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  • D dan sh

    You do realize this is 2019 not 2000 or 2017. He mentioned there was a decline but not anymore.

    "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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    Munchies_Matt
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    DO you expect the line to be flat? Of course it will vary, up and down, but using one years trend and screaming about an increase when the long term trend is down massively is called what? Yes, BULLSHIT is the answer.

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      Munchies_Matt wrote:

      it is actually grass burning, or old crops. We do this in the UK too every year.

      That was banned years ago: Lincolnshire farmer defies stubble burning ban - BBC News[^].

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      Oh yeah, havent lived in the UK for a while. It was after that crash wasnt it. Anyway, irrelevant, stubble burning is still an agricultural practice: Stubble burning - Wikipedia[^]

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        Oh yeah, havent lived in the UK for a while. It was after that crash wasnt it. Anyway, irrelevant, stubble burning is still an agricultural practice: Stubble burning - Wikipedia[^]

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        I thought you lived in the west country, farming land.

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          I thought you lived in the west country, farming land.

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          Munchies_Matt
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          I do now, but was abroad for a long time.

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            DO you expect the line to be flat? Of course it will vary, up and down, but using one years trend and screaming about an increase when the long term trend is down massively is called what? Yes, BULLSHIT is the answer.

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            dan sh
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            You posted one image from a site called mongabay.com. If I go to their own website, there are articles talking about deforestation problem.

            "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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            • D dan sh

              You posted one image from a site called mongabay.com. If I go to their own website, there are articles talking about deforestation problem.

              "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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              Munchies_Matt
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              :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Dear oh dear. Deforestation is massively reduced since 2000. Yes? DO you see the facts, can you see the graph, can it get through your agenda bias at all?

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                :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Dear oh dear. Deforestation is massively reduced since 2000. Yes? DO you see the facts, can you see the graph, can it get through your agenda bias at all?

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                dan sh
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                Munchies_Matt wrote:

                Deforestation is massively since 2000

                Massively what?

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                • D dan sh

                  Munchies_Matt wrote:

                  Deforestation is massively since 2000

                  Massively what?

                  "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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                  Munchies_Matt
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                  reduced

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                    reduced

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                    dan sh
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                    Is the current trend going up or down?

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                    • D dan sh

                      Is the current trend going up or down?

                      "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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                      Munchies_Matt
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                      Just pathetic. You cant accept the trend since 2000 is down, you are obsessed with a few months data showing an increase (yeah, it always increases in summer, it is a seasonal thing. It could well be decreasing already, since we are at the end of august) You cant accept that the amazon was in the past largely savanna and supported a population of millions, and you cant accept that a lot of the burning is not forest, but farmland, as is common throughout the world. Instead you are going to look at a few months of data and run around screaming like a little baby that the sky is falling. If it wasnt so sad it would be laughable.

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                        Just pathetic. You cant accept the trend since 2000 is down, you are obsessed with a few months data showing an increase (yeah, it always increases in summer, it is a seasonal thing. It could well be decreasing already, since we are at the end of august) You cant accept that the amazon was in the past largely savanna and supported a population of millions, and you cant accept that a lot of the burning is not forest, but farmland, as is common throughout the world. Instead you are going to look at a few months of data and run around screaming like a little baby that the sky is falling. If it wasnt so sad it would be laughable.

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                        dan sh
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                        Munchies_Matt wrote:

                        You cant accept the trend since 2000 is down

                        Munchies_Matt wrote:

                        ou cant accept that the amazon was in the past largely savanna and supported a population of millions, and you cant accept that a lot of the burning is not forest, but farmland, as is common throughout the world.

                        When did I say any of that?

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                        • D dan sh

                          Munchies_Matt wrote:

                          You cant accept the trend since 2000 is down

                          Munchies_Matt wrote:

                          ou cant accept that the amazon was in the past largely savanna and supported a population of millions, and you cant accept that a lot of the burning is not forest, but farmland, as is common throughout the world.

                          When did I say any of that?

                          "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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                          Munchies_Matt
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                          It is implicit in your arguing.

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                            It is implicit in your arguing.

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                            dan sh
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                            These are your assumptions and they are wrong. Now, if you can keep aside your current assumptions and do not assume more, one can have a discussion. From the source website in your first post, I see this article.

