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    I'm writing some stuff in Word and Word thinks it's necessary to improve my writing. Mostly, that's true, but it has one suggestion that I followed until I found out it's not right. Every time I write "have to" or some form of it, Word says "use 'must' for concise language." Now, as I understand it, that's perfectly fine in American English, but not so much in British English where "have to" indicates an external incentive while "must" comes from an internal incentive. For example, "I have to use the Azure cloud at work" (dictated by your boss) and "I must work out more often" (something you wish to do because it's healthy). Of course, if your doctor or wife tells you to work out more often "or else" it becomes "I have to work out more often." Anyway, I must now change "must" to "have to" or my readers will make fun of me for not understanding the English language :sigh: The issue is pretty much un-Googleable, but does anyone know how I can turn off this very specific "have to" to "must" rule?

    Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

      I'm writing some stuff in Word and Word thinks it's necessary to improve my writing. Mostly, that's true, but it has one suggestion that I followed until I found out it's not right. Every time I write "have to" or some form of it, Word says "use 'must' for concise language." Now, as I understand it, that's perfectly fine in American English, but not so much in British English where "have to" indicates an external incentive while "must" comes from an internal incentive. For example, "I have to use the Azure cloud at work" (dictated by your boss) and "I must work out more often" (something you wish to do because it's healthy). Of course, if your doctor or wife tells you to work out more often "or else" it becomes "I have to work out more often." Anyway, I must now change "must" to "have to" or my readers will make fun of me for not understanding the English language :sigh: The issue is pretty much un-Googleable, but does anyone know how I can turn off this very specific "have to" to "must" rule?

      Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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      Sander Rossel wrote:

      does anyone know how I can turn off this very specific "have to" to "must" rule?

      I must research that, but for the moment, I have to ignore your query. ;)

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      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

        I'm writing some stuff in Word and Word thinks it's necessary to improve my writing. Mostly, that's true, but it has one suggestion that I followed until I found out it's not right. Every time I write "have to" or some form of it, Word says "use 'must' for concise language." Now, as I understand it, that's perfectly fine in American English, but not so much in British English where "have to" indicates an external incentive while "must" comes from an internal incentive. For example, "I have to use the Azure cloud at work" (dictated by your boss) and "I must work out more often" (something you wish to do because it's healthy). Of course, if your doctor or wife tells you to work out more often "or else" it becomes "I have to work out more often." Anyway, I must now change "must" to "have to" or my readers will make fun of me for not understanding the English language :sigh: The issue is pretty much un-Googleable, but does anyone know how I can turn off this very specific "have to" to "must" rule?

        Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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        Or you could just turn off the suggestion feature and happily go on about your life.

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        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

          I'm writing some stuff in Word and Word thinks it's necessary to improve my writing. Mostly, that's true, but it has one suggestion that I followed until I found out it's not right. Every time I write "have to" or some form of it, Word says "use 'must' for concise language." Now, as I understand it, that's perfectly fine in American English, but not so much in British English where "have to" indicates an external incentive while "must" comes from an internal incentive. For example, "I have to use the Azure cloud at work" (dictated by your boss) and "I must work out more often" (something you wish to do because it's healthy). Of course, if your doctor or wife tells you to work out more often "or else" it becomes "I have to work out more often." Anyway, I must now change "must" to "have to" or my readers will make fun of me for not understanding the English language :sigh: The issue is pretty much un-Googleable, but does anyone know how I can turn off this very specific "have to" to "must" rule?

          Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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          First thing I do is turn off the suggestion "feature". English is my primary and native language so I grew up learning how to speak and write it properly - I don't need some American software who thinks it knows better (it doesn't) telling me how to write. My second language is American. Since I came to live in the US I thought I should learn the local language. It is surprisingly different. :~

          - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

            I'm writing some stuff in Word and Word thinks it's necessary to improve my writing. Mostly, that's true, but it has one suggestion that I followed until I found out it's not right. Every time I write "have to" or some form of it, Word says "use 'must' for concise language." Now, as I understand it, that's perfectly fine in American English, but not so much in British English where "have to" indicates an external incentive while "must" comes from an internal incentive. For example, "I have to use the Azure cloud at work" (dictated by your boss) and "I must work out more often" (something you wish to do because it's healthy). Of course, if your doctor or wife tells you to work out more often "or else" it becomes "I have to work out more often." Anyway, I must now change "must" to "have to" or my readers will make fun of me for not understanding the English language :sigh: The issue is pretty much un-Googleable, but does anyone know how I can turn off this very specific "have to" to "must" rule?

            Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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            you must remember that you have to be more concise in settings for Word's words.

            after many otherwise intelligent sounding suggestions that achieved nothing the nice folks at Technet said the only solution was to low level format my hard disk then reinstall my signature. Sadly, this still didn't fix the issue!

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            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

              I'm writing some stuff in Word and Word thinks it's necessary to improve my writing. Mostly, that's true, but it has one suggestion that I followed until I found out it's not right. Every time I write "have to" or some form of it, Word says "use 'must' for concise language." Now, as I understand it, that's perfectly fine in American English, but not so much in British English where "have to" indicates an external incentive while "must" comes from an internal incentive. For example, "I have to use the Azure cloud at work" (dictated by your boss) and "I must work out more often" (something you wish to do because it's healthy). Of course, if your doctor or wife tells you to work out more often "or else" it becomes "I have to work out more often." Anyway, I must now change "must" to "have to" or my readers will make fun of me for not understanding the English language :sigh: The issue is pretty much un-Googleable, but does anyone know how I can turn off this very specific "have to" to "must" rule?

              Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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              I feel your pain. Here in Switzerland, Office is set to German, and it keeps suggesting the use of ß (sharp s), even though in Switzerland that letter isn't used at all, and it's not on the keyboard either. (I had to copy-paste it here from another source) X|

              GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)

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                I feel your pain. Here in Switzerland, Office is set to German, and it keeps suggesting the use of ß (sharp s), even though in Switzerland that letter isn't used at all, and it's not on the keyboard either. (I had to copy-paste it here from another source) X|

                GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)

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                Alt&225 (225 on the numeric key pad) ;)

                It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                  I feel your pain. Here in Switzerland, Office is set to German, and it keeps suggesting the use of ß (sharp s), even though in Switzerland that letter isn't used at all, and it's not on the keyboard either. (I had to copy-paste it here from another source) X|

                  GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)

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                  would/could autocorrect not be set alter ss to ß for you? (I don't have DE language pack to test)

                  after many otherwise intelligent sounding suggestions that achieved nothing the nice folks at Technet said the only solution was to low level format my hard disk then reinstall my signature. Sadly, this still didn't fix the issue!

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                    would/could autocorrect not be set alter ss to ß for you? (I don't have DE language pack to test)

                    after many otherwise intelligent sounding suggestions that achieved nothing the nice folks at Technet said the only solution was to low level format my hard disk then reinstall my signature. Sadly, this still didn't fix the issue!

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                    I think Stefan wanted exactly the opposite: NOT changing ss to ß. Avoiding the ß. It really is frustrating when software insists on interpreting your input according to some other culture than your own. Typical examples are refusing to accept a decimal comma; over there in the US they use a decimal point, and then the rest of the world must obey to that. Or date formats. Or, when you type an abbreviation that is not in the editor's list recognized abbreviations (but it ought to be), and then insist on capitalizing the next word. Or systems insisting that URL (or in some cases: Any character string with embedded fullstops) is to be internally coded as a web link (that example is not culture dependent, but it is the same kind of frustration.) There are countless such examples. Some of them can be avoided by proper configuration of the software - but sometimes deeply hidden in some intricate configuration spot you were not assumed to know of. Sometimes it isn't configurable. This is most common for open source software, so it is configurable: You can have access to the source code, so you can change it yourself...

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                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                      I'm writing some stuff in Word and Word thinks it's necessary to improve my writing. Mostly, that's true, but it has one suggestion that I followed until I found out it's not right. Every time I write "have to" or some form of it, Word says "use 'must' for concise language." Now, as I understand it, that's perfectly fine in American English, but not so much in British English where "have to" indicates an external incentive while "must" comes from an internal incentive. For example, "I have to use the Azure cloud at work" (dictated by your boss) and "I must work out more often" (something you wish to do because it's healthy). Of course, if your doctor or wife tells you to work out more often "or else" it becomes "I have to work out more often." Anyway, I must now change "must" to "have to" or my readers will make fun of me for not understanding the English language :sigh: The issue is pretty much un-Googleable, but does anyone know how I can turn off this very specific "have to" to "must" rule?

