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  • realJSOPR realJSOP

    It does, but democrats don't generally see it that way, again, because they haven't bothered to actually READ the Constitution. Booker wants a federally issued gun license. Licensing leads to registration, and registration leads to confiscation. Finally, confiscation leads to oppression and genocide. History lays it out for us (if we care to observe the lessons).

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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    #realJSOP wrote:

    It does

    You just admitted yourself it doesn't.

    #realJSOP wrote:

    democrats don't generally see it that way, again, because they haven't bothered to actually READ the Constitution

    Maybe they have? (see above)

    #realJSOP wrote:

    registration leads to confiscation

    Committing crimes already leads to confiscation.

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      #realJSOP wrote:

      It does

      You just admitted yourself it doesn't.

      #realJSOP wrote:

      democrats don't generally see it that way, again, because they haven't bothered to actually READ the Constitution

      Maybe they have? (see above)

      #realJSOP wrote:

      registration leads to confiscation

      Committing crimes already leads to confiscation.

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      ZurdoDev
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      F-ES Sitecore wrote:

      You just admitted yourself it doesn't.

      I don't see what you are seeing. :confused:

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      • L Lost User

        Ah there he is: [Rick Santorum: Kids Should Learn CPR Instead Of Rallying For Gun Laws - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1utdMrH0\_zE) suggesting kids should learn how to respond to a shooter :) I'm surprised there is no travel advisory for the US when republicans are in power.

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        Urban Cricket wrote:

        suggesting kids should learn how to respond to a shooter

        Are you suggesting they shouldn't know how? :confused: :wtf:

        Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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          Urban Cricket wrote:

          suggesting kids should learn how to respond to a shooter

          Are you suggesting they shouldn't know how? :confused: :wtf:

          Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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          They shouldn't HAVE to. He basically told them to shut up and learn how to survive. Good luck with your politicians.

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            They shouldn't HAVE to. He basically told them to shut up and learn how to survive. Good luck with your politicians.

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            Urban Cricket wrote:

            He basically told them to shut up and learn how to survive.

            That's not what I got out of it. You are exposing your bias and bigotry for everyone to see.

            Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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              Urban Cricket wrote:

              He basically told them to shut up and learn how to survive.

              That's not what I got out of it. You are exposing your bias and bigotry for everyone to see.

              Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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              When it comes to deadly toys you are damn right I'm bigoted and biased.

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                When it comes to deadly toys you are damn right I'm bigoted and biased.

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                ZurdoDev
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                Urban Cricket wrote:

                When it comes to deadly toys you are damn right I'm bigoted and biased.

                Right, so you twist what is said when it doesn't conform to what you want, just so you can spread hatred. Shame on you.

                Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                  Urban Cricket wrote:

                  When it comes to deadly toys you are damn right I'm bigoted and biased.

                  Right, so you twist what is said when it doesn't conform to what you want, just so you can spread hatred. Shame on you.

                  Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                  I may be bigoted, but in this case i didn't distort anything. Shame on you for lying.

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                  • L Lost User

                    I may be bigoted, but in this case i didn't distort anything. Shame on you for lying.

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                    ZurdoDev
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                    Urban Cricket wrote:

                    i didn't distort anything.

                    Sure you did. You claimed he said something he didn't. That is called lying.

                    Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      Cory Booker wants all gun owners to have a federal firearms license. My response - we already do, and it's called the 2nd Amendment. Of course, he would know that if he would take the time to actually *read* the Constitution.

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                      God, I don't miss the USA and it's idiocy. The 2nd amendment doesn't say you are allowed to have guns in your house. Australia had a gun buyback after a mass shooting. We've had no mass shootings for 20 years. How many does America have a week?

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                        Maybe he wants to put the well regulated in the "well regulated militia". What is well regulated anyway? It could be anything, per example mandating all firearms to be replaced with bubble guns.

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                        It means, first and foremost, that you're only allowed access to guns in the event of needing a militia. A concept that, in 2019, is a joke

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                          It means, first and foremost, that you're only allowed access to guns in the event of needing a militia. A concept that, in 2019, is a joke

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                          Yeah JSOP surely will pop in tomorrow to explain that militias are needed to protect him from the potential liberal commie tyranny. Or something to that effect :)

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                            Yeah JSOP surely will pop in tomorrow to explain that militias are needed to protect him from the potential liberal commie tyranny. Or something to that effect :)

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                            Christian Graus
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                            And clearly his home armoury is a challenge to the ability of the US Army to oppress him

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                              God, I don't miss the USA and it's idiocy. The 2nd amendment doesn't say you are allowed to have guns in your house. Australia had a gun buyback after a mass shooting. We've had no mass shootings for 20 years. How many does America have a week?

