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  • M Munchies_Matt

    I wouldnt even call him a paradox, just wrong, every single time.

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    kalberts
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    Epimenides was wrong? Did he lie? Well, he told you he did!

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      Memory Foam | NASA[^] "Perhaps the most widely recognized NASA spinoff, memory foam was invented by NASA-funded researchers looking for ways to keep test pilots cushioned during flights. Today, memory foam makes for more comfortable beds, couches and chairs, not to mention better shoes, movie theater seats and even football helmets." Yeah, so massively different it has NO application at all for the rest of us. /sarcasm Idiot.

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      Mark_Wallace wrote:

      Of course, a troll won't care about that kind of thing. He'll just cling on to a ridiculous argument, and continually insult people who point out that what he's saying makes no bleeding sense whatsoever.

      QED.

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      • M Mark_Wallace

        Not only that, but which position do you want it to remember? AFAIK, the only people who sleep in exactly the same position every night, and never move at all when they're asleep, are the ones who are only "asleep" because it says so on their gravestones.

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        OriginalGriff
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        I sleep in as many positions as the cat will allow me. Which is one, and don't wriggle too much if you value your toes. Herself on the other hand ... she sleeps in as many positions as it takes to wrap Herself up in the whole duvet like a sausage roll. :sigh:

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          Mattress makers have begun switching to a solid piece of foam. I lied (laid ?) down on one this week. Brought back memories of judo mats from my teenage days. But then,,,,,, Is that such a bad thing ? I will be purchasing something on which to sleep soon. Has (or is) anyone else around here used (or using) a foam mattress ? Any Difference ? Good ? Bad ? Better ? Worse ?

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          Two-part caution: 1 - If polyurethane, or similarly composed material, if it's not properly cured it will emit very low levels of formaldehyde. This, over time, causes some very serious chronic illnesses. 2 - If made in China (you can be sure of that, if not now, soon) then the chances of poor quality control is significantly greater than substantial. Caveat Emptor

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            I sleep in as many positions as the cat will allow me. Which is one, and don't wriggle too much if you value your toes. Herself on the other hand ... she sleeps in as many positions as it takes to wrap Herself up in the whole duvet like a sausage roll. :sigh:

            Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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            Mark_Wallace
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            OriginalGriff wrote:

            Herself on the other hand ... she sleeps in as many positions as it takes to wrap Herself up in the whole duvet like a sausage roll.

            I know the problem. I'm always waking up with aches and pains because at least one appendage is suffering from exposure. And the cat makes a rubbish -- and bloody expensive to maintain -- hot-water bottle.

            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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              Epimenides was wrong? Did he lie? Well, he told you he did!

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              Mark_Wallace
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              There's no point in trying to have an intelligent or intellectual discussion with fatboy/munchies matt. If you heard a whooshing noise, it was the meaning of what you said flying over his head -- but don't worry: he'll google for a wikipedia page on the subject, and instantly become the world's greatest expert on it. Thankfully, he's the only troll that has made CP his home.

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                Mattress makers have begun switching to a solid piece of foam. I lied (laid ?) down on one this week. Brought back memories of judo mats from my teenage days. But then,,,,,, Is that such a bad thing ? I will be purchasing something on which to sleep soon. Has (or is) anyone else around here used (or using) a foam mattress ? Any Difference ? Good ? Bad ? Better ? Worse ?

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                SkysTheLimit
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                We've had a foam mattress for about a year now and so far, we like it. We call it the marshmallow because it 'hugs you and never lets you go'. I like it because I don't move every time my partner does and it is supportive where it needs to be. It does depend on what position you sleep in though. I don't think it is comfortable for sleeping on your stomach. I find it a little warmer than springs but not uncomfortably so.

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                • M Mark_Wallace

                  OriginalGriff wrote:

                  Herself on the other hand ... she sleeps in as many positions as it takes to wrap Herself up in the whole duvet like a sausage roll.

                  I know the problem. I'm always waking up with aches and pains because at least one appendage is suffering from exposure. And the cat makes a rubbish -- and bloody expensive to maintain -- hot-water bottle.

                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  OriginalGriff
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                  The cat makes an excellent footwarmer, provided I don't move too much. Or he doesn't move too much: he pushes quite aggressively if a leg is in his way and you can end up doing Yoga in your sleep. A "real" bottle would be cheaper - and rather less smelly as well.

                  Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                  "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                  • K kalberts

                    Epimenides was wrong? Did he lie? Well, he told you he did!

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                    Munchies_Matt
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                    You will have to explain, it is lost on me.

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                      You will have to explain, it is lost on me.

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                      kalberts
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                      Epimenides was a philosopher in the old Greece. He was born in Crete, and is father of one of the first world-known logical paradoxes, when he claimed that "Everything said by a man from Crete is a lie!" But since he was a Cretan himself, his statement was a lie: It is NOT true that everything said by a Cretan is a lie, some of their statements are true. But if some statements made by Cretans are true, then his statement is a lie, making it true that he lied ... or whichever way you want to turn it. Paradoxes are that way. The word play on "lie" is of course not from old Greece, and probably cannot be translated to any other language.

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                        Epimenides was a philosopher in the old Greece. He was born in Crete, and is father of one of the first world-known logical paradoxes, when he claimed that "Everything said by a man from Crete is a lie!" But since he was a Cretan himself, his statement was a lie: It is NOT true that everything said by a Cretan is a lie, some of their statements are true. But if some statements made by Cretans are true, then his statement is a lie, making it true that he lied ... or whichever way you want to turn it. Paradoxes are that way. The word play on "lie" is of course not from old Greece, and probably cannot be translated to any other language.

