When the arrogant know-it-all in your team is not you. - UPDATE
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Pig farm. Cut it up, they'll eat the bits quite happily. Apparently.
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That was Brick Tops favourite disposal method in the film Snatch :)
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Its a bit amazing and scary at the same time, how much traction a murderous idea is getting by people of profession which are generally known as introverts and socially awkward. Then again that might be the reason why. I may just be scared because I'm the know-it-all in my team :^)
Pitchforks at the ready everyone, we got another one over here :laugh:
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Forogar wrote:
Where is the best place to bury a body?
IMHO, that's the wrong approach. I suggest instead promoting him to a position where he doesn't have access to source code. /ravi
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And the bulk of the business logic must be done in VBA, with no plugins allowed.
My plan is to live forever ... so far so good
We're going to need some censorship here X|
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I have been a professional programmer/developer/whatever since 1980. I wrote my first working program in 1975 (it worked first time, and the rest is history). I know a lot of stuff, I have forgotten more stuff than a lot of people know, I have a PhD in CS and have worked every position (in five countries and two continents) from Junior Programmer on a mainframe to Director of Software Development in a couple of companies doing everything from expert systems to language interpreters to tape robot control. I have written standards documents at a lot of companies and trained many, many developers in HTML, XML, multi-threading, and other useful stuff. I have now taken a position as a Senior Software Engineer in the government as a sort of retirement job (the medical and pension plans are great!). Then a member of my team insists on plugging React into our huge web-based intranet system, breaks everything in sight but still insists he is right and we should all change everything to fit his new idea of how things should be done. In addition he spends at least half of every code-review explaining why our established naming conventions should be changed to the way he does it because he read an article by someone who worked on Farcebook who suggested some conventions. My question is: Where is the best place to bury a body? Just asking for a friend. ;P [Update] Our wonderful manager has moved him to another team. The complaints have already started. Now I am really asking for a friend!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
You should be free to state that "persistence of an opinion is not the same as knowledge or professionalism". However, the problem with these folks is that summary execution does not help, and they will keep talking even when the head is chronically severed from the body. We call them "zweefteef" but I can't seem to find a suitable translation.
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You should be free to state that "persistence of an opinion is not the same as knowledge or professionalism". However, the problem with these folks is that summary execution does not help, and they will keep talking even when the head is chronically severed from the body. We call them "zweefteef" but I can't seem to find a suitable translation.
"Airhead" maybe? :-\
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Pitchforks at the ready everyone, we got another one over here :laugh:
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And don't forget the scythes :-\
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Forogar wrote:
Where is the best place to bury a body?
IMHO, that's the wrong approach. I suggest instead promoting him to a position where he doesn't have access to source code. /ravi
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Ravi Bhavnani wrote:
IMHO, that's the wrong approach. I suggest instead promoting him to a position where he doesn't have access to source code.
