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  • M Munchies_Matt

    Unless as I said China reduces its asking price to offset the tariffs, in which case it is paying.

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    Le centriste
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    They are not paying a dime to the US.

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    • M Munchies_Matt

      I know you kept your language, culture, religion etc. Does that make you feel repressed? Or are you referring to the British break up of the nice little monopoly a few French Canadian families had on Quebec? :)

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      Le centriste
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      Confirmed, you know nothing.

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      • L Le centriste

        They are not paying a dime to the US.

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        I have just clearly explained a away in which they could be. Dont you understand?

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        • L Le centriste

          Confirmed, you know nothing.

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          Munchies_Matt
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          So you dont speak French, dont eat 'xxx a la yyy' and arent Catholic? :)

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          • M Munchies_Matt

            I have just clearly explained a away in which they could be. Dont you understand?

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            Le centriste
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            Yes, but that is not what Trump claims, which is my point. Dont you understand?

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            • L Le centriste

              Yes, but that is not what Trump claims, which is my point. Dont you understand?

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              Munchies_Matt
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              So Trump isnt claiming China is paying the tariffs? :)

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              • M Munchies_Matt

                So you dont speak French, dont eat 'xxx a la yyy' and arent Catholic? :)

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                Le centriste
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                Oh, so you think the whole history of Quebec is "We invade you, but you can keep your culture. Aren't we nice people?". Between the invasion in 1759 and today, a lot has happened. If you look at old pictures of streets in Quebec you will see that almost everything is in English. People fought and died so we could keep our culture. Look at the Durham report and the union of Lower Canada (present-day Quebec) and Upper Canada (present-day Ontario). Also, look for Montreal rebellion. Things are even worst for French Canadians outside Quebec. Even nowadays, the Ontario government tries to undermine French culture. In 1997, it tried to close down the only Ontarian French hospital, a modern and excellent hospital. More recently, the Ford government defunded a French university project and cut funds used by French-speaking people to help them fight for their rights. To keep our culture, we had to instantiate a special bill to fight the invasion of English. Also, there is the "speak white" insult to French Canadians by English Canadians. Look it up.

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                • M Munchies_Matt

                  So Trump isnt claiming China is paying the tariffs? :)

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                  Le centriste
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                  Just read the link.

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                  • L Le centriste

                    Oh, so you think the whole history of Quebec is "We invade you, but you can keep your culture. Aren't we nice people?". Between the invasion in 1759 and today, a lot has happened. If you look at old pictures of streets in Quebec you will see that almost everything is in English. People fought and died so we could keep our culture. Look at the Durham report and the union of Lower Canada (present-day Quebec) and Upper Canada (present-day Ontario). Also, look for Montreal rebellion. Things are even worst for French Canadians outside Quebec. Even nowadays, the Ontario government tries to undermine French culture. In 1997, it tried to close down the only Ontarian French hospital, a modern and excellent hospital. More recently, the Ford government defunded a French university project and cut funds used by French-speaking people to help them fight for their rights. To keep our culture, we had to instantiate a special bill to fight the invasion of English. Also, there is the "speak white" insult to French Canadians by English Canadians. Look it up.

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                    So how come all the streets in Quebec have French names? Google Maps[^] :)

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                    People fought and died so we could keep our culture

                    The British didnt try stop you keeping it, so who were you fighting, each other? :) You were even allowed to keep your own civil law. Durham said that the French Canadians, pre revolution French, were very stuck in the past, in ancient habits, and old almost medieval mentalities. The presence of British culture, as modern as it was, as outward looking, progressive (slavery had been made illegal in Britain around 1770) was enough to make the French Canadian scared and incite him to violence. Look at South Africa. Dutch law, Dutch language almost everywhere, Dutch street names even in Capetown. Same thing, absolutely no attempt to repress the culture. They didnt kick off did they? Any problems you have had since independence are nothing to do with the British by the way. We havent governed you for what, over a century and a half? You cant blame us, blame yourselves. :)

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                    • L Le centriste

                      Just read the link.

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                      I did, it was facile and simplistic. As I showed you there is a way that China pays, by reducing its profit margin to offset the tariffs. The US gov is then taking money off China. China is paying.

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                      • M Munchies_Matt

                        So how come all the streets in Quebec have French names? Google Maps[^] :)

                        Le centriste wrote:

                        People fought and died so we could keep our culture

                        The British didnt try stop you keeping it, so who were you fighting, each other? :) You were even allowed to keep your own civil law. Durham said that the French Canadians, pre revolution French, were very stuck in the past, in ancient habits, and old almost medieval mentalities. The presence of British culture, as modern as it was, as outward looking, progressive (slavery had been made illegal in Britain around 1770) was enough to make the French Canadian scared and incite him to violence. Look at South Africa. Dutch law, Dutch language almost everywhere, Dutch street names even in Capetown. Same thing, absolutely no attempt to repress the culture. They didnt kick off did they? Any problems you have had since independence are nothing to do with the British by the way. We havent governed you for what, over a century and a half? You cant blame us, blame yourselves. :)

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                        Munchies_Matt wrote:

                        So how come all the streets in Quebec have French names?

