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  • W W Balboos GHB

    So - Erdogan made the demand Putin gave his nod of approval. Trump Obeys: **Abandon the brave Kurds to Turkish genocide.
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    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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    ISIS are finished, so why have US troops there? The Kurds are a different discussion, heck, even the Iraqi Kurds dont like the Syrian ones!

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      ISIS are finished, so why have US troops there? The Kurds are a different discussion, heck, even the Iraqi Kurds dont like the Syrian ones!

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      W Balboos GHB
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      Munchies_Matt wrote:

      ISIS are finished,

      If you believe that, that makes two of you.

      Munchies_Matt wrote:

      so why have US troops there?

      Preventing a Turkish genocide - unless the Russians get there first.

      Ravings en masse^

      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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      • W W Balboos GHB

        Munchies_Matt wrote:

        ISIS are finished,

        If you believe that, that makes two of you.

        Munchies_Matt wrote:

        so why have US troops there?

        Preventing a Turkish genocide - unless the Russians get there first.

        Ravings en masse^

        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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        ISIS is done. Why is it the US fault? Why dont you send in your army and deal with it if you feel so strongly about it? Ah, but of course not, it is the USs fault isnt it, because, well it is the US, and continentals just love bashing the US. Just grow a pair as big as they have and take up the reins eh? I am tied of this whining noise.

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          ISIS is done. Why is it the US fault? Why dont you send in your army and deal with it if you feel so strongly about it? Ah, but of course not, it is the USs fault isnt it, because, well it is the US, and continentals just love bashing the US. Just grow a pair as big as they have and take up the reins eh? I am tied of this whining noise.

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          W Balboos GHB
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          Munchies_Matt wrote:

          nd continentals just love bashing the US.

          Just the chronically impotent 'continentals'. If you really want to consider Europe a continent to begin with. It's just the west end of Asia. There's always the other option: send in a massive French Expeditionary Force so they can surrender to the first villager they come across.

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          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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            Munchies_Matt wrote:

            nd continentals just love bashing the US.

            Just the chronically impotent 'continentals'. If you really want to consider Europe a continent to begin with. It's just the west end of Asia. There's always the other option: send in a massive French Expeditionary Force so they can surrender to the first villager they come across.

            Ravings en masse^

            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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            Munchies_Matt
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            Sorry for my previous rant, you set me off on one. Look, I know Germany is terrified of being a military power, but don't dump the job of being the worlds policemen on the US. The UN is totally gutless, look at their behaviour in Bosnia and Ruanda, if you think the Kurds need protecting get over your past and send your troops in.

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              Sorry for my previous rant, you set me off on one. Look, I know Germany is terrified of being a military power, but don't dump the job of being the worlds policemen on the US. The UN is totally gutless, look at their behaviour in Bosnia and Ruanda, if you think the Kurds need protecting get over your past and send your troops in.

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              W Balboos GHB
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              Munchies_Matt wrote:

              Look, I know Germany is terrified of being a military power, but don't dump the job of being the worlds policemen on the US.

              Although totally mishandled, it's one of the things Humps getting right (or could have). He worries about the cost but I worry about the blood. And who want's their kid to come home in a flag-draped box? Germans are rather good at war - it takes orderly methodical thinking. Just an thought: if the Germans expanded to outward adventures, would not the rest of Europe try to use them as, well, a surrogate for US? Just a thought. And, of course, there's the proposals for an EU army. Do we laugh or cry?

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              "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

              "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                Munchies_Matt wrote:

                Look, I know Germany is terrified of being a military power, but don't dump the job of being the worlds policemen on the US.

                Although totally mishandled, it's one of the things Humps getting right (or could have). He worries about the cost but I worry about the blood. And who want's their kid to come home in a flag-draped box? Germans are rather good at war - it takes orderly methodical thinking. Just an thought: if the Germans expanded to outward adventures, would not the rest of Europe try to use them as, well, a surrogate for US? Just a thought. And, of course, there's the proposals for an EU army. Do we laugh or cry?

                Ravings en masse^

                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                A surrogate for blame, or a surrogate to ride on, in terms of giving global security? An EU army? Just another toy of the Eurocrats and their increasing federalisation. I doubt there would be any agreement about where to use it, unless it ended up UN style, in which case utterly useless.

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                  A surrogate for blame, or a surrogate to ride on, in terms of giving global security? An EU army? Just another toy of the Eurocrats and their increasing federalisation. I doubt there would be any agreement about where to use it, unless it ended up UN style, in which case utterly useless.

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                  W Balboos GHB
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                  Munchies_Matt wrote:

                  A surrogate for blame, or a surrogate to ride on, in terms of giving global security?

                  To ride on. I've been rather annoyed when there's a crisis and "the world" wants to to what the US will do about it. Clearly you've observed the same. If the opportunity arises for someone else to pay and bleed, you can be sure it will be taken advantage of. Everyone want's to "Bell the Cat" as long as someone else does it.

                  Ravings en masse^

                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                    Munchies_Matt wrote:

                    A surrogate for blame, or a surrogate to ride on, in terms of giving global security?

                    To ride on. I've been rather annoyed when there's a crisis and "the world" wants to to what the US will do about it. Clearly you've observed the same. If the opportunity arises for someone else to pay and bleed, you can be sure it will be taken advantage of. Everyone want's to "Bell the Cat" as long as someone else does it.

