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  • C Christian Graus

    Hey Mike. I remember you being right wing enough to buy in to the Trump kool aide. How have you been? What's interesting to me about the right is that they either are stupid, or they are too dishonest to correctly state my views. I presume you're merely misinformed, so I'll clarify for you. AGW and it's harm on the earth is visible today. It's easy to see. But, either way, smart people believe experts over Alan Jones I believe there's been one incident of planes in buildings, over a decade ago. Either way, I've never met a person who suggests that Islamic terrorists are 'misunderstood angels', that's an example of the simple mindedness of the right. The Muslims must all be good, or all bad. The world can't have nuance. That's too confusing. Yes, refugees do have a right to live and a right to cross borders IF the country signed the refugee convention, they immediately present themselves to authorities and submit to processing, and prove their claims. This is in fact international law.

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    Christian Graus wrote:

    AGW and it's harm on the earth is visible today

    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: BULLSHIT! Name one single incident where the 0.8C average temperature rise over the last century has caused no harm where the 0.5 C rise since 1960 has. (Remember, the warming pre 1960 was natural, and therefore according to you can not be harmful since you said 'A'GW)

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    • C Christian Graus

      I just saw this bullshit

      Munchies_Matt wrote:

      Muslims in the west might well want to live peacefully, but clearly they are incapable of policing Islam.

      Correct. Like I'm incapable of policing my government when they kill refugees, or Catholics when they rape children. So what?

      Munchies_Matt wrote:

      Islam if it wants to be seen as a peaceful religion MUST control, exclude, and limit it's violent extremist sects.

      This is a fake test that bigots like you would never impose on Buddhists or Christians

      Munchies_Matt wrote:

      listen to Tawhidi on thisReforming Islam (Imam Tawhidi Interview) - YouTube[^],

      Tawhidi is not a Muslim, let alone an Imam. He's a dumb bigot. The simple fact is. you're totally wrong. The guy running the local kebab store does not need to control or apologise for ISIS. If he's not ISIS, he has every right to follow his peaceful brand of Islam in peace

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      Christian Graus wrote:

      Tawhidi is not a Muslim, let alone an Imam. He's a dumb bigot.

      You are a Sunni muslim arent you? There is no other reason you would hate a Shia Imam. That explains everything. When did you convert and what made you?

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      • M Munchies_Matt

        Eddy Vluggen wrote:

        And is a bit further from the nearest star.

        So you are now saying it is insolation that is behind surface temperature and not CO2?

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        Munchies_Matt wrote:

        So you are now saying

        No, thats you putting words in my mouth and twisting. You can build a greenhouse on Pluto, it will still be cold. Venus is not heated by its own mass.

        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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          Munchies_Matt wrote:

          So you are now saying

          No, thats you putting words in my mouth and twisting. You can build a greenhouse on Pluto, it will still be cold. Venus is not heated by its own mass.

          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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          Of course it isnt, it is heated by the sun. Why is it colder with altitude Eddy?

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            Of course it isnt, it is heated by the sun. Why is it colder with altitude Eddy?

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            Distance, not altitude. Also a lot less atmosphere, caused by the solar winds. If Venus did not have some magnetic field, it would have been stripped too.

            Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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              Distance, not altitude. Also a lot less atmosphere, caused by the solar winds. If Venus did not have some magnetic field, it would have been stripped too.

              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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              Of course solar radiation lessens with distance, I am asking you why it is colder with altitude. Why is it?

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              • C Christian Graus

                Hey Mike. I remember you being right wing enough to buy in to the Trump kool aide. How have you been? What's interesting to me about the right is that they either are stupid, or they are too dishonest to correctly state my views. I presume you're merely misinformed, so I'll clarify for you. AGW and it's harm on the earth is visible today. It's easy to see. But, either way, smart people believe experts over Alan Jones I believe there's been one incident of planes in buildings, over a decade ago. Either way, I've never met a person who suggests that Islamic terrorists are 'misunderstood angels', that's an example of the simple mindedness of the right. The Muslims must all be good, or all bad. The world can't have nuance. That's too confusing. Yes, refugees do have a right to live and a right to cross borders IF the country signed the refugee convention, they immediately present themselves to authorities and submit to processing, and prove their claims. This is in fact international law.

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                Christian Graus wrote:

                How have you been?

                Just fine...

                Christian Graus wrote:

                I remember you being right wing enough to buy in to the Trump kool aide.

