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  • L linuxjr

    Thank you for taking the time to respond. Very useful information to consider before my final selection of parts as still tweaking and verifying everything should work together before I pull the trigger on my purchases. I have thought about a linux OS just despite my username I haven't played with linux in a while and not sure which OS would be a good one to try. I have to look up John's posts as I know he's been sharing some tips about his migration to linux from Windows. Again thank you and have a great day.

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    realJSOP
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    Ubuntu or Mint (based on Ubuntu, but with a less traumatic UI change for long-time Windows users). If you want something lighter weight, use Lubuntu, but your system specs don't really require a lighter distro.

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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    • realJSOPR realJSOP

      Samsung - there were others that were less expensive, but most of those ship from China and take MONTHS to arrive.

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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      linuxjr
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      Thank you so much

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      • realJSOPR realJSOP

        Ubuntu or Mint (based on Ubuntu, but with a less traumatic UI change for long-time Windows users). If you want something lighter weight, use Lubuntu, but your system specs don't really require a lighter distro.

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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        linuxjr
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        Thanks I will research the ones you mentioned.

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        • L linuxjr

          Thank you for taking the time to respond. Very useful information to consider before my final selection of parts as still tweaking and verifying everything should work together before I pull the trigger on my purchases. I have thought about a linux OS just despite my username I haven't played with linux in a while and not sure which OS would be a good one to try. I have to look up John's posts as I know he's been sharing some tips about his migration to linux from Windows. Again thank you and have a great day.

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          Lost User
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          Quick note: NewEgg has the ASUS ROG Strix B450-F on a 48 hour sale (40 hrs left) for $109.99 Edit: promo code: EMCERSP22 in case you don't see it specs are very similar, Strix has dual m2 (vs single), slightly better sound, but what I like most is it has HDMI 2.0 + DP versus HDMI + DVI-D - display port is far more common in monitors = more choices (esp if going dual screens)

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          • L Lost User

            Quick note: NewEgg has the ASUS ROG Strix B450-F on a 48 hour sale (40 hrs left) for $109.99 Edit: promo code: EMCERSP22 in case you don't see it specs are very similar, Strix has dual m2 (vs single), slightly better sound, but what I like most is it has HDMI 2.0 + DP versus HDMI + DVI-D - display port is far more common in monitors = more choices (esp if going dual screens)

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            linuxjr
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            Thank you so much for sharing I'll take a look at it right now.

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            • D dandy72

              Mycroft Holmes wrote:

              250gb will not hold your c drive.

              Really? I have separate, full dev environments running inside 128GB VHDs, and have never had a need to make anything larger. But perhaps that's the key...? Not lump multiple instances of things together? I don't have anything running on the host other than necessary drivers. Since I never reboot it, for the longest time, my host OS was on an 80GB spinner - but with the VMs on SSDs.

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              Mycroft Holmes
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              There is a vast difference between the c drive contents and a development environment, all those other applications you may need/want usually get installed on the c: not just your dev tools.

              Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP

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              • M Mycroft Holmes

                There is a vast difference between the c drive contents and a development environment, all those other applications you may need/want usually get installed on the c: not just your dev tools.

                Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP

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                All I know is that all the VMs I use for work are each running inside a single VHD, and I always stick with the default of 128GB.

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                • M Mycroft Holmes

                  There is a vast difference between the c drive contents and a development environment, all those other applications you may need/want usually get installed on the c: not just your dev tools.

                  Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP

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                  linuxjr
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                  I agree there is a difference and I did in my design update the c: drive to a bigger ssd as to accommodate the OS and potential any other files that will get copied to the c drive if I were to install programs on other drives and such.

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                  • L linuxjr

                    I need some advice as I'm trying to build a new workstation my current one is fading away and got all my data backed up. I'm just looking for a programmer/productivity machine with no intention of playing games on it as I have game consoles for that. I am planning to just write code and would like to do some virtualization to be able to test my code in different environments along with database development. I hope the link below will show the specs I picked out correctly and would like to see if there are any changes that would need to be made that would ensure I can do what I'm hoping for. Thank you for any assistance and have a wonderful day. System Builder - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core, Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR MK2 OC, View 22 Tempered Glass Edition ATX Mid Tower - PCPartPicker[^]

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                    Clumpco
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                    Personally I would stick with Intel chipset/cpu if you are going to be using VMWare. Agree with others re SDD, I would have a 250GB for your main boot/OS, a second 250GB for your VM boot/OS and then a pair of mirrored 1-2TB mechanical drives for data storage (both for real and VMs). As said elsewhere, no need for a graphics card unless you want to go for more than two monitors - an Asus H270 has dual video out already. An Intel network card for the VMs would also make life a lot simpler.

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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      You don’t need a 850w power supply, and you don’t need a video card at all unless you need dual monitor support, and even then you can get one a lot cheaper than the one you selected (personally, I prefer nvidia cards). Also, you may regret getting a case that has a glass side panel. Finally compare prices with Newegg. The same cpu on Newegg is $150.

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                      -----
                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                      the Kris
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                      He does need a video card. Could go cheaper though.

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                      • C Clumpco

                        Personally I would stick with Intel chipset/cpu if you are going to be using VMWare. Agree with others re SDD, I would have a 250GB for your main boot/OS, a second 250GB for your VM boot/OS and then a pair of mirrored 1-2TB mechanical drives for data storage (both for real and VMs). As said elsewhere, no need for a graphics card unless you want to go for more than two monitors - an Asus H270 has dual video out already. An Intel network card for the VMs would also make life a lot simpler.

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                        linuxjr
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                        Thank you so much for the advice. Have a great day.