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                        Munchies_Matt
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                        Even if knew of this chap I still wouldnt see its relevance to what I wrote! :)

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                          Munchies_Matt wrote:

                          lie for people, lay for objects

                          Unless you're out getting laid. ;)

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                          DRHuff
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                          But most of my friends lied about getting laid.

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                            Even if knew of this chap I still wouldnt see its relevance to what I wrote! :)

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                            kalberts
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                            I just wanted to make a funny follow up to the lye - lie discussion by bringning in the second meaning of lie, and how a sentence can have two meanings depending on which meaning of lie you select. If you don't know of Epimenides paradox, you would never think of the second meaning, that of telling a lie, and would only get the first meaning, "lies behind" in the "is the source of" meaning. Knowing of Epimenide and his paradox you would probably make the asspcoation between paradox and the famous Cretan, hinting you about the alternate meaning of lie. And that's as far as that joke will go. If you don't think it is funny, just skip over it.

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                              I just wanted to make a funny follow up to the lye - lie discussion by bringning in the second meaning of lie, and how a sentence can have two meanings depending on which meaning of lie you select. If you don't know of Epimenides paradox, you would never think of the second meaning, that of telling a lie, and would only get the first meaning, "lies behind" in the "is the source of" meaning. Knowing of Epimenide and his paradox you would probably make the asspcoation between paradox and the famous Cretan, hinting you about the alternate meaning of lie. And that's as far as that joke will go. If you don't think it is funny, just skip over it.

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                              Munchies_Matt
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                              A little too obscure for me I am afraid. :)

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                              follow up to the lye

                              that's a slippery one! :)

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                                There's no point in trying to have an intelligent or intellectual discussion with fatboy/munchies matt. If you heard a whooshing noise, it was the meaning of what you said flying over his head -- but don't worry: he'll google for a wikipedia page on the subject, and instantly become the world's greatest expert on it. Thankfully, he's the only troll that has made CP his home.

                                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                Munchies_Matt
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                                I am sure you know all about Greek philosophers though. ;)

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                                  Mattress makers have begun switching to a solid piece of foam. I lied (laid ?) down on one this week. Brought back memories of judo mats from my teenage days. But then,,,,,, Is that such a bad thing ? I will be purchasing something on which to sleep soon. Has (or is) anyone else around here used (or using) a foam mattress ? Any Difference ? Good ? Bad ? Better ? Worse ?

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                                  We've had a TempurPedic (sp?) for eight plus years. It's very comfortable to lie/lay/whatever on. You don't get pressure points like you can with other types of mattresses. Noticeable difference when we are in a hotel. It is a bit warmer than a regular mattress. Being at the point of chronological development where my wife has, ah, temperature regulation difficulties, we tend to have windows open at night. Overall, it's been a good experience, though not perfect. Contemplating going to a local store that carries Purple https://purple.com/ mattresses and give them a test lay/lie/whatever.

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                                    Mattress makers have begun switching to a solid piece of foam. I lied (laid ?) down on one this week. Brought back memories of judo mats from my teenage days. But then,,,,,, Is that such a bad thing ? I will be purchasing something on which to sleep soon. Has (or is) anyone else around here used (or using) a foam mattress ? Any Difference ? Good ? Bad ? Better ? Worse ?

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                                    Just say no. Awful things.

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                                    • M Munchies_Matt

                                      Yes, this is why they didnt use memory foam for the couches in space ships of course. :doh:

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                                      Mycroft Holmes
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                                      Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                      space ships

                                      Gravity - I think there may be a difference in the environments.

                                      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP

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                                        Mattress makers have begun switching to a solid piece of foam. I lied (laid ?) down on one this week. Brought back memories of judo mats from my teenage days. But then,,,,,, Is that such a bad thing ? I will be purchasing something on which to sleep soon. Has (or is) anyone else around here used (or using) a foam mattress ? Any Difference ? Good ? Bad ? Better ? Worse ?

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                                        kalberts
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                                        In this country (Norway), foam mattresses have been the rule for kids' beds, cabins and campers, for 50+ years. When you grow up, you get a "real" mattress at home. In mountain cabins, you accept anyting, even a twenty year old sloppy old 5 cm thick mat. It is still better than putting your sleeping bag directly on the wood. If you're planning for something more comfortable, such as in your camper, you should select a double mattress: A bottom 10 cm firm foam mattress, and on top of that, an "eggshell" mattess that has a 5 cm solid layer with a 5 cm layer of bumps, like in an egg carton. The eggshell is the under side of the top mattress. If you are a heavyweight, the top mattress should be as firm as possible; more lightweight people prefer a softer top mattress. The eggshell foam mattresses are reasonably acceptable, even for a multi-week vacation. But I admit that I still feel sort of relief when I get home to my "real" mattress :-)

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                                          We've had a TempurPedic (sp?) for eight plus years. It's very comfortable to lie/lay/whatever on. You don't get pressure points like you can with other types of mattresses. Noticeable difference when we are in a hotel. It is a bit warmer than a regular mattress. Being at the point of chronological development where my wife has, ah, temperature regulation difficulties, we tend to have windows open at night. Overall, it's been a good experience, though not perfect. Contemplating going to a local store that carries Purple https://purple.com/ mattresses and give them a test lay/lie/whatever.

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                                          I've had 2 tempurpedics, over the last 14 years. I get warm but adjust blankets accordingly. I like that my SO can toss and turn without my side moving. I really notice that when traveling with hotel mattresses. I tried the purple one at a store for a few minutes. I found the Sleep Number to be most compelling next bed - the adjustable firmness is of interest, along with a heating/cooling option.

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