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  • W W Balboos GHB

    Does anyone agree with me that Nike is really run by a bunch of assholes? If these[^] assail anyone's sensibilities about the era of slavery in US History then I have one additional suggestion for Nike and all those who revel in finding offense everywhere: don't y'all wear no cotton as it may remind you of dem ol' cotton fields a-back home. Apologies to other assholes for dragging them into this mess.

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    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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    Le centriste
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    People get offended so easily nowadays. Nike does not want to produce the shoes. So what? It is a free country, no?

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      People get offended so easily nowadays. Nike does not want to produce the shoes. So what? It is a free country, no?

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      W Balboos GHB
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      Nike's doing what they perceive will earn them the most money. That part of "free country" cannot be denied. However, consider, also, the cultural statement they make and your original premise

      Le centriste wrote:

      People get offended so easily nowadays.

      is now going to be the controlling factor of . . . everything? Apparently, however, some are allowed to offend all they want without consequences (Cortez, Omar, Tlaib, for examples). I guess it depends upon just who you offend. Some things never change (and that's the pity of it).

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      • W W Balboos GHB

        Nike's doing what they perceive will earn them the most money. That part of "free country" cannot be denied. However, consider, also, the cultural statement they make and your original premise

        Le centriste wrote:

        People get offended so easily nowadays.

        is now going to be the controlling factor of . . . everything? Apparently, however, some are allowed to offend all they want without consequences (Cortez, Omar, Tlaib, for examples). I guess it depends upon just who you offend. Some things never change (and that's the pity of it).

        Ravings en masse^

        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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        Le centriste
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        I am surprised no one was offended that the US flag was on a shoe. Does not that go against the flag code?

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        • L Le centriste

          I am surprised no one was offended that the US flag was on a shoe. Does not that go against the flag code?

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          W Balboos GHB
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          That type of stuff was overturned way back in the Vietnam era - making flags into clothing and such, for example. Free speech. The right wanted to limit it, the left wanted to abuse it. My take, as anecdote: A 'right-leaning' person was commenting "what do people in these communist countries think when they see an American burning an American flag?". My answer? They think "what a wonderful country where you can do such a thing and not be arrested and jailed."

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          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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          • W W Balboos GHB

            From the style of your answers, it appears you have found now answers - thus the possibility of an epiphany for you ! Just re-read the parts about the world cares hardly a dried shit about what either of us think but those given a platform from which to shout will find followers. For, example, in this case, Kapernick found you. Now just start to give it a good hard think, as explained by this[^], and determine where you let the wind blow.

            Ravings en masse^

            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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            Wow. Just wow. I state that this was a "reasonable decision for Nike to avoid corporate associations with neo-Nazis" and you - hysterically - suggest that this is a tipping point that will destroy democracy in the US. :rolleyes: Good grief. Your problems with Kapernick and AOC are irrelevant to this discussion.

            Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne

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              Wow. Just wow. I state that this was a "reasonable decision for Nike to avoid corporate associations with neo-Nazis" and you - hysterically - suggest that this is a tipping point that will destroy democracy in the US. :rolleyes: Good grief. Your problems with Kapernick and AOC are irrelevant to this discussion.

              Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne

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              W Balboos GHB
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              Rather Profoundly simpleminded to think that such events occur in isolation and without influence.

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              "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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              • W W Balboos GHB

                Rather Profoundly simpleminded to think that such events occur in isolation and without influence.

                Ravings en masse^

                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                Rather hysterical to see this as anything more than a tempest in a teacup.

                Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne

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                • L Le centriste

                  I am surprised no one was offended that the US flag was on a shoe. Does not that go against the flag code?

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                  That's the irony...even if it was the current American flag on the shoe the protest would not have been any less. People would still be offended. The only thing liberals hate more than capitalism is their own country.

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                    That's the irony...even if it was the current American flag on the shoe the protest would not have been any less. People would still be offended. The only thing liberals hate more than capitalism is their own country.

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                    Le centriste
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                    F-ES Sitecore wrote:

                    The only thing liberals hate more than capitalism is their own country.

