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    When I first started programming I read a lot of articles about a lot of programming subjects. I've bookmarked many many articles over the years about OOP, design patterns, architecture, databases, functional programming, algorithms... And I just went through the list and deleted almost all of them. First and foremost because a lot of them are outdated or are no longer relevant for me (like WinForms articles or "getting started with x" from 2010). But also because I now know a lot about the subjects those articles talk about, like SOLID and SQL injection. It's kind of funny to realize I once thought it necessary to bookmark an article about resource files. It's awesome that I'm having the same job as 8 years ago yet I do completely different things and I'm still learning weekly.

    Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

      When I first started programming I read a lot of articles about a lot of programming subjects. I've bookmarked many many articles over the years about OOP, design patterns, architecture, databases, functional programming, algorithms... And I just went through the list and deleted almost all of them. First and foremost because a lot of them are outdated or are no longer relevant for me (like WinForms articles or "getting started with x" from 2010). But also because I now know a lot about the subjects those articles talk about, like SOLID and SQL injection. It's kind of funny to realize I once thought it necessary to bookmark an article about resource files. It's awesome that I'm having the same job as 8 years ago yet I do completely different things and I'm still learning weekly.

      Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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      This post reminds me of how different the experience for a new developer was 20 years ago vs. the last 10 years or so. :) My bookmarks weren't the virtual kind! :laugh: My resources were mostly 1000+ page books that I bought with my own money and the MSDN CDs that came every quarter. I was a big fan of Leo and ZDTV during that time. I was still in college, but had started working at a startup where I had to turn in a timesheet that showed what I did. I always adjusted the hours down to what I thought was reasonable for the task, not charging for the many hours spent trying to figure stuff out that I felt like I should have known. Fast forward 20 years and I'm still with the same company. The application that I started working on back in '99 is still going strong. :) Back to the topic about bookmarking, I hardly ever bookmark anything anymore since most things are available via Google in mere seconds. As the years pass, it's just a natural occurrence that the more problems you solve in programming not only leave you with more knowledge, but in most cases actual working code samples of your own to draw from in the future...a warchest of sorts. :)

      Sander Rossel wrote:

      and I'm still learning weekly.

      :thumbsup: This is definitely a profession where the learning never seems to stop. :)

      "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

        When I first started programming I read a lot of articles about a lot of programming subjects. I've bookmarked many many articles over the years about OOP, design patterns, architecture, databases, functional programming, algorithms... And I just went through the list and deleted almost all of them. First and foremost because a lot of them are outdated or are no longer relevant for me (like WinForms articles or "getting started with x" from 2010). But also because I now know a lot about the subjects those articles talk about, like SOLID and SQL injection. It's kind of funny to realize I once thought it necessary to bookmark an article about resource files. It's awesome that I'm having the same job as 8 years ago yet I do completely different things and I'm still learning weekly.

        Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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        Ravi Bhavnani
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        Sander Rossel wrote:

        having the same job as 8 years ago yet I do completely different things and I'm still learning weekly

        :thumbsup: /ravi

        My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

          When I first started programming I read a lot of articles about a lot of programming subjects. I've bookmarked many many articles over the years about OOP, design patterns, architecture, databases, functional programming, algorithms... And I just went through the list and deleted almost all of them. First and foremost because a lot of them are outdated or are no longer relevant for me (like WinForms articles or "getting started with x" from 2010). But also because I now know a lot about the subjects those articles talk about, like SOLID and SQL injection. It's kind of funny to realize I once thought it necessary to bookmark an article about resource files. It's awesome that I'm having the same job as 8 years ago yet I do completely different things and I'm still learning weekly.

          Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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          You're never too old to learn.

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            You're never too old to learn.

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            theoldfool
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            Yes, I have reached the age where I only need one video. :)

            If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.

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              This post reminds me of how different the experience for a new developer was 20 years ago vs. the last 10 years or so. :) My bookmarks weren't the virtual kind! :laugh: My resources were mostly 1000+ page books that I bought with my own money and the MSDN CDs that came every quarter. I was a big fan of Leo and ZDTV during that time. I was still in college, but had started working at a startup where I had to turn in a timesheet that showed what I did. I always adjusted the hours down to what I thought was reasonable for the task, not charging for the many hours spent trying to figure stuff out that I felt like I should have known. Fast forward 20 years and I'm still with the same company. The application that I started working on back in '99 is still going strong. :) Back to the topic about bookmarking, I hardly ever bookmark anything anymore since most things are available via Google in mere seconds. As the years pass, it's just a natural occurrence that the more problems you solve in programming not only leave you with more knowledge, but in most cases actual working code samples of your own to draw from in the future...a warchest of sorts. :)

              Sander Rossel wrote:

              and I'm still learning weekly.