                      Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                      "have to" sounds clumsy relative to "must"; while when "must" is too strong, "should" seems to work. Or "need" to (in case of doctor's wishes). "have to" related to work conveys annoyance. "Our standard is …". "Having something (in your hand)" versus "having something (to do)". The word is just clumsy by itself.

                      It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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                      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                        I'm writing some stuff in Word and Word thinks it's necessary to improve my writing. Mostly, that's true, but it has one suggestion that I followed until I found out it's not right. Every time I write "have to" or some form of it, Word says "use 'must' for concise language." Now, as I understand it, that's perfectly fine in American English, but not so much in British English where "have to" indicates an external incentive while "must" comes from an internal incentive. For example, "I have to use the Azure cloud at work" (dictated by your boss) and "I must work out more often" (something you wish to do because it's healthy). Of course, if your doctor or wife tells you to work out more often "or else" it becomes "I have to work out more often." Anyway, I must now change "must" to "have to" or my readers will make fun of me for not understanding the English language :sigh: The issue is pretty much un-Googleable, but does anyone know how I can turn off this very specific "have to" to "must" rule?

                        Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                        File...Options... Choose the "Proofing" tab... Choose the AutoCorrect button and a dialog pops up. There's a list of words that will be auto replaced. It may be in there.

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                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                          I'm writing some stuff in Word and Word thinks it's necessary to improve my writing. Mostly, that's true, but it has one suggestion that I followed until I found out it's not right. Every time I write "have to" or some form of it, Word says "use 'must' for concise language." Now, as I understand it, that's perfectly fine in American English, but not so much in British English where "have to" indicates an external incentive while "must" comes from an internal incentive. For example, "I have to use the Azure cloud at work" (dictated by your boss) and "I must work out more often" (something you wish to do because it's healthy). Of course, if your doctor or wife tells you to work out more often "or else" it becomes "I have to work out more often." Anyway, I must now change "must" to "have to" or my readers will make fun of me for not understanding the English language :sigh: The issue is pretty much un-Googleable, but does anyone know how I can turn off this very specific "have to" to "must" rule?

                          Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                          It gets worse in case you use this with "not" :laugh:

                          It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                            I'm writing some stuff in Word and Word thinks it's necessary to improve my writing. Mostly, that's true, but it has one suggestion that I followed until I found out it's not right. Every time I write "have to" or some form of it, Word says "use 'must' for concise language." Now, as I understand it, that's perfectly fine in American English, but not so much in British English where "have to" indicates an external incentive while "must" comes from an internal incentive. For example, "I have to use the Azure cloud at work" (dictated by your boss) and "I must work out more often" (something you wish to do because it's healthy). Of course, if your doctor or wife tells you to work out more often "or else" it becomes "I have to work out more often." Anyway, I must now change "must" to "have to" or my readers will make fun of me for not understanding the English language :sigh: The issue is pretty much un-Googleable, but does anyone know how I can turn off this very specific "have to" to "must" rule?

                            Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                            Oh, also if you float over the have to where the "suggestion line" appears under the words and right-click it then you get a popup-- looks like this[^]. Then you can click the "Options for conciseness" and you get a dialog box --- looks like this[^]. And if you uncheck the "wordiness" option it turns it off. Also, to get to this setting again, you go to File...Options... and choose the Proofing tab. Then click the [Settings...] button next to Writing Style It's under Grammar & Refinements and it looks like this[^].

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                              First thing I do is turn off the suggestion "feature". English is my primary and native language so I grew up learning how to speak and write it properly - I don't need some American software who thinks it knows better (it doesn't) telling me how to write. My second language is American. Since I came to live in the US I thought I should learn the local language. It is surprisingly different. :~

                              - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                              CoolTeddyBear
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                              whilst I agree with your sentiment...

                              I don't need some American software who thinks it knows better

                              is grammatically incorrect. The American software is inanimate. 'who' should be 'that'

                              Live long and prosper

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                              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                I'm writing some stuff in Word and Word thinks it's necessary to improve my writing. Mostly, that's true, but it has one suggestion that I followed until I found out it's not right. Every time I write "have to" or some form of it, Word says "use 'must' for concise language." Now, as I understand it, that's perfectly fine in American English, but not so much in British English where "have to" indicates an external incentive while "must" comes from an internal incentive. For example, "I have to use the Azure cloud at work" (dictated by your boss) and "I must work out more often" (something you wish to do because it's healthy). Of course, if your doctor or wife tells you to work out more often "or else" it becomes "I have to work out more often." Anyway, I must now change "must" to "have to" or my readers will make fun of me for not understanding the English language :sigh: The issue is pretty much un-Googleable, but does anyone know how I can turn off this very specific "have to" to "must" rule?

