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  • M Mycroft Holmes

    There is a vast difference between the c drive contents and a development environment, all those other applications you may need/want usually get installed on the c: not just your dev tools.

    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP

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    dandy72
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    All I know is that all the VMs I use for work are each running inside a single VHD, and I always stick with the default of 128GB.

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    • M Mycroft Holmes

      There is a vast difference between the c drive contents and a development environment, all those other applications you may need/want usually get installed on the c: not just your dev tools.

      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP

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      linuxjr
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      I agree there is a difference and I did in my design update the c: drive to a bigger ssd as to accommodate the OS and potential any other files that will get copied to the c drive if I were to install programs on other drives and such.

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      • L linuxjr

        I need some advice as I'm trying to build a new workstation my current one is fading away and got all my data backed up. I'm just looking for a programmer/productivity machine with no intention of playing games on it as I have game consoles for that. I am planning to just write code and would like to do some virtualization to be able to test my code in different environments along with database development. I hope the link below will show the specs I picked out correctly and would like to see if there are any changes that would need to be made that would ensure I can do what I'm hoping for. Thank you for any assistance and have a wonderful day. System Builder - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core, Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR MK2 OC, View 22 Tempered Glass Edition ATX Mid Tower - PCPartPicker[^]

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        Clumpco
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        Personally I would stick with Intel chipset/cpu if you are going to be using VMWare. Agree with others re SDD, I would have a 250GB for your main boot/OS, a second 250GB for your VM boot/OS and then a pair of mirrored 1-2TB mechanical drives for data storage (both for real and VMs). As said elsewhere, no need for a graphics card unless you want to go for more than two monitors - an Asus H270 has dual video out already. An Intel network card for the VMs would also make life a lot simpler.

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          You don’t need a 850w power supply, and you don’t need a video card at all unless you need dual monitor support, and even then you can get one a lot cheaper than the one you selected (personally, I prefer nvidia cards). Also, you may regret getting a case that has a glass side panel. Finally compare prices with Newegg. The same cpu on Newegg is $150.

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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          the Kris
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          He does need a video card. Could go cheaper though.

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          • C Clumpco

            Personally I would stick with Intel chipset/cpu if you are going to be using VMWare. Agree with others re SDD, I would have a 250GB for your main boot/OS, a second 250GB for your VM boot/OS and then a pair of mirrored 1-2TB mechanical drives for data storage (both for real and VMs). As said elsewhere, no need for a graphics card unless you want to go for more than two monitors - an Asus H270 has dual video out already. An Intel network card for the VMs would also make life a lot simpler.

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            linuxjr
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            Thank you so much for the advice. Have a great day.

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            • realJSOPR realJSOP

              You don’t need a 850w power supply, and you don’t need a video card at all unless you need dual monitor support, and even then you can get one a lot cheaper than the one you selected (personally, I prefer nvidia cards). Also, you may regret getting a case that has a glass side panel. Finally compare prices with Newegg. The same cpu on Newegg is $150.

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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              Bruce Patin
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              I refuse to buy from Newegg anymore, when a cheap drive I got from them was defective and they would only take it back for a replacement, no refund.

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                I refuse to buy from Newegg anymore, when a cheap drive I got from them was defective and they would only take it back for a replacement, no refund.

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                realJSOP
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                I've never gotten a defective part from NewEgg.

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                • L linuxjr

                  I need some advice as I'm trying to build a new workstation my current one is fading away and got all my data backed up. I'm just looking for a programmer/productivity machine with no intention of playing games on it as I have game consoles for that. I am planning to just write code and would like to do some virtualization to be able to test my code in different environments along with database development. I hope the link below will show the specs I picked out correctly and would like to see if there are any changes that would need to be made that would ensure I can do what I'm hoping for. Thank you for any assistance and have a wonderful day. System Builder - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core, Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR MK2 OC, View 22 Tempered Glass Edition ATX Mid Tower - PCPartPicker[^]

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                  matblue25
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                  I’d go for a 1tb SSD over the 10k rpm spinner. Cheaper and faster. I used AMD cpus/chipsets for years but switched to intel CPUs/chipsets about five years ago. Kept running into situations where AMD didn’t support this or that new feature, whereas just about everything is support on Intel platform. If you go Intel, get an “H” motherboard. The main thing the “X” motherboards support (over H) is overclocking. If you’re not gaming, you probably don’t need it. And PCIe x4 SSD is definitely the way to go for your system drive.

