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do any of you others have little coding mantras that save your behind?

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  • H honey the codewitch

    One of mine is - when dealing with IComparable in .NET "Greater than is less than" What it means is Converting

    if(10>5);

    to IComparable it reads

    if(0<10.CompareTo(5));

    Note '>' vs '<'

    When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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    David ONeil
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    If you can't find a way to keep your logic nested <= three levels deep, find another profession or project, because you certainly don't want to be the one to debug that sucker. A function is an acceptable solution.

    The forgotten roots of science | C++ Programming | DWinLib

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      If you can't find a way to keep your logic nested <= three levels deep, find another profession or project, because you certainly don't want to be the one to debug that sucker. A function is an acceptable solution.

      The forgotten roots of science | C++ Programming | DWinLib

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      honey the codewitch
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      I think it depends on the logic, and should be amended to non-trivial logic, because I wouldn't count things like null checks - validation - that sort of thing, unless they're convoluted. But that's me, and it served me well enough. Usually my debugger problems are complicated. I almost never actually debug. I Ctrl+F5 in visual studio and I either get the expected result, or usually I know where I went wrong because I develop very iteratively.

      When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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      • H honey the codewitch

        only twice? I find a bout of analysis paralysis followed by headdesking a few times is really the way to go. :laugh:

        When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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        Rick York
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        It's a metaphorical twice as in more than once. Although I have found sometimes just taking a shot in the dark can be useful if you can learn from failure.

        "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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        • R Rick York

          It's a metaphorical twice as in more than once. Although I have found sometimes just taking a shot in the dark can be useful if you can learn from failure.

          "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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          honey the codewitch
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          I hear you. I just did that. But I learned from success. I mean, I was working from some sample code, in C++, on implementing B+ trees, but I ported it to C# and then rewrote it using .NETisms and adding features. Then I realized it was almost pointless without a little database system going with it because it only optimized situations where nodes are directly tied to disk access. On the other hand, I did the same thing with the regular B tree and it worked flawlessly, and is useful as an in-memory autobalancing tree structure (inserts and deletions are slow, searches are very fast and consistent - every search takes the same number of comparisons) so woo. but i guess someone already implemented one here. Not sure how mine stacks up, but it works.

          When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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          • H honey the codewitch

            One of mine is - when dealing with IComparable in .NET "Greater than is less than" What it means is Converting

            if(10>5);

            to IComparable it reads

            if(0<10.CompareTo(5));

            Note '>' vs '<'

            When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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            Member 9167057
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            Something similar: Never compare floats for equality. It may bite sooner than later.

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            • H honey the codewitch

              One of mine is - when dealing with IComparable in .NET "Greater than is less than" What it means is Converting

              if(10>5);

              to IComparable it reads

              if(0<10.CompareTo(5));

              Note '>' vs '<'

              When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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              xtofl
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              * How would I explain this code to the cleaning personnel * If you can explain how it's done, you can script it

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              • H honey the codewitch

                One of mine is - when dealing with IComparable in .NET "Greater than is less than" What it means is Converting

                if(10>5);

                to IComparable it reads

                if(0<10.CompareTo(5));

                Note '>' vs '<'

                When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                Richard Deeming
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                Another reason to avoid "Yoda conditionals":

                if (10 > 5)
                if (10.CompareTo(5) > 0)

                :)


                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                • H honey the codewitch

                  One of mine is - when dealing with IComparable in .NET "Greater than is less than" What it means is Converting

                  if(10>5);

                  to IComparable it reads

                  if(0<10.CompareTo(5));

                  Note '>' vs '<'

                  When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                  S Houghtelin
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                  My mantra is "Dammit! Dammit! Dammit!". Way back when learning C, to help me remember to add the extra equal sign when writing a conditional statement as opposed to an assignment I would say "Equals to" and press the equal sign == for each word and to say "Equals" and only hit the equal = sign once for assigning a value.

                  It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                  • H honey the codewitch

                    One of mine is - when dealing with IComparable in .NET "Greater than is less than" What it means is Converting

                    if(10>5);

                    to IComparable it reads

                    if(0<10.CompareTo(5));

                    Note '>' vs '<'

                    When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                    "Developers may come and go, but bugs will stay forever"

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                    • M Member 9167057

                      Something similar: Never compare floats for equality. It may bite sooner than later.

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                      Gary Wheeler
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                      Yep. Been there, done that, got the scars on my back from self-flagellation for trying it.

                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                      • R Rick York

                        Think twice, write once.

                        "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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                        Kent K
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                        Similar to the woodworking saying - measure twice, cut once.