                                Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                                Does changing your language to English (U.K.) not work? (Click on the language down on the status bar.)

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                                  whilst I agree with your sentiment...

                                  I don't need some American software who thinks it knows better

                                  is grammatically incorrect. The American software is inanimate. 'who' should be 'that'

                                  Live long and prosper

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                                  :laugh: :thumbsup:

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                                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                    I'm writing some stuff in Word and Word thinks it's necessary to improve my writing. Mostly, that's true, but it has one suggestion that I followed until I found out it's not right. Every time I write "have to" or some form of it, Word says "use 'must' for concise language." Now, as I understand it, that's perfectly fine in American English, but not so much in British English where "have to" indicates an external incentive while "must" comes from an internal incentive. For example, "I have to use the Azure cloud at work" (dictated by your boss) and "I must work out more often" (something you wish to do because it's healthy). Of course, if your doctor or wife tells you to work out more often "or else" it becomes "I have to work out more often." Anyway, I must now change "must" to "have to" or my readers will make fun of me for not understanding the English language :sigh: The issue is pretty much un-Googleable, but does anyone know how I can turn off this very specific "have to" to "must" rule?

                                    Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                                    Be very careful with "have to", because it implies a higher power. Good examples: - You have to obey the speed limit (because the law says so). - You have to do your homework (because your teacher says so). - You have to charge your phone battery (because the laws of Physics say so). - You have to fill in fields marked with asterisks (because the form won't work if you don't). Only one bad example is needed: - You have to do what I want (because I am a higher power, and am far more important than you). If you are not a higher power, the reaction will be along the lines of "He's an arrogant little shite, that one!" i.e. don't tell customers (or anyone else) that they "have to" do something that's for your benefit. "Must", as you say, implies "for your benefit": - You must book your flight early (because it fills up pretty quickly). However, we also have a "gentle" imperative, which can be used for either case, but is less pushy: - You need to get that finished by the end of the week (because I/you/we/they need it). But if you want to be really co-operative, go reflexive: - I need you to help me peeling these grapes.

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                                      First thing I do is turn off the suggestion "feature". English is my primary and native language so I grew up learning how to speak and write it properly - I don't need some American software who thinks it knows better (it doesn't) telling me how to write. My second language is American. Since I came to live in the US I thought I should learn the local language. It is surprisingly different. :~

                                      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                      Mark_Wallace
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                                      *Ahem!*

                                      Forogar wrote:

                                      I don't need some American software who that thinks it knows better

                                      Let's keep the relative personal pronouns where they belong, eh? No-one is above Skitt's Law.

                                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                        First thing I do is turn off the suggestion "feature". English is my primary and native language so I grew up learning how to speak and write it properly - I don't need some American software who thinks it knows better (it doesn't) telling me how to write. My second language is American. Since I came to live in the US I thought I should learn the local language. It is surprisingly different. :~

                                        - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                        Forogar wrote:

                                        First thing I do is turn off the suggestion "feature".

                                        I leave it on because it makes me laugh.

                                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                          I'm writing some stuff in Word and Word thinks it's necessary to improve my writing. Mostly, that's true, but it has one suggestion that I followed until I found out it's not right. Every time I write "have to" or some form of it, Word says "use 'must' for concise language." Now, as I understand it, that's perfectly fine in American English, but not so much in British English where "have to" indicates an external incentive while "must" comes from an internal incentive. For example, "I have to use the Azure cloud at work" (dictated by your boss) and "I must work out more often" (something you wish to do because it's healthy). Of course, if your doctor or wife tells you to work out more often "or else" it becomes "I have to work out more often." Anyway, I must now change "must" to "have to" or my readers will make fun of me for not understanding the English language :sigh: The issue is pretty much un-Googleable, but does anyone know how I can turn off this very specific "have to" to "must" rule?

                                          Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                                          Ravi Bhavnani
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                                          Sander Rossel wrote:

                                          I have to use the Azure cloud at work

                                          IMHO, that's not professional.  I would rewrite that as "I am required to use the Azure cloud at work". /ravi

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