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do any of you others have little coding mantras that save your behind?

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  • H honey the codewitch

    only twice? I find a bout of analysis paralysis followed by headdesking a few times is really the way to go. :laugh:

    When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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    Rick York
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    It's a metaphorical twice as in more than once. Although I have found sometimes just taking a shot in the dark can be useful if you can learn from failure.

    "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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    • R Rick York

      It's a metaphorical twice as in more than once. Although I have found sometimes just taking a shot in the dark can be useful if you can learn from failure.

      "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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      honey the codewitch
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      I hear you. I just did that. But I learned from success. I mean, I was working from some sample code, in C++, on implementing B+ trees, but I ported it to C# and then rewrote it using .NETisms and adding features. Then I realized it was almost pointless without a little database system going with it because it only optimized situations where nodes are directly tied to disk access. On the other hand, I did the same thing with the regular B tree and it worked flawlessly, and is useful as an in-memory autobalancing tree structure (inserts and deletions are slow, searches are very fast and consistent - every search takes the same number of comparisons) so woo. but i guess someone already implemented one here. Not sure how mine stacks up, but it works.

      When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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      • H honey the codewitch

        One of mine is - when dealing with IComparable in .NET "Greater than is less than" What it means is Converting

        if(10>5);

        to IComparable it reads

        if(0<10.CompareTo(5));

        Note '>' vs '<'

        When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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        Member 9167057
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        Something similar: Never compare floats for equality. It may bite sooner than later.

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        • H honey the codewitch

          One of mine is - when dealing with IComparable in .NET "Greater than is less than" What it means is Converting

          if(10>5);

          to IComparable it reads

          if(0<10.CompareTo(5));

          Note '>' vs '<'

          When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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          xtofl
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          * How would I explain this code to the cleaning personnel * If you can explain how it's done, you can script it

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          • H honey the codewitch

            One of mine is - when dealing with IComparable in .NET "Greater than is less than" What it means is Converting

            if(10>5);

            to IComparable it reads

            if(0<10.CompareTo(5));

            Note '>' vs '<'

            When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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            Richard Deeming
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            Another reason to avoid "Yoda conditionals":

            if (10 > 5)
            if (10.CompareTo(5) > 0)

            :)


            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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            • H honey the codewitch

              One of mine is - when dealing with IComparable in .NET "Greater than is less than" What it means is Converting

              if(10>5);

              to IComparable it reads

              if(0<10.CompareTo(5));

              Note '>' vs '<'

              When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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              S Houghtelin
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              My mantra is "Dammit! Dammit! Dammit!". Way back when learning C, to help me remember to add the extra equal sign when writing a conditional statement as opposed to an assignment I would say "Equals to" and press the equal sign == for each word and to say "Equals" and only hit the equal = sign once for assigning a value.

              It was broke, so I fixed it.

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              • H honey the codewitch

                One of mine is - when dealing with IComparable in .NET "Greater than is less than" What it means is Converting

                if(10>5);

                to IComparable it reads

                if(0<10.CompareTo(5));

                Note '>' vs '<'

                When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                User 12228503
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                "Developers may come and go, but bugs will stay forever"

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                • M Member 9167057

                  Something similar: Never compare floats for equality. It may bite sooner than later.

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                  Gary Wheeler
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                  Yep. Been there, done that, got the scars on my back from self-flagellation for trying it.

                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                  • R Rick York

                    Think twice, write once.

                    "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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                    Kent K
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                    Similar to the woodworking saying - measure twice, cut once.

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                    • H honey the codewitch

                      One of mine is - when dealing with IComparable in .NET "Greater than is less than" What it means is Converting

                      if(10>5);

                      to IComparable it reads

                      if(0<10.CompareTo(5));

                      Note '>' vs '<'

                      When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                      Slow Eddie
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                      Mine applies to date comparisons. "Later is greater"

                      Steady Eddie (for those that never saw "The Hustler")

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                      • H honey the codewitch

                        One of mine is - when dealing with IComparable in .NET "Greater than is less than" What it means is Converting

                        if(10>5);

                        to IComparable it reads

                        if(0<10.CompareTo(5));

                        Note '>' vs '<'

                        When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                        decaffeinatedMonkey
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                        "Check the plugs." Plugs being any of the following: - connection strings - method parameters - app settings "F5 and pray" Let-er rip and see what happens. Don't be afraid. 😁 I usually say a short prayer as my coffee is compiling / starting up.

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                        • H honey the codewitch

                          One of mine is - when dealing with IComparable in .NET "Greater than is less than" What it means is Converting

                          if(10>5);

                          to IComparable it reads

                          if(0<10.CompareTo(5));

                          Note '>' vs '<'

                          When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                          agolddog
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                          Don't solve problems which don't actually exist. Like anything, this must be used in moderation. If there's a good, easy-to-understand abstraction you can implement which isn't required today , but you can see an obvious business case for it coming, go ahead. At the same time, be careful of overengineering just because you thought of some possible, but unlikely, abstraction. Design your code in such a way that can be implemented when the problem actually becomes something to solve.