                    That is completely false. But conservatives like to spread lies like that. They elected a champion liar as president.

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                      F-ES Sitecore wrote:

                      The only thing liberals hate more than capitalism is their own country.

                      That is completely false. But conservatives like to spread lies like that. They elected a champion liar as president.

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                      Troll level: 1 out of 5 Would not read again.

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                      • F F ES Sitecore

                        That's the irony...even if it was the current American flag on the shoe the protest would not have been any less. People would still be offended. The only thing liberals hate more than capitalism is their own country.

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                        W Balboos GHB
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                        Really - you should get the reality of this straight: The right is every bit as guilty of hating the US as you feel the are liberals. Remember - who brought us McCarthy-ism: an attack an so many of the very founding principles of our country. Always, of course, "for our protection". Both sided do the same thing - they just name it differently. Remember this: only a fool would die for our flag - because it "The Republic For Which it Stands" that is worthy of such risk and sacrifice. Every country's got a flag. Big fuckin' deal. BUT - not every country has a Constitution that is 'Of the People, By the People, For the People".* Everyone and I mean everyone has their excuses of why they wish to limit your liberties. The fact remains the same: if your loyalty to a party supersedes your willingness to criticize their faults - then you/we are doomed. (Yes - I know that's nearly 100 years afterwards).

                        Ravings en masse^

                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                        • L Le centriste

                          F-ES Sitecore wrote:

                          The only thing liberals hate more than capitalism is their own country.

                          That is completely false. But conservatives like to spread lies like that. They elected a champion liar as president.

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                          Le centriste wrote:

                          The only thing liberals hate more than capitalism is their own country.

                          That is completely false.

                          Are you sure? American Pride Hits New Low; Few Proud of Political System[^]

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                          22% of Democrats are extremely proud, down 10 points in one year

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                          most Republicans have remained extremely proud of their country, and the latest 76% reading is just 10 points below the high recorded in 2003.

                          The polls disagree with you. However, America is so great that even its haters won't leave. :laugh:

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                            Really - you should get the reality of this straight: The right is every bit as guilty of hating the US as you feel the are liberals. Remember - who brought us McCarthy-ism: an attack an so many of the very founding principles of our country. Always, of course, "for our protection". Both sided do the same thing - they just name it differently. Remember this: only a fool would die for our flag - because it "The Republic For Which it Stands" that is worthy of such risk and sacrifice. Every country's got a flag. Big fuckin' deal. BUT - not every country has a Constitution that is 'Of the People, By the People, For the People".* Everyone and I mean everyone has their excuses of why they wish to limit your liberties. The fact remains the same: if your loyalty to a party supersedes your willingness to criticize their faults - then you/we are doomed. (Yes - I know that's nearly 100 years afterwards).

                            Ravings en masse^

                            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                            ZurdoDev
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                            W∴ Balboos wrote:

                            The right is every bit as guilty of hating the US as you feel the are liberals.

                            You could not be more wrong. :doh: American Pride Hits New Low; Few Proud of Political System[^]

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                              W∴ Balboos wrote:

                              The right is every bit as guilty of hating the US as you feel the are liberals.

                              You could not be more wrong. :doh: American Pride Hits New Low; Few Proud of Political System[^]

                              Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                              When they push their views, particularly religious views, upon others around them - they violate one of the great principles upon which this country was founded.   They are destroying a supporting foundation of the greatness - and thus not only hate it but are its enemy. And, of course, those that want to buy an arsenal of weapons, hold up in some compound (in Idaho, perhaps?) and decide they don't have to live by the laws of the land - and got the weapons to defend the right to be separatists (how is that different, than, say, islamic seperatist anywhere else in the world?). Pick and choose amendments and rights for others? They hate this country. They want to make it into something else - and it's not into anything good - except of course for them.

