Dontcha just love the way...
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Dont forget in the US the treaty the British had with the natives stopped the possession and exploitation of that native land. This was one of the many reasons the Bostonians fomented a rebellion. I am not saying the British always did it right, but it did things far better than any other European colonial power (And I heard this from a Cote d'Ivoire native, a black guy, who knew just how much they suffered under the French). France was a threat to Britains global trade. We kicked its arse, many many times, including taking Canada off them. :)
Munchies_Matt wrote:
We kicked its arse, many many times, including taking Canada off them
We can still feel it today.
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Yeah, I agree, mostly, but it's not always possible as you noted.
#SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
Do you allow me to frame this answer. It is not every day you agree with me ;)
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So there is zero import duty on goods made in China being imported to the US?
Munchies_Matt wrote:
So there is zero import duty on goods made in China being imported to the US?
They are not paid by China, but by US importers and customers. I am not really against tariffs, but lying to Americans saying that China is paying them is unacceptable.
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Do you allow me to frame this answer. It is not every day you agree with me ;)
:thumbsup: :laugh:
#SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
We kicked its arse, many many times, including taking Canada off them
We can still feel it today.
Nah, you cant. We left you keep your language and religion didnt we, your culture and cuisine. We didnt force you to change, like so many other colonial powers insisted on.
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
So there is zero import duty on goods made in China being imported to the US?
They are not paid by China, but by US importers and customers. I am not really against tariffs, but lying to Americans saying that China is paying them is unacceptable.
I didnt say they were paid by China, I said they were levied on Chinese goods, but there is of course a cost to China in that, which is the point of levies, and in that Trump is correct. China either loses market share or sales for lower profit, if the latter, the difference goes to the US coffers.
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I didnt say they were paid by China, I said they were levied on Chinese goods, but there is of course a cost to China in that, which is the point of levies, and in that Trump is correct. China either loses market share or sales for lower profit, if the latter, the difference goes to the US coffers.
[Donald J. Trump on Twitter: "For 10 months, China has been paying Tariffs to the USA of 25% on 50 Billion Dollars of High Tech, and 10% on 200 Billion Dollars of other goods. These payments are partially responsible for our great economic results. Th](https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1125069835044573186?lang=en) Trump is wrong, China is not paying tariffs. They may suffer from them, but tariffs are paid by Americans.
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Nah, you cant. We left you keep your language and religion didnt we, your culture and cuisine. We didnt force you to change, like so many other colonial powers insisted on.
You know nothing about what happened here.
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[Donald J. Trump on Twitter: "For 10 months, China has been paying Tariffs to the USA of 25% on 50 Billion Dollars of High Tech, and 10% on 200 Billion Dollars of other goods. These payments are partially responsible for our great economic results. Th](https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1125069835044573186?lang=en) Trump is wrong, China is not paying tariffs. They may suffer from them, but tariffs are paid by Americans.
Unless as I said China reduces its asking price to offset the tariffs, in which case it is paying.
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You know nothing about what happened here.
I know you kept your language, culture, religion etc. Does that make you feel repressed? Or are you referring to the British break up of the nice little monopoly a few French Canadian families had on Quebec? :)
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Unless as I said China reduces its asking price to offset the tariffs, in which case it is paying.
They are not paying a dime to the US.
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Unless as I said China reduces its asking price to offset the tariffs, in which case it is paying.
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I know you kept your language, culture, religion etc. Does that make you feel repressed? Or are you referring to the British break up of the nice little monopoly a few French Canadian families had on Quebec? :)
Confirmed, you know nothing.
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They are not paying a dime to the US.
I have just clearly explained a away in which they could be. Dont you understand?
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Confirmed, you know nothing.
So you dont speak French, dont eat 'xxx a la yyy' and arent Catholic? :)
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I have just clearly explained a away in which they could be. Dont you understand?
Yes, but that is not what Trump claims, which is my point. Dont you understand?
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Yes, but that is not what Trump claims, which is my point. Dont you understand?
So Trump isnt claiming China is paying the tariffs? :)
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So you dont speak French, dont eat 'xxx a la yyy' and arent Catholic? :)
Oh, so you think the whole history of Quebec is "We invade you, but you can keep your culture. Aren't we nice people?". Between the invasion in 1759 and today, a lot has happened. If you look at old pictures of streets in Quebec you will see that almost everything is in English. People fought and died so we could keep our culture. Look at the Durham report and the union of Lower Canada (present-day Quebec) and Upper Canada (present-day Ontario). Also, look for Montreal rebellion. Things are even worst for French Canadians outside Quebec. Even nowadays, the Ontario government tries to undermine French culture. In 1997, it tried to close down the only Ontarian French hospital, a modern and excellent hospital. More recently, the Ford government defunded a French university project and cut funds used by French-speaking people to help them fight for their rights. To keep our culture, we had to instantiate a special bill to fight the invasion of English. Also, there is the "speak white" insult to French Canadians by English Canadians. Look it up.
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So Trump isnt claiming China is paying the tariffs? :)
Just read the link.
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Oh, so you think the whole history of Quebec is "We invade you, but you can keep your culture. Aren't we nice people?". Between the invasion in 1759 and today, a lot has happened. If you look at old pictures of streets in Quebec you will see that almost everything is in English. People fought and died so we could keep our culture. Look at the Durham report and the union of Lower Canada (present-day Quebec) and Upper Canada (present-day Ontario). Also, look for Montreal rebellion. Things are even worst for French Canadians outside Quebec. Even nowadays, the Ontario government tries to undermine French culture. In 1997, it tried to close down the only Ontarian French hospital, a modern and excellent hospital. More recently, the Ford government defunded a French university project and cut funds used by French-speaking people to help them fight for their rights. To keep our culture, we had to instantiate a special bill to fight the invasion of English. Also, there is the "speak white" insult to French Canadians by English Canadians. Look it up.
So how come all the streets in Quebec have French names? Google Maps[^] :)
Le centriste wrote:
People fought and died so we could keep our culture
The British didnt try stop you keeping it, so who were you fighting, each other? :) You were even allowed to keep your own civil law. Durham said that the French Canadians, pre revolution French, were very stuck in the past, in ancient habits, and old almost medieval mentalities. The presence of British culture, as modern as it was, as outward looking, progressive (slavery had been made illegal in Britain around 1770) was enough to make the French Canadian scared and incite him to violence. Look at South Africa. Dutch law, Dutch language almost everywhere, Dutch street names even in Capetown. Same thing, absolutely no attempt to repress the culture. They didnt kick off did they? Any problems you have had since independence are nothing to do with the British by the way. We havent governed you for what, over a century and a half? You cant blame us, blame yourselves. :)