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                  • L linuxjr

                    I need some advice as I'm trying to build a new workstation my current one is fading away and got all my data backed up. I'm just looking for a programmer/productivity machine with no intention of playing games on it as I have game consoles for that. I am planning to just write code and would like to do some virtualization to be able to test my code in different environments along with database development. I hope the link below will show the specs I picked out correctly and would like to see if there are any changes that would need to be made that would ensure I can do what I'm hoping for. Thank you for any assistance and have a wonderful day. System Builder - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core, Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR MK2 OC, View 22 Tempered Glass Edition ATX Mid Tower - PCPartPicker[^]

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                    Lost User
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                    I find the 250 GB SSD for a "loaded" "developer" machine (Windows 10) barely adequate (juggling less than 25 GB free space on that drive). Check your specs against those required for MR development. [https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/help/4039260/windows-10-mixed-reality-pc-hardware-guidelines\](https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/help/4039260/windows-10-mixed-reality-pc-hardware-guidelines)

                    "(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then". ― Blaise Pascal

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                    • L Lost User

                      I find the 250 GB SSD for a "loaded" "developer" machine (Windows 10) barely adequate (juggling less than 25 GB free space on that drive). Check your specs against those required for MR development. [https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/help/4039260/windows-10-mixed-reality-pc-hardware-guidelines\](https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/help/4039260/windows-10-mixed-reality-pc-hardware-guidelines)

                      "(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then". ― Blaise Pascal

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                      linuxjr
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                      Thanks for the link and I did adjust the main drive to a larger size. Have a great day.

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                      • M matblue25

                        I’d go for a 1tb SSD over the 10k rpm spinner. Cheaper and faster. I used AMD cpus/chipsets for years but switched to intel CPUs/chipsets about five years ago. Kept running into situations where AMD didn’t support this or that new feature, whereas just about everything is support on Intel platform. If you go Intel, get an “H” motherboard. The main thing the “X” motherboards support (over H) is overclocking. If you’re not gaming, you probably don’t need it. And PCIe x4 SSD is definitely the way to go for your system drive.

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                        linuxjr
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                        Thanks and I did swap the rpm spinner for another SSD. Have a great day.

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                        • L linuxjr

                          Thanks for the link and I did adjust the main drive to a larger size. Have a great day.

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                          Lost User
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                          I went with the "bread box". Lots of room to work in. Cool running. [Thermaltake - Global - Core V21 - CA-1D5-00S1WN-00](https://www.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C\_00002559)

                          "(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then". ― Blaise Pascal

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                            I went with the "bread box". Lots of room to work in. Cool running. [Thermaltake - Global - Core V21 - CA-1D5-00S1WN-00](https://www.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C\_00002559)

                            "(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then". ― Blaise Pascal

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                            linuxjr
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                            Nice case I got something a little bigger since I have ham hocks for hands and need room to plug stuff in. Thanks and have a great day.

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                              I need some advice as I'm trying to build a new workstation my current one is fading away and got all my data backed up. I'm just looking for a programmer/productivity machine with no intention of playing games on it as I have game consoles for that. I am planning to just write code and would like to do some virtualization to be able to test my code in different environments along with database development. I hope the link below will show the specs I picked out correctly and would like to see if there are any changes that would need to be made that would ensure I can do what I'm hoping for. Thank you for any assistance and have a wonderful day. System Builder - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core, Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR MK2 OC, View 22 Tempered Glass Edition ATX Mid Tower - PCPartPicker[^]

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                              Jeff Clausius SG
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                              It's a bit dated, but I've been using this build for about 1 year now: System Builder - Core i7-7820X 3.6 GHz 8-Core, GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB Mini - PCPartPicker[^] I use Linux for the main OS and VMWare for C, C++, C#, Java and database work on different operating systems. My only complaint is that the budget didn't allow for a 14-16 core CPU.

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                              • J Jeff Clausius SG

                                It's a bit dated, but I've been using this build for about 1 year now: System Builder - Core i7-7820X 3.6 GHz 8-Core, GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB Mini - PCPartPicker[^] I use Linux for the main OS and VMWare for C, C++, C#, Java and database work on different operating systems. My only complaint is that the budget didn't allow for a 14-16 core CPU.

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                                linuxjr
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                                Nice system specs thanks for sharing gives me some ideas. Have a great day.

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                                • L linuxjr

                                  Nice system specs thanks for sharing gives me some ideas. Have a great day.

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                                  Jeff Clausius SG
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                                  NP. The machine I built needed to be somewhat portable. Many years ago, I used Clevo/Sager based laptops for my needs, but I needed something with a little more power now, and the KB/Monitor/Mouse was available wherever I needed to set up, so a portable desktop works with those needs. Good luck

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