                              Ravings en masse^

                              "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                              "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                              • W W Balboos GHB

                                When they push their views, particularly religious views, upon others around them - they violate one of the great principles upon which this country was founded.   They are destroying a supporting foundation of the greatness - and thus not only hate it but are its enemy. And, of course, those that want to buy an arsenal of weapons, hold up in some compound (in Idaho, perhaps?) and decide they don't have to live by the laws of the land - and got the weapons to defend the right to be separatists (how is that different, than, say, islamic seperatist anywhere else in the world?). Pick and choose amendments and rights for others? They hate this country. They want to make it into something else - and it's not into anything good - except of course for them.

                                Ravings en masse^

                                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                I disagree with everything. You seem to be very pessimistic on this subject. Although I wish there were a lot of things different in this country, I don't hate it.

                                W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                When they push their views, particularly religious views, upon others around them - they violate one of the great principles upon which this country was founded.

                                No, not at all. Christianity, for example, teaches we should not murder. I am not violating anyone's rights by outlawing murder and "pushing" that belief on others.

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                                  I disagree with everything. You seem to be very pessimistic on this subject. Although I wish there were a lot of things different in this country, I don't hate it.

                                  W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                  When they push their views, particularly religious views, upon others around them - they violate one of the great principles upon which this country was founded.

                                  No, not at all. Christianity, for example, teaches we should not murder. I am not violating anyone's rights by outlawing murder and "pushing" that belief on others.

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                                  ZurdoDev wrote:

                                  Christianity, for example, teaches we should not murder.

                                  chrisianities history is extraordinarily bloody and cruel. I suppose, if you do if for your church it doesn't count as murder.

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                                  • W W Balboos GHB

                                    ZurdoDev wrote:

                                    Christianity, for example, teaches we should not murder.

                                    chrisianities history is extraordinarily bloody and cruel. I suppose, if you do if for your church it doesn't count as murder.

                                    Ravings en masse^

                                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                    W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                    chrisianities Idiots claiming to be Christians history is extraordinarily bloody and cruel.

                                    FTFY

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                                      W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                      chrisianities Idiots claiming to be Christians history is extraordinarily bloody and cruel.

                                      FTFY

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                                      Perhaps it's time you look of the reality of what I can safely presume is your religion's core. I doubt you will - "hear no evil, speak no evil, see no evil" - and you can keep drawing those halo's around what historically is a gang of blood-thirsty thugs. Let's see - how did that right-wing mantra go? Oh, yes "kill a commie for christ". Warms the heart, doesn't it?

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                                        Le centriste wrote:

                                        The only thing liberals hate more than capitalism is their own country.

                                        That is completely false.

                                        Are you sure? American Pride Hits New Low; Few Proud of Political System[^]

                                        Quote:

                                        22% of Democrats are extremely proud, down 10 points in one year

                                        Quote:

                                        most Republicans have remained extremely proud of their country, and the latest 76% reading is just 10 points below the high recorded in 2003.

                                        The polls disagree with you. However, America is so great that even its haters won't leave. :laugh:

                                        Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                        Interesting report. Having only 22% of Democrats extremely proud does not mean the other 78% hate the country. One graphics show that only 5% of Democrats are not proud.

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                                        • W W Balboos GHB

                                          Perhaps it's time you look of the reality of what I can safely presume is your religion's core. I doubt you will - "hear no evil, speak no evil, see no evil" - and you can keep drawing those halo's around what historically is a gang of blood-thirsty thugs. Let's see - how did that right-wing mantra go? Oh, yes "kill a commie for christ". Warms the heart, doesn't it?

                                          Ravings en masse^

                                          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                          First off, you are WAY off topic here. I simply gave a simple example to prove your statement wrong. You then took that as an invitation to attack Christianity. Which I am fine with. You have your right to believe what you want and I can prove you wrong all day long.

                                          W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                          I can safely presume is your religion's core.

                                          Clearly it is not safe for you to presume anything. Are you suggesting I am wrong about my statement that it was not Christianity that was bloody but that it was idiots claiming to be Christians? If you disagree, what evidence do you have? Rather than go straight to juvenile insults, back something up.

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                                          "kill a commie for christ".

                                          Never even heard of that until now. Just proves that your assumptions about me are way off.

                                          Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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