What happened to engineering?
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I kinda know what you mean, but ... my suspicion is that it's the "software engineering" side of new devices that lets down the hardware engineer side. A sous vide I bought, with WiFi and BlueTooth. That works wonderfully, if you ignore the WiFi and bluetooth (and definitely the app that comes with it) I don't own a GPS watch, or even a smart watch: mine has hands, is made of titanium, and was a gift last century! Vacuum cleaners ... blame the EU, I do. I have a "old" 2200W mains machine which works, even on cat hair. Modern ones ... the EU cut the max power in two stages to 900W and they suck. In both senses. They are rechargeable mostly because the manufacturers needed to find something to sell them on, since "actually cleaning" was no longer an option.
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It really isn't so much about the power as you might think. It's all about air flow. It's a bit like with amplifiers. Twice the power only gives 3db more sound And modern vacuums simply are to small to have a proper airflow. If you have the space you should buy one of these[^]. They never were more than 1000w but they will last you your lifetime.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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don't be so harsh, you know there are some quality goods out of china, but out the back door of the same factory are all the below/failed spec "same same, we only change name" versions of the identical product. (they can do quality, just that their pass yields are still not good.)
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You're the one that filled in the dots. :) But generally it's a question about getting what you pay for.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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You're the one that filled in the dots. :) But generally it's a question about getting what you pay for.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
Not in my experience. The Garmin forerunner 310xt for instance, it is a very precise device. I've extensively tested it (my running companion since 2012). The Garmin fenix 5 (far more expensive than the forerunner) might be a cool smartwatch but is a completely failure for thge runner. The distance mesurment error of 5% I experienced (meaning about 2 km in marathon) is inacceptable.
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How many Ampere does Java deliver? :-D
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
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Not in my experience. The Garmin forerunner 310xt for instance, it is a very precise device. I've extensively tested it (my running companion since 2012). The Garmin fenix 5 (far more expensive than the forerunner) might be a cool smartwatch but is a completely failure for thge runner. The distance mesurment error of 5% I experienced (meaning about 2 km in marathon) is inacceptable.
Sounds like you're not having it in gps-mode. How long does the batteries last?
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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Sounds like you're not having it in gps-mode. How long does the batteries last?
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
Of course the GPS is ON (and 'ready') while I am running. The tracks are actually fairly accurate, but the distance measurment is poor. The batteries performace is within the specifications as far as I can say (I didn't focus my attention on such an aspect, yet).
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Not software engineering, the real one. Software engineering used to compare with the latter like astrology compares with astrophysics. But now? In my bitter experience, many brand new products doesn't work properly from the very start. I'll name few examples: a GPS watch, a blood pressure monitor, a TV soundbar, even a vacuum cleaner. On the other side, my Windows 8 never crashes, seldom hangs. Are engineers, collectively, on sabbatic leave?
Managers.
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Of course the GPS is ON (and 'ready') while I am running. The tracks are actually fairly accurate, but the distance measurment is poor. The batteries performace is within the specifications as far as I can say (I didn't focus my attention on such an aspect, yet).
Had to ask. A guy at a previous job was running in battery save mode for half a year before realizing why the gps was all over the map. Is i always showing a too large distance by any chance?
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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Not software engineering, the real one. Software engineering used to compare with the latter like astrology compares with astrophysics. But now? In my bitter experience, many brand new products doesn't work properly from the very start. I'll name few examples: a GPS watch, a blood pressure monitor, a TV soundbar, even a vacuum cleaner. On the other side, my Windows 8 never crashes, seldom hangs. Are engineers, collectively, on sabbatic leave?
"Population aging is a shift in the distribution of a country's population towards older ages." (From wikipedia) It will only get worse.
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I'm more concerned about the time wasted waiting for a DVD or Blu-ray player to boot up, then check for updates, and determine whether or not the licence is valid, then not allow me to press the eject button until it confirms that there's no disc in it... These sorts of things worked just fine before they became infected with Java.
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Had to ask. A guy at a previous job was running in battery save mode for half a year before realizing why the gps was all over the map. Is i always showing a too large distance by any chance?
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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I'm more concerned about the time wasted waiting for a DVD or Blu-ray player to boot up, then check for updates, and determine whether or not the licence is valid, then not allow me to press the eject button until it confirms that there's no disc in it... These sorts of things worked just fine before they became infected with Java.