                ...and I remember you being arrogant enough that you accuse anyone who doesn't believe the same exact crap as you of being stupid or lying. How have you been? ;P That being said I haven't drank the Trump "kool-aid". He's arrogant, bombastic and likes to exaggerate A LOT. I disagree with some of his policies. On the other hand, I agree with many of his policies and prefer him over Obama, Clinton or any of the current crop of leftist candidates.

                Christian Graus wrote:

                What's interesting to me about the right is that they either are stupid, or they are too dishonest to correctly state my views.

                Ummm... I wasn't stating your views - I was pointing out the opinions of some people on the fringe of a political view and presenting them as if everyone with that political view believed them. Just like you were doing... :rolleyes:

                Christian Graus wrote:

                I've never met a person who suggests that Islamic terrorists are 'misunderstood angels', that's an example of the simple mindedness of the right

                You need to get out more. I see plenty of people making excuses for all manner of atrocities.

                Christian Graus wrote:

                Yes, refugees do have a right to live

                Speaking of simple mindedness of the left... where did I or anyone claim otherwise?

                Christian Graus wrote:

                a right to cross borders IF the country signed the refugee convention, they immediately present themselves to authorities and submit to processing, and prove their claims. This is in fact international law.

                There is more to it than that. Being poor does not make someone a refugee. Refugees don't get to cross multiple borders (passing through perfectly good countries) to get to their preferred destination.

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                • M Munchies_Matt

                  Venus has a surface temperature of about 450 C It has a very slow rotation, about 80 earth days long. During that time the surface temperature does not vary. NOw what does that tell you about the surface temperature being driven by the greenhouse effect which starts with the surface being heated by the sun?

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                  Humans obviously originated on Venus, messed it up completely and moved to Earth where we are doing the same thing again. Sad really.

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                    Humans obviously originated on Venus, messed it up completely and moved to Earth where we are doing the same thing again. Sad really.

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                    :)

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                    • M Munchies_Matt

                      Of course solar radiation lessens with distance, I am asking you why it is colder with altitude. Why is it?

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                      Munchies_Matt wrote:

                      Of course solar radiation lessens with distance, I am asking you why it is colder with altitude.

                      It's not that it is less dangerous when travelling through a vacuum :) Earth has a decent magnetic field to not be stripped of atmosphere too much. Venus does something weird why it is mostly protected from the solar radiation. Mars is too small, but most of its atmosphere has been stripped away by the solar radiation.

                      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                        Munchies_Matt wrote:

                        Of course solar radiation lessens with distance, I am asking you why it is colder with altitude.

                        It's not that it is less dangerous when travelling through a vacuum :) Earth has a decent magnetic field to not be stripped of atmosphere too much. Venus does something weird why it is mostly protected from the solar radiation. Mars is too small, but most of its atmosphere has been stripped away by the solar radiation.

                        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                        Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                        Venus does something weird why it is mostly protected from the solar radiation

                        The voice of a true scientist. 'Something weird'

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                        • M Munchies_Matt

                          Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                          Venus does something weird why it is mostly protected from the solar radiation

                          The voice of a true scientist. 'Something weird'

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                          I'm not a scientist, just a fan of the scientific approach. "In 1967, Venera 4 found Venus's magnetic field to be much weaker than that of Earth. This magnetic field is induced by an interaction between the ionosphere and the solar wind,[88][89] rather than by an internal dynamo as in the Earth's core. Venus's small induced magnetosphere provides negligible protection to the atmosphere against cosmic radiation. " Wikipedia.

                          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                            I'm not a scientist, just a fan of the scientific approach. "In 1967, Venera 4 found Venus's magnetic field to be much weaker than that of Earth. This magnetic field is induced by an interaction between the ionosphere and the solar wind,[88][89] rather than by an internal dynamo as in the Earth's core. Venus's small induced magnetosphere provides negligible protection to the atmosphere against cosmic radiation. " Wikipedia.

                            Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                            GOogle Boyles law next.

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                            • M Munchies_Matt

                              GOogle Boyles law next.

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                              Learn to fakkin' read; in a "closed system". You're not pushing opinion, you don't have one.

                              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                Learn to fakkin' read; in a "closed system". You're not pushing opinion, you don't have one.

                                Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                Just read Boyles law of pressure and temperature.

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                                • J Jorgen Andersson

                                  Christian Graus wrote:

                                  how can democracy function?

                                  It doesn't, it's just better than all the alternatives we've tested. That's probably a quote of some kind BTW, I just can't be arsed to check.

                                  Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                                  Quote:

                                  "Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried."

                                  -Winston Churchill, 1947

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