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                        • H honey the codewitch

                          One of mine is - when dealing with IComparable in .NET "Greater than is less than" What it means is Converting

                          if(10>5);

                          to IComparable it reads

                          if(0<10.CompareTo(5));

                          Note '>' vs '<'

                          When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                          Slow Eddie
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                          Mine applies to date comparisons. "Later is greater"

                          Steady Eddie (for those that never saw "The Hustler")

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                          • H honey the codewitch

                            One of mine is - when dealing with IComparable in .NET "Greater than is less than" What it means is Converting

                            if(10>5);

                            to IComparable it reads

                            if(0<10.CompareTo(5));

                            Note '>' vs '<'

                            When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                            decaffeinatedMonkey
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                            "Check the plugs." Plugs being any of the following: - connection strings - method parameters - app settings "F5 and pray" Let-er rip and see what happens. Don't be afraid. 😁 I usually say a short prayer as my coffee is compiling / starting up.

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                            • H honey the codewitch

                              One of mine is - when dealing with IComparable in .NET "Greater than is less than" What it means is Converting

                              if(10>5);

                              to IComparable it reads

                              if(0<10.CompareTo(5));

                              Note '>' vs '<'

                              When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                              agolddog
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                              Don't solve problems which don't actually exist. Like anything, this must be used in moderation. If there's a good, easy-to-understand abstraction you can implement which isn't required today , but you can see an obvious business case for it coming, go ahead. At the same time, be careful of overengineering just because you thought of some possible, but unlikely, abstraction. Design your code in such a way that can be implemented when the problem actually becomes something to solve.

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                              • M Member 9167057

                                Something similar: Never compare floats for equality. It may bite sooner than later.

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                                kalberts
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                                That is also one of the mantras I preached when teaching programming. But even though we had been teaching the kids about limited precision, it was very difficut for the to understand that "if ((1/3)*3 == 1)" could fail. (Except that if you really used constants, or compile-time-evaluated expressions, an optimizing compiler might remove the entire "if".) Students often have a vague understanding of terms like "integer" and "float" (or "real"). So I preferred to refer to them as "counts" and "measurements". That made it a lot easier for them to understand how both integers and floats behave in the computer. One of the great details of the APL language is the environment variable quadFUZZ (if my memory of the name is correct): When comparing floats, if the difference is less than quadFUZZ, the values are treated as equal. (I belive that the fuzz was actually scaled by the actual float value, so it was a realative, not absolute tolerance, but I am not sure - APL is too long ago!)

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                                • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                  Another reason to avoid "Yoda conditionals":

                                  if (10 > 5)
                                  if (10.CompareTo(5) > 0)

                                  :)


                                  "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                                  honey the codewitch
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                                  one of those looks like a bug.

                                  When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                                    My mantra is "Dammit! Dammit! Dammit!". Way back when learning C, to help me remember to add the extra equal sign when writing a conditional statement as opposed to an assignment I would say "Equals to" and press the equal sign == for each word and to say "Equals" and only hit the equal = sign once for assigning a value.

                                    It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                                    kalberts
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                                    One of the reasons that I miss Pascal. Both the double == and the paretheses requirements.

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                                      That is also one of the mantras I preached when teaching programming. But even though we had been teaching the kids about limited precision, it was very difficut for the to understand that "if ((1/3)*3 == 1)" could fail. (Except that if you really used constants, or compile-time-evaluated expressions, an optimizing compiler might remove the entire "if".) Students often have a vague understanding of terms like "integer" and "float" (or "real"). So I preferred to refer to them as "counts" and "measurements". That made it a lot easier for them to understand how both integers and floats behave in the computer. One of the great details of the APL language is the environment variable quadFUZZ (if my memory of the name is correct): When comparing floats, if the difference is less than quadFUZZ, the values are treated as equal. (I belive that the fuzz was actually scaled by the actual float value, so it was a realative, not absolute tolerance, but I am not sure - APL is too long ago!)

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                                      Member 9167057
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                                      Oddly enough, I can't remember any problems you're talking about from my own experience. And I am not even a programmer by trade, I've studied physics and programming was a side-gig at first. To me, integer numbers are exact and floats are, as it's impossible to represent arbitrary numbers with discrete values, approximations. They may be good enough for daily use, but they may fail and when they do, they fail. Maybe that's why I didn't have any problems, the concept of approximations is deeply nested in a physicist's mind. Well, that and I've recently built a system which used integer for it's measurement values (mostly because the sensor returns integers by the value of 0,01°C). So your vocabulary would have spectacularily failed me :D

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                                      • M Member 9167057

                                        Something similar: Never compare floats for equality. It may bite sooner than later.

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                                        Peter R Fletcher
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                                        Don't compare datetimes for equality, either, particularly if they don't all come from the same 'source'.

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                                          Don't compare datetimes for equality, either, particularly if they don't all come from the same 'source'.

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                                          Member 9167057
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                                          That, on the other hand, may work just fine. Depends on the language/runtime library and the source of the dates, but when I want to know if some date is today, equality works. Again, assuming the runtime library helps and you know what you're doing. There's a reason why TheDailyWTF has a couple stories on mishandling time stamps. I suppose, we could amend "Don't run home-built date/time handling" to the list of useful mantras. There's heap tons of ways to get them wrong and even if you test all you can, it may fail when a leap year occurs.

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