah, and then they criticise the US for pulling out. I would like to see the UN actually do something useful instead of just pay themselves a lot (tax free of course) and do a great deal of talking, but fat chance of that.
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ISIS are finished, so why have US troops there? The Kurds are a different discussion, heck, even the Iraqi Kurds dont like the Syrian ones!
Munchies_Matt wrote:
ISIS are finished, so why have US troops there?
December 19, 2018 - US President Donald Trump sets the stage for a rapid withdrawal of American troops from Syria with a tweet falsely claiming that ISIS has been defeated.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
ISIS are finished, so why have US troops there?
December 19, 2018 - US President Donald Trump sets the stage for a rapid withdrawal of American troops from Syria with a tweet falsely claiming that ISIS has been defeated.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
So CNN doesnt think ISIS are finished. Wow. They dont hold any towns as far as I know, Raqa their HQ has been overrun, they are a spent force except for a few nutters left in the desert hiding.
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So CNN doesnt think ISIS are finished. Wow. They dont hold any towns as far as I know, Raqa their HQ has been overrun, they are a spent force except for a few nutters left in the desert hiding.
Not just CNN, but Trump declared it so, and so it must be true :) --edit Didn't he declare the same thing a year ago?
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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So - Erdogan made the demand Putin gave his nod of approval. Trump Obeys: **Abandon the brave Kurds to Turkish genocide.
**"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
W∴ Balboos wrote:
Erdogan made the demand
It looks like you've got a good point. Turkey primed to start offensive against US-backed Kurds in Syria | World news | The Guardian[^] :thumbsup:
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Not just CNN, but Trump declared it so, and so it must be true :) --edit Didn't he declare the same thing a year ago?
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
They dont hold any towns as far as I know, Raqa their HQ has been overrun, they are a spent force except for a few nutters left in the desert hiding.
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W∴ Balboos wrote:
Erdogan made the demand
It looks like you've got a good point. Turkey primed to start offensive against US-backed Kurds in Syria | World news | The Guardian[^] :thumbsup:
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
The Kurds have been good allies - in fact, for that region of the world, exceptional allies. If Hump had a pair he'd just announce that "our troops are staying and any fire which we feel endangers them will result in swift and aggressive retaliation until we determine the threat has been neutralized."
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010