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                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              The 2nd amendment doesn't say you are allowed to have guns in your house.

                              So in your esteemed (yet inconsequential) opinion, what exactly do you think "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" means?

                              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                When it comes to deadly toys you are damn right I'm bigoted and biased.

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                                Guns aren't toys, but some toys are guns.

                                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                  And clearly his home armoury is a challenge to the ability of the US Army to oppress him

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                                  A bunch of cave dwellers in Afghanistan have successfully resisted/repelled both Russia and the US. Tell me again about how the US military can easily overpower unorganized militias with sub-standard weapons.

                                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                    Cory Booker wants all gun owners to have a federal firearms license. My response - we already do, and it's called the 2nd Amendment. Of course, he would know that if he would take the time to actually *read* the Constitution.

                                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                    -----
                                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                    While I'm not native English, in my reading the right to 'keep and bear' firearms is strictly connected to the necessity of state-level militia...

                                    "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018

                                    "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                                      While I'm not native English, in my reading the right to 'keep and bear' firearms is strictly connected to the necessity of state-level militia...

                                      "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018

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                                      No, the idea was that in order to form a capable militia, or to otherwise defend the Constitution, the people had the right to keep and bear arms. If the government is in charge of keeping the weapons, there are many vehicles that could be employed by the government, both inane and devious, with which to inhibit the arming of the people. To avoid this, the 2nd specifically says the people have the right to keep and bear. Even the SCOTUS has recognized that. Y'all can't win this argument.

                                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                        No, the idea was that in order to form a capable militia, or to otherwise defend the Constitution, the people had the right to keep and bear arms. If the government is in charge of keeping the weapons, there are many vehicles that could be employed by the government, both inane and devious, with which to inhibit the arming of the people. To avoid this, the 2nd specifically says the people have the right to keep and bear. Even the SCOTUS has recognized that. Y'all can't win this argument.

                                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                        -----
                                        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                        Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                                        I see... And as I see the problem is that you can grab a gun - to defend the Constitution - and shut everyone in your way to the grocery store... It is obvious that today the Constitution is no under attack, so let the Constitution decide if it needs defense and who should defend it... For now everyone can make himself a champion of Constitution... While I do understand, that those who used to a life that includes hunting and other gun-sports would not want to give it up - they should not! however the current state is that not only one can get arms freely, he also has not responsibility to keep it safe from the bad guys... And that's where it turns to the wrong direction - IMHO, one should have the right to keep arms as much as one wants, but take full responsibility for it. Means that if the gun has been stolen and used for bank robbery, the original owner has the responsibility to explain the why and when...

                                        "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018

                                        "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                                        • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                          I see... And as I see the problem is that you can grab a gun - to defend the Constitution - and shut everyone in your way to the grocery store... It is obvious that today the Constitution is no under attack, so let the Constitution decide if it needs defense and who should defend it... For now everyone can make himself a champion of Constitution... While I do understand, that those who used to a life that includes hunting and other gun-sports would not want to give it up - they should not! however the current state is that not only one can get arms freely, he also has not responsibility to keep it safe from the bad guys... And that's where it turns to the wrong direction - IMHO, one should have the right to keep arms as much as one wants, but take full responsibility for it. Means that if the gun has been stolen and used for bank robbery, the original owner has the responsibility to explain the why and when...

                                          "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018

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                                          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

                                          It is obvious that today the Constitution is no under attack

                                          The Constitution is under attack by those that are bound by it. It always has been.

                                          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

                                          let the Constitution decide if it needs defense and who should defend it...

                                          A document that protects the people from the government always needs protection, and the protectors of the Constitution are the people.

                                          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

                                          For now everyone can make himself a champion of Constitution.

                                          Everyone should be, but that's sadly not the case. This is mostly because the Constitution isn't being taught in school anymore.

                                          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

                                          While I do understand, that those who used to a life that includes hunting and other gun-sports

                                          The 2nd amendment isn't about "hunting and gun sports".

                                          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

                                          however the current state is that not only one can get arms freely, he also has not responsibility to keep it safe from the bad guys... And that's where it turns to the wrong direction - IMHO, one should have the right to keep arms as much as one wants, but take full responsibility for it. Means that if the gun has been stolen and used for bank robbery, the original owner has the responsibility to explain the why and when...

                                          I'm not going to get drawn into a discussion about "responsible gun ownership". We're talking about the 2nd Amendment.

                                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                          -----
                                          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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