                    Ravings en masse^

                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                    Yeah, and then they criticise the US for pulling out. I would like to see the UN actually do something useful instead of just pay themselves a lot (tax free of course) and do a great deal of talking, but fat chance of that.

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                    • M Munchies_Matt

                      ISIS are finished, so why have US troops there? The Kurds are a different discussion, heck, even the Iraqi Kurds dont like the Syrian ones!

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                      Munchies_Matt wrote:

                      ISIS are finished, so why have US troops there?

                      CNN[^] wrote:

                      December 19, 2018 - US President Donald Trump sets the stage for a rapid withdrawal of American troops from Syria with a tweet falsely claiming that ISIS has been defeated.

                      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                        Munchies_Matt wrote:

                        ISIS are finished, so why have US troops there?

                        CNN[^] wrote:

                        December 19, 2018 - US President Donald Trump sets the stage for a rapid withdrawal of American troops from Syria with a tweet falsely claiming that ISIS has been defeated.

                        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                        So CNN doesnt think ISIS are finished. Wow. They dont hold any towns as far as I know, Raqa their HQ has been overrun, they are a spent force except for a few nutters left in the desert hiding.

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                          So CNN doesnt think ISIS are finished. Wow. They dont hold any towns as far as I know, Raqa their HQ has been overrun, they are a spent force except for a few nutters left in the desert hiding.

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                          Not just CNN, but Trump declared it so, and so it must be true :) --edit Didn't he declare the same thing a year ago?

                          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                          • W W Balboos GHB

                            So - Erdogan made the demand Putin gave his nod of approval. Trump Obeys: **Abandon the brave Kurds to Turkish genocide.
                            **

                            Ravings en masse^

                            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                            W∴ Balboos wrote:

                            Erdogan made the demand

                            It looks like you've got a good point. Turkey primed to start offensive against US-backed Kurds in Syria | World news | The Guardian[^] :thumbsup:

                            Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                              Not just CNN, but Trump declared it so, and so it must be true :) --edit Didn't he declare the same thing a year ago?

                              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                              They dont hold any towns as far as I know, Raqa their HQ has been overrun, they are a spent force except for a few nutters left in the desert hiding.

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                                W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                Erdogan made the demand

                                It looks like you've got a good point. Turkey primed to start offensive against US-backed Kurds in Syria | World news | The Guardian[^] :thumbsup:

                                Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                W Balboos GHB
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                                The Kurds have been good allies - in fact, for that region of the world, exceptional allies. If Hump had a pair he'd just announce that "our troops are staying and any fire which we feel endangers them will result in swift and aggressive retaliation until we determine the threat has been neutralized."

                                Ravings en masse^

                                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                • W W Balboos GHB

                                  So - Erdogan made the demand Putin gave his nod of approval. Trump Obeys: **Abandon the brave Kurds to Turkish genocide.
                                  **

                                  Ravings en masse^

                                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                  Obama had the same desires and policy as Trump does on Syria, almost identical. Blow your Trump bashing out of your uneducated ass. Trump and Obama may be complete opposites — but their Syria policies are nearly identical - U.S. News - Haaretz.com[^]

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                                  • W W Balboos GHB

                                    So - Erdogan made the demand Putin gave his nod of approval. Trump Obeys: **Abandon the brave Kurds to Turkish genocide.
                                    **

                                    Ravings en masse^

                                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                    I think the same happened in Iraq some time ago, when the US abandoned them and they got gassed or something like that by Saddam. You think US allies would learn from these things. :)

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                                      Obama had the same desires and policy as Trump does on Syria, almost identical. Blow your Trump bashing out of your uneducated ass. Trump and Obama may be complete opposites — but their Syria policies are nearly identical - U.S. News - Haaretz.com[^]

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                                      W Balboos GHB
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                                      So let's get some perspective here: Erdogan demanded Hump remove them and he promptly obeys his master. Face it - your brain-dead god in the white house is just an obedient serf. The mass murder that's already being threatened will be on his head - but he couldn't give two shits. Don't play the Obama game - it's Humps doing and Humps timing. Post as much weasel sleaze as you like, he's a pyrrhia and embarrassment to his species - whatever the fuck that is. And you - keep on covering for him (at least in your own head) because it's either that or admit he made the fool of you becaise, well, that he did make of you.

                                      Ravings en masse^

                                      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                        I think the same happened in Iraq some time ago, when the US abandoned them and they got gassed or something like that by Saddam. You think US allies would learn from these things. :)

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                                        W Balboos GHB
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                                        If I recall, they began their ethnic wars with Obama's move. There's a real difference here: 1) outside party demands US leave so they can attack an ally* 2) hump agrees to cut and runs right after the threat 3) threat escalates to genocidal level * a for-real ally, not like the Iraqis or Afganis. But you're quite right - between Hump and Obama, only a jerk would put their lives in our hands. Or, with the Hump brand on the country, who'd make any kind of treaty, agreement, or anything else? He's a cancer.

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                                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                        • W W Balboos GHB

                                          So let's get some perspective here: Erdogan demanded Hump remove them and he promptly obeys his master. Face it - your brain-dead god in the white house is just an obedient serf. The mass murder that's already being threatened will be on his head - but he couldn't give two shits. Don't play the Obama game - it's Humps doing and Humps timing. Post as much weasel sleaze as you like, he's a pyrrhia and embarrassment to his species - whatever the fuck that is. And you - keep on covering for him (at least in your own head) because it's either that or admit he made the fool of you becaise, well, that he did make of you.

                                          Ravings en masse^

                                          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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