                        They are certainly not all French. You confirm you know nothing about Quebec. Examples: Moncton, Fraser, Saunders, Aberdeen, Brown, Wolfe, Dufferin, Bishop, Crescent, and a lot more. Almost every town in the Eastern Townships have an English name.

                        Munchies_Matt wrote:

                        The British didnt try stop you keeping it, so who were you fighting, each other?

                        They did.

                        Munchies_Matt wrote:

                        The presence of British culture, as modern as it was, as outward looking, progressive (slavery had been made illegal in Britain around 1770) was enough to make the French Canadian scared and incite him to violence.

                        You are sooooooo wrong.

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                        • M Munchies_Matt

                          I did, it was facile and simplistic. As I showed you there is a way that China pays, by reducing its profit margin to offset the tariffs. The US gov is then taking money off China. China is paying.

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                          Le centriste
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                          What money? You are ignorant about tariff as much you are of the history of Canada.

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                          • L Le centriste

                            What money? You are ignorant about tariff as much you are of the history of Canada.

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                            Le centriste wrote:

                            What money

                            That foldy green paper stuff that changes hands when people buy a product? You know, that money?

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                              Munchies_Matt wrote:

                              So how come all the streets in Quebec have French names?

                              They are certainly not all French. You confirm you know nothing about Quebec. Examples: Moncton, Fraser, Saunders, Aberdeen, Brown, Wolfe, Dufferin, Bishop, Crescent, and a lot more. Almost every town in the Eastern Townships have an English name.

                              Munchies_Matt wrote:

                              The British didnt try stop you keeping it, so who were you fighting, each other?

                              They did.

                              Munchies_Matt wrote:

                              The presence of British culture, as modern as it was, as outward looking, progressive (slavery had been made illegal in Britain around 1770) was enough to make the French Canadian scared and incite him to violence.

                              You are sooooooo wrong.

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                              Le centriste wrote:

                              They are certainly not all French

                              I gave yo a link to google maps, I am finding it hard to see one single English name. And we have Montpelier Street, Beauchamp Place and Cheval Place in London, and towns such as Ashby de la Zouche, Fern la Chapelle etc, we arent getting all angry about it though. :)

                              Le centriste wrote:

                              You are sooooooo wrong

                              You told me to look at the Durham report, this is what it says.

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                                Le centriste wrote:

                                What money

                                That foldy green paper stuff that changes hands when people buy a product? You know, that money?

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                                Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                That foldy green paper stuff that changes hands when people buy a product?

                                Oh, I got it!! That green paper stuff that China is not giving to the USA because of tariff.

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                                • L Le centriste

                                  Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                  That foldy green paper stuff that changes hands when people buy a product?

                                  Oh, I got it!! That green paper stuff that China is not giving to the USA because of tariff.

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                                  What part of 'China charges less for its product to offset US tariffs' is confusing you?

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                                  • M Munchies_Matt

                                    Le centriste wrote:

                                    They are certainly not all French

                                    I gave yo a link to google maps, I am finding it hard to see one single English name. And we have Montpelier Street, Beauchamp Place and Cheval Place in London, and towns such as Ashby de la Zouche, Fern la Chapelle etc, we arent getting all angry about it though. :)

                                    Le centriste wrote:

                                    You are sooooooo wrong

                                    You told me to look at the Durham report, this is what it says.

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                                    Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                    gave yo a link to google maps, I am finding it hard to see one single English name.

                                    [Google Maps](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Avenue+Moncton,+Québec,+QC/@46.8006118,-71.2352553,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x4cb8967d8a29a075:0xa165a6ff334132a7!8m2!3d46.8006081!4d-71.2330666)

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                                    • M Munchies_Matt

                                      What part of 'China charges less for its product to offset US tariffs' is confusing you?

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                                      Le centriste
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                                      That is not the same as giving money to the USA, as Trump claims. It is the US importers and customers that pay for the tariff. Could you provide me a link to confirm your claim? I tried to look it up, did not find anything.

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                                      • L Le centriste

                                        Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                        gave yo a link to google maps, I am finding it hard to see one single English name.

                                        [Google Maps](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Avenue+Moncton,+Québec,+QC/@46.8006118,-71.2352553,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x4cb8967d8a29a075:0xa165a6ff334132a7!8m2!3d46.8006081!4d-71.2330666)

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                                        Munchies_Matt
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                                        I would be surprised if there werent any, as I said though, there are plenty of French names in England, we dont get upset about it though. Dont you think this is really a problem the French have, and particularly pre-revolutionary French, and in fact nothing to do with the acts of the British, because lets face it, South Africa didnt have these problems, with the self same British...

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                                        • L Le centriste

                                          That is not the same as giving money to the USA, as Trump claims. It is the US importers and customers that pay for the tariff. Could you provide me a link to confirm your claim? I tried to look it up, did not find anything.

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                                          Er, yes it is. And I am not saying this is what is happening, but it is one way that tariffs can result in a transfer of money from the supplier to the tariff imposer.

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