              :thumbsup: This is definitely a profession where the learning never seems to stop. :)

              "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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              Sander Rossel
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              kmoorevs wrote:

              My resources were mostly 1000+ page books

              1000+ pages :omg: I got a few books in my early days, mostly like 300 to 400 pages, but nowadays I just read the docs of whatever I'm trying to learn.

              kmoorevs wrote:

              the MSDN CDs that came every quarter

              I remember those, my dad always got them.

              kmoorevs wrote:

              I hardly ever bookmark anything anymore since most things are available via Google in mere seconds

              Me neither for the same reason.

              kmoorevs wrote:

              The application that I started working on back in '99 is still going strong

              Did you manage to keep the used technologies up-to-date? I've always found that to be the hardest part of programming... If you can't, working on such an old application could be a nightmare :omg: In my experience there's never time or money to upgrade or replace outdated technologies :sigh:

              Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                You're never too old to learn.

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                Sander Rossel
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                In my experience a lot of people get too old to want to learn though ;)

                Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                  In my experience a lot of people get too old to want to learn though ;)

                  Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                  I was born in 1945. I spent this morning learning LINQ, I am currently learning some very basic Hebrew, and have a list of other things that I still want to learn.

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                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                    When I first started programming I read a lot of articles about a lot of programming subjects. I've bookmarked many many articles over the years about OOP, design patterns, architecture, databases, functional programming, algorithms... And I just went through the list and deleted almost all of them. First and foremost because a lot of them are outdated or are no longer relevant for me (like WinForms articles or "getting started with x" from 2010). But also because I now know a lot about the subjects those articles talk about, like SOLID and SQL injection. It's kind of funny to realize I once thought it necessary to bookmark an article about resource files. It's awesome that I'm having the same job as 8 years ago yet I do completely different things and I'm still learning weekly.

                    Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                    I bookmarked your post because of its timeless wisdom. :-D

                    Latest Article - Slack-Chatting with you rPi Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                      I was born in 1945. I spent this morning learning LINQ, I am currently learning some very basic Hebrew, and have a list of other things that I still want to learn.

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                      Sander Rossel
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                      Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                      I am currently learning some very basic Hebrew

                      מגניב!

                      Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                      I spent this morning learning LINQ

                      I know programmers who're not retired and who still refuse to properly learn and apply LINQ (or SQL and even .NET in general) :) Perhaps it's not so much an age thing, but a mentality thing. And not many people like learning at all when they can spend their evenings in front of the television :sigh: My parents both picked up studies at the Open University and they're well in their 50's and 60's.

                      Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                        I bookmarked your post because of its timeless wisdom. :-D

                        Latest Article - Slack-Chatting with you rPi Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                        Sander Rossel
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                        I get that a lot ;p

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                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                          Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                          I am currently learning some very basic Hebrew

                          מגניב!

                          Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                          I spent this morning learning LINQ

                          I know programmers who're not retired and who still refuse to properly learn and apply LINQ (or SQL and even .NET in general) :) Perhaps it's not so much an age thing, but a mentality thing. And not many people like learning at all when they can spend their evenings in front of the television :sigh: My parents both picked up studies at the Open University and they're well in their 50's and 60's.

                          Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                          Sander Rossel wrote:

                          well in their 50's and 60's.

                          My eldest son will be 50 in June. :omg:

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                            Sander Rossel wrote:

                            well in their 50's and 60's.

                            My eldest son will be 50 in June. :omg:

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                            I'm in my 60s and I'm still programming and learning new stuff every day. Once I no longer find that interesting I shall stop!

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                              I'm in my 60s and I'm still programming and learning new stuff every day. Once I no longer find that interesting I shall stop!

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                              You youngsters. ;P

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                                You youngsters. ;P

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                                Sander Rossel
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                                You dinosaurs. ;p

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                                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                  You dinosaurs. ;p

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                                  Growl, screech, munch. ;)

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                                    I'm in my 60s and I'm still programming and learning new stuff every day. Once I no longer find that interesting I shall stop!

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                                    Jim_Snyder
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                                    Somewhat the same here ... in my 60's, but learning new things about once a week. The rate has slowed as my employer is doing away with custom code. :(

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                                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                      In my experience a lot of people get too old to want to learn though ;)

                                      Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                                      M chael Luna
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                                      Age has nothing to do with it. I know a lot of younger people who don't want to learn.

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                                        Growl, screech, munch. ;)

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                                        M chael Luna
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                                        Damn kids!!!, get off my lawn

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                                          Damn kids!!!, get off my lawn

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                                          And take your damn tanks with you!

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