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                          • M Member 9167057

                            Something similar: Never compare floats for equality. It may bite sooner than later.

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                            kalberts
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                            That is also one of the mantras I preached when teaching programming. But even though we had been teaching the kids about limited precision, it was very difficut for the to understand that "if ((1/3)*3 == 1)" could fail. (Except that if you really used constants, or compile-time-evaluated expressions, an optimizing compiler might remove the entire "if".) Students often have a vague understanding of terms like "integer" and "float" (or "real"). So I preferred to refer to them as "counts" and "measurements". That made it a lot easier for them to understand how both integers and floats behave in the computer. One of the great details of the APL language is the environment variable quadFUZZ (if my memory of the name is correct): When comparing floats, if the difference is less than quadFUZZ, the values are treated as equal. (I belive that the fuzz was actually scaled by the actual float value, so it was a realative, not absolute tolerance, but I am not sure - APL is too long ago!)

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                            • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                              Another reason to avoid "Yoda conditionals":

                              if (10 > 5)
                              if (10.CompareTo(5) > 0)

                              :)


                              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                              honey the codewitch
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                              one of those looks like a bug.

                              When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                              • S S Houghtelin

                                My mantra is "Dammit! Dammit! Dammit!". Way back when learning C, to help me remember to add the extra equal sign when writing a conditional statement as opposed to an assignment I would say "Equals to" and press the equal sign == for each word and to say "Equals" and only hit the equal = sign once for assigning a value.

                                It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                                kalberts
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                                One of the reasons that I miss Pascal. Both the double == and the paretheses requirements.

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                                  That is also one of the mantras I preached when teaching programming. But even though we had been teaching the kids about limited precision, it was very difficut for the to understand that "if ((1/3)*3 == 1)" could fail. (Except that if you really used constants, or compile-time-evaluated expressions, an optimizing compiler might remove the entire "if".) Students often have a vague understanding of terms like "integer" and "float" (or "real"). So I preferred to refer to them as "counts" and "measurements". That made it a lot easier for them to understand how both integers and floats behave in the computer. One of the great details of the APL language is the environment variable quadFUZZ (if my memory of the name is correct): When comparing floats, if the difference is less than quadFUZZ, the values are treated as equal. (I belive that the fuzz was actually scaled by the actual float value, so it was a realative, not absolute tolerance, but I am not sure - APL is too long ago!)

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                                  Oddly enough, I can't remember any problems you're talking about from my own experience. And I am not even a programmer by trade, I've studied physics and programming was a side-gig at first. To me, integer numbers are exact and floats are, as it's impossible to represent arbitrary numbers with discrete values, approximations. They may be good enough for daily use, but they may fail and when they do, they fail. Maybe that's why I didn't have any problems, the concept of approximations is deeply nested in a physicist's mind. Well, that and I've recently built a system which used integer for it's measurement values (mostly because the sensor returns integers by the value of 0,01°C). So your vocabulary would have spectacularily failed me :D

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                                    Something similar: Never compare floats for equality. It may bite sooner than later.

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                                    Peter R Fletcher
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                                    Don't compare datetimes for equality, either, particularly if they don't all come from the same 'source'.

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                                      Don't compare datetimes for equality, either, particularly if they don't all come from the same 'source'.

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                                      Member 9167057
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                                      That, on the other hand, may work just fine. Depends on the language/runtime library and the source of the dates, but when I want to know if some date is today, equality works. Again, assuming the runtime library helps and you know what you're doing. There's a reason why TheDailyWTF has a couple stories on mishandling time stamps. I suppose, we could amend "Don't run home-built date/time handling" to the list of useful mantras. There's heap tons of ways to get them wrong and even if you test all you can, it may fail when a leap year occurs.

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                                      • H honey the codewitch

                                        One of mine is - when dealing with IComparable in .NET "Greater than is less than" What it means is Converting

                                        if(10>5);

                                        to IComparable it reads

                                        if(0<10.CompareTo(5));

                                        Note '>' vs '<'

                                        When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                                        Well, I more or less always knew that my greatest weakness was my tendency to want certain sections of my code to be bug free. That kind of code-blindness causes extra work when debugging. Through the years I have advanced to the point where I can realize now that I write loads of lines of bugs encapsulating some small bits of perfectly functional code. I'm actually a decent debugger now, I'm still working on the programming part.

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                                          Well, I more or less always knew that my greatest weakness was my tendency to want certain sections of my code to be bug free. That kind of code-blindness causes extra work when debugging. Through the years I have advanced to the point where I can realize now that I write loads of lines of bugs encapsulating some small bits of perfectly functional code. I'm actually a decent debugger now, I'm still working on the programming part.

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                                          honey the codewitch
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                                          AnotherKen wrote:

                                          I'm actually a decent debugger now, I'm still working on the programming part.

                                          Ha! relatable content :-D

                                          When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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