The Concept of the human Soul is a religious concept, which has no basis in fact, and does not exist
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
It is true that over the human history the main explanations of the origin of the 'soul' came from religions and other philosophical materials, but it is still true that we have a - rather complex - part of our existence we do not understand...
There's no need to make up a story to fill the gaps. After dissecting, we never found a soul. When studying bacteria, we did not find a soul. It has as much chance at existing in your body as a nuclear fission-reactor existing in your body, and equal the amount of proof.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
After dissecting, we never found a soul. When studying bacteria, we did not find a soul.
Well that settles it. If you can't find it, it must not exist. :-D
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Nathan Minier wrote:
faith and science
Ironically, you have faith in science. :-D Faith is believing in something that can't be seen. You believe what science teaches you without actually verifying the results yourself, which means you are taking their word for it on faith. We ALL use faith every day in all that we do. It's not a bad thing nor just a religious thing.
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ZurdoDev wrote:
You believe what science teaches you without actually verifying the results yourself
Ah, the #1 bullshit from religious people to try to convince us that science is faith. I look around me, I see science doings everywhere. As for God, no sign.
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ZurdoDev wrote:
You believe what science teaches you without actually verifying the results yourself
Ah, the #1 bullshit from religious people to try to convince us that science is faith. I look around me, I see science doings everywhere. As for God, no sign.
Very Large Brain wrote:
he #1 bullshit from religious people to try to convince us that science is faith.
Nope. Once again your biased mind has deceived you. I never once said science is faith. That's pure stupidity.
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Very Large Brain wrote:
he #1 bullshit from religious people to try to convince us that science is faith.
Nope. Once again your biased mind has deceived you. I never once said science is faith. That's pure stupidity.
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You talked about faith in science in a previous. What were you meaning then?
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You talked about faith in science in a previous. What were you meaning then?
Very Large Brain wrote:
You talked about faith in science in a previous. What were you meaning then?
You quoted a very simple straightforward sentence of mine and you don't understand? Here is what I said earlier, "
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you have faith in science.
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You believe what science teaches you without actually verifying the results yourself, which means you are taking their word for it on faith. We ALL use faith every day in all that we do. It's not a bad thing nor just a religious thing.
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Very Large Brain wrote:
You talked about faith in science in a previous. What were you meaning then?
You quoted a very simple straightforward sentence of mine and you don't understand? Here is what I said earlier, "
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you have faith in science.
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You believe what science teaches you without actually verifying the results yourself, which means you are taking their word for it on faith. We ALL use faith every day in all that we do. It's not a bad thing nor just a religious thing.
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[Faith | Definition of Faith by Merriam-Webster](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/faith) Outside the context of religion, it says that "faith" is "firm belief in something for which there is no proof". When I was studying science, professors encouraged us to avoid a firm belief, that science is what we know so far, and that theories could be proved wrong. It happened in the past, and probably still happening nowadays. So, no, science is not based on faith. It is not because I cannot experiment something myself that I have faith in it. But I will certainly not let a science belief rule my life based on some science fact.
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[Faith | Definition of Faith by Merriam-Webster](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/faith) Outside the context of religion, it says that "faith" is "firm belief in something for which there is no proof". When I was studying science, professors encouraged us to avoid a firm belief, that science is what we know so far, and that theories could be proved wrong. It happened in the past, and probably still happening nowadays. So, no, science is not based on faith. It is not because I cannot experiment something myself that I have faith in it. But I will certainly not let a science belief rule my life based on some science fact.
Very Large Brain wrote:
"firm belief in something for which there is no proof".
That's a valid enough definition even within religion.
Very Large Brain wrote:
that science is what we know so far, and that theories could be proved wrong.
But as Eddy pointed out, science also bastardized the definition of fact so that they can now call things facts. :laugh:
Very Large Brain wrote:
science is not based on faith
Of course not. Why are you still on this? :doh:
Very Large Brain wrote:
t is not because I cannot experiment something myself that I have faith in it.
Yes, that is EXACTLY what it IS, even using YOUR definition. You have now admitted to having faith in science because you "have a firm belief in something for which there is no proof." You can't prove most of what science says, why? For what you already said. Science is our current understanding and will likely change.
Very Large Brain wrote:
But I will certainly not let a science belief rule my life based on some science fact.
Sure you do.
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Very Large Brain wrote:
"firm belief in something for which there is no proof".
That's a valid enough definition even within religion.
Very Large Brain wrote:
that science is what we know so far, and that theories could be proved wrong.
But as Eddy pointed out, science also bastardized the definition of fact so that they can now call things facts. :laugh:
Very Large Brain wrote:
science is not based on faith
Of course not. Why are you still on this? :doh:
Very Large Brain wrote:
t is not because I cannot experiment something myself that I have faith in it.
Yes, that is EXACTLY what it IS, even using YOUR definition. You have now admitted to having faith in science because you "have a firm belief in something for which there is no proof." You can't prove most of what science says, why? For what you already said. Science is our current understanding and will likely change.
Very Large Brain wrote:
But I will certainly not let a science belief rule my life based on some science fact.