                            Deforestation in the Brazilian Amazon has been trending upward since bottoming out in 2012 at 4,571 square kilometers (1,765 square miles), but the issue didn’t get a lot of public attention until this week, when the skies of São Paulo, one the world’s largest cities, were blackened midday by smoke from the fires. The shocking descent into darkness prompted an outpouring of concern across social media, with the #PrayforAmazonas hashtag garnering more than 300,000 tweets in two days.

                            Article link[^] Do read complete article and put aside any assumptions that you develop before response.

                            "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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                              These are your assumptions and they are wrong. Now, if you can keep aside your current assumptions and do not assume more, one can have a discussion. From the source website in your first post, I see this article.

                              Deforestation in the Brazilian Amazon has been trending upward since bottoming out in 2012 at 4,571 square kilometers (1,765 square miles), but the issue didn’t get a lot of public attention until this week, when the skies of São Paulo, one the world’s largest cities, were blackened midday by smoke from the fires. The shocking descent into darkness prompted an outpouring of concern across social media, with the #PrayforAmazonas hashtag garnering more than 300,000 tweets in two days.

                              Article link[^] Do read complete article and put aside any assumptions that you develop before response.

                              "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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                              lw@zi wrote:

                              Deforestation in the Brazilian Amazon has been trending upward since bottoming out in 2012

                              If you choose an outlier then you can always find a trend you want. You can also say it is down since 2016, but the fact is it is relatively flat after its massive decline in the early 2000s. You people, really, you are so laughable.

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                                lw@zi wrote:

                                Deforestation in the Brazilian Amazon has been trending upward since bottoming out in 2012

                                If you choose an outlier then you can always find a trend you want. You can also say it is down since 2016, but the fact is it is relatively flat after its massive decline in the early 2000s. You people, really, you are so laughable.

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                                What about this? [Amazon deforestation at highest level in 10 years, says Brazil](https://news.mongabay.com/2018/11/amazon-deforestation-at-highest-level-in-10-years-says-brazil/)

                                "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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                                  lw@zi wrote:

                                  Deforestation in the Brazilian Amazon has been trending upward since bottoming out in 2012

                                  If you choose an outlier then you can always find a trend you want. You can also say it is down since 2016, but the fact is it is relatively flat after its massive decline in the early 2000s. You people, really, you are so laughable.

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                                  Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                  If you choose an outlier then you can always find a trend you want.

                                  Does it not apply to you as well?

                                  "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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                                  • D dan sh

                                    What about this? [Amazon deforestation at highest level in 10 years, says Brazil](https://news.mongabay.com/2018/11/amazon-deforestation-at-highest-level-in-10-years-says-brazil/)

                                    "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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                                    Munchies_Matt
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                                    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Er, yes, 10 years is SINCE 2000...

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                                    • D dan sh

                                      Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                      If you choose an outlier then you can always find a trend you want.

                                      Does it not apply to you as well?

                                      "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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                                      Munchies_Matt
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                                      No, because I am looking at the big picture.

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                                      • M Munchies_Matt

                                        :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Er, yes, 10 years is SINCE 2000...

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                                        dan sh
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                                        Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                        As it turns out deforestation has decline massively since 2000: https://imgs.mongabay.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/2015/05/03204742/amazon-deforestation-brazil-1988-present.png\[^\] this is 1988 to 2017, the big drop starting around 2000

                                        You said it is declining since 2000. I post from same website stating it is increasing since 2000 which you agree. What is your point?

                                        "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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                                        • D dan sh

                                          Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                          As it turns out deforestation has decline massively since 2000: https://imgs.mongabay.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/2015/05/03204742/amazon-deforestation-brazil-1988-present.png\[^\] this is 1988 to 2017, the big drop starting around 2000

                                          You said it is declining since 2000. I post from same website stating it is increasing since 2000 which you agree. What is your point?

                                          "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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                                          Munchies_Matt
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                                          Amazon deforestation at highest level in 10 years, says Brazil[^] Early 2000s, about 20,000 sq km a year, last few years about 7,000. That is about a third. I am sure you see the point, you would have to be thick as shit to not see it of course.

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