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  • H honey the codewitch

    Now I have to restructure some performance critical code entirely because of the lack "break" statement. I'm angry at their lack of effort.

    Real programmers use butterflies

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    Greg Utas
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    If it had a break statement, it would probably follow C++ and overload it. :mad: But surely it has...you know...goto. :laugh:

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    • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

      If it had a break statement, it would probably follow C++ and overload it. :mad: But surely it has...you know...goto. :laugh:

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      honey the codewitch
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      If does have goto, and i'm seriously considering it at this point

      Real programmers use butterflies

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      • H honey the codewitch

        Now I have to restructure some performance critical code entirely because of the lack "break" statement. I'm angry at their lack of effort.

        Real programmers use butterflies

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        And CodeDOM sounds like an epithet for my rubber duck, who's a refactoring taskmaster. :laugh:

        <p><a href="https://github.com/GregUtas/robust-services-core/blob/master/README.md">Robust Services Core</a>
        <em>The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.</em></p>

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        • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

          And CodeDOM sounds like an epithet for my rubber duck, who's a refactoring taskmaster. :laugh:

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          honey the codewitch
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          Hahaha Lick my boot! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

          Real programmers use butterflies

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          • H honey the codewitch

            Hahaha Lick my boot! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

            Real programmers use butterflies

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            (Shouldn't it have been 'bootstrap'?)

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            • H honey the codewitch

              If does have goto, and i'm seriously considering it at this point

              Real programmers use butterflies

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              Brady Kelly
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              Well, when there's a reason, and it's thought out properly, there's nothing wrong with a goto.

              "'Do what thou wilt...' is to bid Stars to shine, Vines to bear grapes, Water to seek its level; man is the only being in Nature that has striven to set himself at odds with himself." —Aleister Crowley

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              • B Brady Kelly

                Well, when there's a reason, and it's thought out properly, there's nothing wrong with a goto.

                "'Do what thou wilt...' is to bid Stars to shine, Vines to bear grapes, Water to seek its level; man is the only being in Nature that has striven to set himself at odds with himself." —Aleister Crowley

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                honey the codewitch
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                I think the reason would hopefully be better than "someone at microsoft slacked off"

                Real programmers use butterflies

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                • H honey the codewitch

                  Now I have to restructure some performance critical code entirely because of the lack "break" statement. I'm angry at their lack of effort.

                  Real programmers use butterflies

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                  Mark_Wallace
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                  You could be starting a trend, here: Whoever designed AnnoyingProduct should be forced to use it I can think of several values for AnnoyingProduct, without even putting my mind to it

                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  • M Mark_Wallace

                    You could be starting a trend, here: Whoever designed AnnoyingProduct should be forced to use it I can think of several values for AnnoyingProduct, without even putting my mind to it

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    honey the codewitch
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                    It's a good principle, IMO. :-D

                    Real programmers use butterflies

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                    • M Mark_Wallace

                      You could be starting a trend, here: Whoever designed AnnoyingProduct should be forced to use it I can think of several values for AnnoyingProduct, without even putting my mind to it

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      Jorgen Andersson
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                      Eating your own dog food - Wikipedia[^]

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                      • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

                        If it had a break statement, it would probably follow C++ and overload it. :mad: But surely it has...you know...goto. :laugh:

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                        CPallini
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                        You cannot overload the break statement in C++.

                        In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                        • H honey the codewitch

                          Now I have to restructure some performance critical code entirely because of the lack "break" statement. I'm angry at their lack of effort.

                          Real programmers use butterflies

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                          Sander Rossel
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                          You could almost say it... Broke your code! Ba dum tish! :D

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                            Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                            Eating your own dog food - Wikipedia[^]

                            Nice! It links to some fun articles, too.

                            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                            • H honey the codewitch

                              If does have goto, and i'm seriously considering it at this point

                              Real programmers use butterflies

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                              Richard Deeming
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                              Do it. break is just a thinly-disguised goto anyway. :) Here's an article from 2007 with some alternatives for the unsupported features: CodeDom Assistant[^]


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                                You cannot overload the break statement in C++.

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                                What I meant was that C++ overloads break itself, although I suppose this can be debated. But it's annoying not to be able to exit a loop using break when inside a switch statement that's embedded within that loop.

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                                • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                  Do it. break is just a thinly-disguised goto anyway. :) Here's an article from 2007 with some alternatives for the unsupported features: CodeDom Assistant[^]


                                  "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                                  honey the codewitch
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                                  Thanks but I've got codedom assist covered (CodeDOM Go Kit: The CodeDOM is Dead, Long Live the CodeDOM)[^]

                                  Real programmers use butterflies

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                                  • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

                                    What I meant was that C++ overloads break itself, although I suppose this can be debated. But it's annoying not to be able to exit a loop using break when inside a switch statement that's embedded within that loop.

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                                    CPallini
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                                    OK, now I got it. I think I've used the break statement millions times without ever considering its 'double' nature (I mean, I knew and eccepted it blindly)! :) Thank you for the explanation.

                                    In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                                      (Shouldn't it have been 'bootstrap'?)

                                      The forgotten roots of science | C++ Programming | DWinLib

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                                      Greg Utas
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                                      Or maybe "reboot"!

                                      <p><a href="https://github.com/GregUtas/robust-services-core/blob/master/README.md">Robust Services Core</a>
                                      <em>The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.</em></p>

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                                      • B Brady Kelly

                                        Well, when there's a reason, and it's thought out properly, there's nothing wrong with a goto.

                                        "'Do what thou wilt...' is to bid Stars to shine, Vines to bear grapes, Water to seek its level; man is the only being in Nature that has striven to set himself at odds with himself." —Aleister Crowley

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                                        Brady Kelly wrote:

                                        Well, when there's a reason, and it's thought out properly, there's nothing wrong with a goto.

                                        Just document what the goto is in there for. Even Dykstra said goto has a place.

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