Sure you do.
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ZurdoDev wrote:
But as Eddy pointed out
Do you have faith on what Eddy says?
ZurdoDev wrote:
Of course not. Why are you still on this?
[Because that is what you said. Look under "Here is what I said earlier"](https://www.codeproject.com/Messages/5602382/Re-The-Concept-of-the-human-Soul-is-a-religious-co.aspx)
ZurdoDev wrote:
Yes, that is EXACTLY what it IS, even using YOUR definition. You have now admitted to having faith in science because you
The EXACT opposite of what I said.
ZurdoDev wrote:
Sure you do.
Give me an example.
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ZurdoDev wrote:
But as Eddy pointed out
Do you have faith on what Eddy says?
ZurdoDev wrote:
Of course not. Why are you still on this?
[Because that is what you said. Look under "Here is what I said earlier"](https://www.codeproject.com/Messages/5602382/Re-The-Concept-of-the-human-Soul-is-a-religious-co.aspx)
ZurdoDev wrote:
Yes, that is EXACTLY what it IS, even using YOUR definition. You have now admitted to having faith in science because you
The EXACT opposite of what I said.
ZurdoDev wrote:
Sure you do.
Give me an example.
Very Large Brain wrote:
Because that is what you said. Look under "Here is what I said earlier"
I am very surprised you cannot tell that "you have faith in science" != "science requires faith." :doh:
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Very Large Brain wrote:
Because that is what you said. Look under "Here is what I said earlier"
I am very surprised you cannot tell that "you have faith in science" != "science requires faith." :doh:
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ZurdoDev wrote:
I am very surprised you cannot tell that "you have faith in science" != "science requires faith."
You are a very confuse person. :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:
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ZurdoDev wrote:
I am very surprised you cannot tell that "you have faith in science" != "science requires faith."
You are a very confuse person. :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:
Very Large Brain wrote:
You are a very confuse person.
Left brains vs. right brains. Science stands on its own, it does not care if you have faith in it or not. It does not care if you exist. Science does not need faith. Simple. You have faith in science because you take what science tells you without proving it yourself. I have faith in God but God does not require faith. Simple. When things are logically straightforward, it somehow messes with the leftist mind. Leftists want to complicate things for some strange reason. But the worst part is, very few leftists can actually see it.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
After dissecting, we never found a soul. When studying bacteria, we did not find a soul.
Well that settles it. If you can't find it, it must not exist. :-D
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ZurdoDev wrote:
Well that settles it. If you can't find it, it must not exist. :-D
That may be how it works in your little mind. I'm tired of your word-games :)
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ZurdoDev wrote:
Well that settles it. If you can't find it, it must not exist. :-D
That may be how it works in your little mind. I'm tired of your word-games :)
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
I'm tired of your word-games
My word games!!!? I guess next time bring a dictionary. ;)
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
He describes fact in science as meaning data, not absolute certainty
Yes, I understand that science has bastardized the meaning of the word fact. I don't fall for it. I have my own brain and came make my own decisions.
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ZurdoDev wrote:
Yes, I understand that science has bastardized the meaning of the word fact.
Haha, you sound like someone pissed to find out that a fact is in fact, factually not a fact :D
ZurdoDev wrote:
I have my own brain and came make my own decisions.
I do not "decide". Things are as they are.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
I'm tired of your word-games
My word games!!!? I guess next time bring a dictionary. ;)
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ZurdoDev wrote:
My word games!!!?
An entire thread of them, for those interested :) No arguments, just changing my words and repeating yourself. And yes, that's why I quote the relevant parts.
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ZurdoDev wrote:
Yes, I understand that science has bastardized the meaning of the word fact.
Haha, you sound like someone pissed to find out that a fact is in fact, factually not a fact :D
ZurdoDev wrote:
I have my own brain and came make my own decisions.
I do not "decide". Things are as they are.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
I do not "decide".
The definition of brainwashed. :thumbsup:
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ZurdoDev wrote:
My word games!!!?
An entire thread of them, for those interested :) No arguments, just changing my words and repeating yourself. And yes, that's why I quote the relevant parts.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
just changing my words
Like when I said that "YOU have faith in science" and you changed that to "science requires faith"? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
repeating yourself.
Should I say something different than the truth? :laugh: :laugh:
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Urban Cricket wrote:
the program requires intelligent design.
I don't think it's hard to find evidence to the contrary
such as?
Bram van Kampen
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Well Richard, Did you ever read the books by Richard Dawkins, in particlar "The Blind Watchmaker". Regards,
Bram van Kampen
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The concept of a soul is not just religious based. Many cultures and schools of thought look at the soul more as a person's life force. This is why AI can never be fully realized; it is missing the "life force" component. To be clear here, you don't "know" anything. I don't "know" anything either. None of us do. We all have beliefs and opinions, but none of us "know" what happens to us when we die, other than the fact that our body rots, decays, and eventually disappears. Where does that life force go? Some believe (not know) that it goes back into the overall energy of the universe, or heaven, or hell. Who knows, really?
Ido!
Bram van Kampen