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                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                          You don’t need a 850w power supply, and you don’t need a video card at all unless you need dual monitor support, and even then you can get one a lot cheaper than the one you selected (personally, I prefer nvidia cards). Also, you may regret getting a case that has a glass side panel. Finally compare prices with Newegg. The same cpu on Newegg is $150.

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                          Bruce Patin
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                          I refuse to buy from Newegg anymore, when a cheap drive I got from them was defective and they would only take it back for a replacement, no refund.

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                            I refuse to buy from Newegg anymore, when a cheap drive I got from them was defective and they would only take it back for a replacement, no refund.

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                            realJSOP
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                            I've never gotten a defective part from NewEgg.

                            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                            • L linuxjr

                              I need some advice as I'm trying to build a new workstation my current one is fading away and got all my data backed up. I'm just looking for a programmer/productivity machine with no intention of playing games on it as I have game consoles for that. I am planning to just write code and would like to do some virtualization to be able to test my code in different environments along with database development. I hope the link below will show the specs I picked out correctly and would like to see if there are any changes that would need to be made that would ensure I can do what I'm hoping for. Thank you for any assistance and have a wonderful day. System Builder - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core, Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR MK2 OC, View 22 Tempered Glass Edition ATX Mid Tower - PCPartPicker[^]

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                              I’d go for a 1tb SSD over the 10k rpm spinner. Cheaper and faster. I used AMD cpus/chipsets for years but switched to intel CPUs/chipsets about five years ago. Kept running into situations where AMD didn’t support this or that new feature, whereas just about everything is support on Intel platform. If you go Intel, get an “H” motherboard. The main thing the “X” motherboards support (over H) is overclocking. If you’re not gaming, you probably don’t need it. And PCIe x4 SSD is definitely the way to go for your system drive.

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                              • L linuxjr

                                I need some advice as I'm trying to build a new workstation my current one is fading away and got all my data backed up. I'm just looking for a programmer/productivity machine with no intention of playing games on it as I have game consoles for that. I am planning to just write code and would like to do some virtualization to be able to test my code in different environments along with database development. I hope the link below will show the specs I picked out correctly and would like to see if there are any changes that would need to be made that would ensure I can do what I'm hoping for. Thank you for any assistance and have a wonderful day. System Builder - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core, Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR MK2 OC, View 22 Tempered Glass Edition ATX Mid Tower - PCPartPicker[^]

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                                Lost User
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                                I find the 250 GB SSD for a "loaded" "developer" machine (Windows 10) barely adequate (juggling less than 25 GB free space on that drive). Check your specs against those required for MR development. [https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/help/4039260/windows-10-mixed-reality-pc-hardware-guidelines\](https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/help/4039260/windows-10-mixed-reality-pc-hardware-guidelines)

                                "(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then". ― Blaise Pascal

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                                • L Lost User

                                  I find the 250 GB SSD for a "loaded" "developer" machine (Windows 10) barely adequate (juggling less than 25 GB free space on that drive). Check your specs against those required for MR development. [https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/help/4039260/windows-10-mixed-reality-pc-hardware-guidelines\](https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/help/4039260/windows-10-mixed-reality-pc-hardware-guidelines)

                                  "(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then". ― Blaise Pascal

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                                  linuxjr
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                                  Thanks for the link and I did adjust the main drive to a larger size. Have a great day.

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                                  • M matblue25

                                    I’d go for a 1tb SSD over the 10k rpm spinner. Cheaper and faster. I used AMD cpus/chipsets for years but switched to intel CPUs/chipsets about five years ago. Kept running into situations where AMD didn’t support this or that new feature, whereas just about everything is support on Intel platform. If you go Intel, get an “H” motherboard. The main thing the “X” motherboards support (over H) is overclocking. If you’re not gaming, you probably don’t need it. And PCIe x4 SSD is definitely the way to go for your system drive.

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                                    linuxjr
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                                    Thanks and I did swap the rpm spinner for another SSD. Have a great day.

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                                    • L linuxjr

                                      Thanks for the link and I did adjust the main drive to a larger size. Have a great day.

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                                      I went with the "bread box". Lots of room to work in. Cool running. [Thermaltake - Global - Core V21 - CA-1D5-00S1WN-00](https://www.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C\_00002559)

                                      "(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then". ― Blaise Pascal

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                                        I went with the "bread box". Lots of room to work in. Cool running. [Thermaltake - Global - Core V21 - CA-1D5-00S1WN-00](https://www.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C\_00002559)

                                        "(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then". ― Blaise Pascal

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                                        linuxjr
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                                        Nice case I got something a little bigger since I have ham hocks for hands and need room to plug stuff in. Thanks and have a great day.

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                                        • L linuxjr

                                          I need some advice as I'm trying to build a new workstation my current one is fading away and got all my data backed up. I'm just looking for a programmer/productivity machine with no intention of playing games on it as I have game consoles for that. I am planning to just write code and would like to do some virtualization to be able to test my code in different environments along with database development. I hope the link below will show the specs I picked out correctly and would like to see if there are any changes that would need to be made that would ensure I can do what I'm hoping for. Thank you for any assistance and have a wonderful day. System Builder - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core, Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR MK2 OC, View 22 Tempered Glass Edition ATX Mid Tower - PCPartPicker[^]

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                                          It's a bit dated, but I've been using this build for about 1 year now: System Builder - Core i7-7820X 3.6 GHz 8-Core, GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB Mini - PCPartPicker[^] I use Linux for the main OS and VMWare for C, C++, C#, Java and database work on different operating systems. My only complaint is that the budget didn't allow for a 14-16 core CPU.

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