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  • H honey the codewitch

    If does have goto, and i'm seriously considering it at this point

    Real programmers use butterflies

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    Brady Kelly
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    Well, when there's a reason, and it's thought out properly, there's nothing wrong with a goto.

    "'Do what thou wilt...' is to bid Stars to shine, Vines to bear grapes, Water to seek its level; man is the only being in Nature that has striven to set himself at odds with himself." —Aleister Crowley

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    • B Brady Kelly

      Well, when there's a reason, and it's thought out properly, there's nothing wrong with a goto.

      "'Do what thou wilt...' is to bid Stars to shine, Vines to bear grapes, Water to seek its level; man is the only being in Nature that has striven to set himself at odds with himself." —Aleister Crowley

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      honey the codewitch
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      I think the reason would hopefully be better than "someone at microsoft slacked off"

      Real programmers use butterflies

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      • H honey the codewitch

        Now I have to restructure some performance critical code entirely because of the lack "break" statement. I'm angry at their lack of effort.

        Real programmers use butterflies

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        Mark_Wallace
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        You could be starting a trend, here: Whoever designed AnnoyingProduct should be forced to use it I can think of several values for AnnoyingProduct, without even putting my mind to it

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        • M Mark_Wallace

          You could be starting a trend, here: Whoever designed AnnoyingProduct should be forced to use it I can think of several values for AnnoyingProduct, without even putting my mind to it

          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          honey the codewitch
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          It's a good principle, IMO. :-D

          Real programmers use butterflies

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          • M Mark_Wallace

            You could be starting a trend, here: Whoever designed AnnoyingProduct should be forced to use it I can think of several values for AnnoyingProduct, without even putting my mind to it

            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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            Jorgen Andersson
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            Eating your own dog food - Wikipedia[^]

            Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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            • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

              If it had a break statement, it would probably follow C++ and overload it. :mad: But surely it has...you know...goto. :laugh:

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              CPallini
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              You cannot overload the break statement in C++.

              In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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              • H honey the codewitch

                Now I have to restructure some performance critical code entirely because of the lack "break" statement. I'm angry at their lack of effort.

                Real programmers use butterflies

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                Sander Rossel
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                You could almost say it... Broke your code! Ba dum tish! :D

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                  Eating your own dog food - Wikipedia[^]

                  Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                  Mark_Wallace
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                  Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                  Eating your own dog food - Wikipedia[^]

                  Nice! It links to some fun articles, too.

                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  • H honey the codewitch

                    If does have goto, and i'm seriously considering it at this point

                    Real programmers use butterflies

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                    Richard Deeming
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                    Do it. break is just a thinly-disguised goto anyway. :) Here's an article from 2007 with some alternatives for the unsupported features: CodeDom Assistant[^]


                    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                    • CPalliniC CPallini

                      You cannot overload the break statement in C++.

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                      What I meant was that C++ overloads break itself, although I suppose this can be debated. But it's annoying not to be able to exit a loop using break when inside a switch statement that's embedded within that loop.

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                      • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                        Do it. break is just a thinly-disguised goto anyway. :) Here's an article from 2007 with some alternatives for the unsupported features: CodeDom Assistant[^]


                        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                        honey the codewitch
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                        Thanks but I've got codedom assist covered (CodeDOM Go Kit: The CodeDOM is Dead, Long Live the CodeDOM)[^]

                        Real programmers use butterflies

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                        • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

                          What I meant was that C++ overloads break itself, although I suppose this can be debated. But it's annoying not to be able to exit a loop using break when inside a switch statement that's embedded within that loop.

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                          OK, now I got it. I think I've used the break statement millions times without ever considering its 'double' nature (I mean, I knew and eccepted it blindly)! :) Thank you for the explanation.

                          In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                            Or maybe "reboot"!

                            <p><a href="https://github.com/GregUtas/robust-services-core/blob/master/README.md">Robust Services Core</a>
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                            • B Brady Kelly

                              Well, when there's a reason, and it's thought out properly, there's nothing wrong with a goto.

                              "'Do what thou wilt...' is to bid Stars to shine, Vines to bear grapes, Water to seek its level; man is the only being in Nature that has striven to set himself at odds with himself." —Aleister Crowley

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                              Brady Kelly wrote:

                              Well, when there's a reason, and it's thought out properly, there's nothing wrong with a goto.

                              Just document what the goto is in there for. Even Dykstra said goto has a place.

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