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I kinda know what you mean, but ... my suspicion is that it's the "software engineering" side of new devices that lets down the hardware engineer side. A sous vide I bought, with WiFi and BlueTooth. That works wonderfully, if you ignore the WiFi and bluetooth (and definitely the app that comes with it) I don't own a GPS watch, or even a smart watch: mine has hands, is made of titanium, and was a gift last century! Vacuum cleaners ... blame the EU, I do. I have a "old" 2200W mains machine which works, even on cat hair. Modern ones ... the EU cut the max power in two stages to 900W and they suck. In both senses. They are rechargeable mostly because the manufacturers needed to find something to sell them on, since "actually cleaning" was no longer an option.
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
OriginalGriff wrote:
Vacuum cleaners [...] they suck
You only wish they did. In the near future, they will stop in the middle of cleaning, download a firmware update, and fail to start again because of a licensing issue.
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OriginalGriff wrote:
Vacuum cleaners [...] they suck
You only wish they did. In the near future, they will stop in the middle of cleaning, download a firmware update, and fail to start again because of a licensing issue.
That's OK - I'm used to switching the hoover off and back on again anyway... :laugh:
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Not software engineering, the real one. Software engineering used to compare with the latter like astrology compares with astrophysics. But now? In my bitter experience, many brand new products doesn't work properly from the very start. I'll name few examples: a GPS watch, a blood pressure monitor, a TV soundbar, even a vacuum cleaner. On the other side, my Windows 8 never crashes, seldom hangs. Are engineers, collectively, on sabbatic leave?
Most people in software arent engineers, they are nerds.
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Managers.
Latest Article - A Concise Overview of Threads Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
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It really isn't so much about the power as you might think. It's all about air flow. It's a bit like with amplifiers. Twice the power only gives 3db more sound And modern vacuums simply are to small to have a proper airflow. If you have the space you should buy one of these[^]. They never were more than 1000w but they will last you your lifetime.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
"Twice the power only gives 3db more sound"... That's a bit misleading. Twice the power gives twice the 'sound'. Sound pressure level has a logarithmic scale of measurement where +3db is a multiplying factor of 2. A logarithmic scale of measurement is used because the human ear is also logarithmic, automatically compensating for increases in sound pressure level so the perceived increase in loudness isn't linear. An increase of 3db is a doubling of the SPL. It's twice as loud, although to the brain doesn't seem so, but that's a physiological phenomenon.
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I kinda know what you mean, but ... my suspicion is that it's the "software engineering" side of new devices that lets down the hardware engineer side. A sous vide I bought, with WiFi and BlueTooth. That works wonderfully, if you ignore the WiFi and bluetooth (and definitely the app that comes with it) I don't own a GPS watch, or even a smart watch: mine has hands, is made of titanium, and was a gift last century! Vacuum cleaners ... blame the EU, I do. I have a "old" 2200W mains machine which works, even on cat hair. Modern ones ... the EU cut the max power in two stages to 900W and they suck. In both senses. They are rechargeable mostly because the manufacturers needed to find something to sell them on, since "actually cleaning" was no longer an option.
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
In my past it has been if there is an Engineering problem it's too late to fix it or it will cost too much so let the Software Engineers fix it they can make it work so we code around problems and at least make it work till the next version (hate it) But then again " It's software that makes Hardware Happen" ;)
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Not software engineering, the real one. Software engineering used to compare with the latter like astrology compares with astrophysics. But now? In my bitter experience, many brand new products doesn't work properly from the very start. I'll name few examples: a GPS watch, a blood pressure monitor, a TV soundbar, even a vacuum cleaner. On the other side, my Windows 8 never crashes, seldom hangs. Are engineers, collectively, on sabbatic leave?
I agree with you here. I've notice a number of old school mechanical devices that are poorly designed. For example, they've put in some new paper towel dispensers in the bathrooms and kitchens at work. On the dispenser it says 'pull down slowly with both hands'. Yeah, that's not going to work. Every person I see using the dispensers just grabs the paper with one had and pulls down fairly quickly. Half the time, the paper gets jammed or tears off inside the dispenser. So now you have to resort to the dial on the side of the dispenser to get the paper to a place where you can reach it. Kind of like they only let the designer test the dispenser.
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It really isn't so much about the power as you might think. It's all about air flow. It's a bit like with amplifiers. Twice the power only gives 3db more sound And modern vacuums simply are to small to have a proper airflow. If you have the space you should buy one of these[^]. They never were more than 1000w but they will last you your lifetime.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
"request quote" I'm sure that'll be inexpensive for home use. Right.