Senior project manager?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I have been a professional programmer/developer/whatever since 1980. I wrote my first working program in 1975 (it worked first time, and the rest is history). I know a lot of stuff, I have forgotten more stuff than a lot of people know, I have a PhD in CS and have worked every position (in five countries and two continents) from Junior Programmer on a mainframe to Director of Software Development in a couple of companies doing everything from expert systems to language interpreters to tape robot control. I have written standards documents at a lot of companies and trained many, many developers in HTML, XML, multi-threading, and other useful stuff. I have now taken a position as a Senior Software Engineer in the government as a sort of retirement job (the medical and pension plans are great!). Then a member of my team insists on plugging React into our huge web-based intranet system, breaks everything in sight but still insists he is right and we should all change everything to fit his new idea of how things should be done. In addition he spends at least half of every code-review explaining why our established naming conventions should be changed to the way he does it because he read an article by someone who worked on Farcebook who suggested some conventions. My question is: Where is the best place to bury a body? Just asking for a friend. ;P [Update] Our wonderful manager has moved him to another team. The complaints have already started. Now I am really asking for a friend!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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I have been a professional programmer/developer/whatever since 1980. I wrote my first working program in 1975 (it worked first time, and the rest is history). I know a lot of stuff, I have forgotten more stuff than a lot of people know, I have a PhD in CS and have worked every position (in five countries and two continents) from Junior Programmer on a mainframe to Director of Software Development in a couple of companies doing everything from expert systems to language interpreters to tape robot control. I have written standards documents at a lot of companies and trained many, many developers in HTML, XML, multi-threading, and other useful stuff. I have now taken a position as a Senior Software Engineer in the government as a sort of retirement job (the medical and pension plans are great!). Then a member of my team insists on plugging React into our huge web-based intranet system, breaks everything in sight but still insists he is right and we should all change everything to fit his new idea of how things should be done. In addition he spends at least half of every code-review explaining why our established naming conventions should be changed to the way he does it because he read an article by someone who worked on Farcebook who suggested some conventions. My question is: Where is the best place to bury a body? Just asking for a friend. ;P [Update] Our wonderful manager has moved him to another team. The complaints have already started. Now I am really asking for a friend!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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I have been a professional programmer/developer/whatever since 1980. I wrote my first working program in 1975 (it worked first time, and the rest is history). I know a lot of stuff, I have forgotten more stuff than a lot of people know, I have a PhD in CS and have worked every position (in five countries and two continents) from Junior Programmer on a mainframe to Director of Software Development in a couple of companies doing everything from expert systems to language interpreters to tape robot control. I have written standards documents at a lot of companies and trained many, many developers in HTML, XML, multi-threading, and other useful stuff. I have now taken a position as a Senior Software Engineer in the government as a sort of retirement job (the medical and pension plans are great!). Then a member of my team insists on plugging React into our huge web-based intranet system, breaks everything in sight but still insists he is right and we should all change everything to fit his new idea of how things should be done. In addition he spends at least half of every code-review explaining why our established naming conventions should be changed to the way he does it because he read an article by someone who worked on Farcebook who suggested some conventions. My question is: Where is the best place to bury a body? Just asking for a friend. ;P [Update] Our wonderful manager has moved him to another team. The complaints have already started. Now I am really asking for a friend!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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I have been a professional programmer/developer/whatever since 1980. I wrote my first working program in 1975 (it worked first time, and the rest is history). I know a lot of stuff, I have forgotten more stuff than a lot of people know, I have a PhD in CS and have worked every position (in five countries and two continents) from Junior Programmer on a mainframe to Director of Software Development in a couple of companies doing everything from expert systems to language interpreters to tape robot control. I have written standards documents at a lot of companies and trained many, many developers in HTML, XML, multi-threading, and other useful stuff. I have now taken a position as a Senior Software Engineer in the government as a sort of retirement job (the medical and pension plans are great!). Then a member of my team insists on plugging React into our huge web-based intranet system, breaks everything in sight but still insists he is right and we should all change everything to fit his new idea of how things should be done. In addition he spends at least half of every code-review explaining why our established naming conventions should be changed to the way he does it because he read an article by someone who worked on Farcebook who suggested some conventions. My question is: Where is the best place to bury a body? Just asking for a friend. ;P [Update] Our wonderful manager has moved him to another team. The complaints have already started. Now I am really asking for a friend!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
Well - the way you describe the new team member - and the way you describe yourself - I'd either 'off the both of you' or put you both in the same cell.
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I have been a professional programmer/developer/whatever since 1980. I wrote my first working program in 1975 (it worked first time, and the rest is history). I know a lot of stuff, I have forgotten more stuff than a lot of people know, I have a PhD in CS and have worked every position (in five countries and two continents) from Junior Programmer on a mainframe to Director of Software Development in a couple of companies doing everything from expert systems to language interpreters to tape robot control. I have written standards documents at a lot of companies and trained many, many developers in HTML, XML, multi-threading, and other useful stuff. I have now taken a position as a Senior Software Engineer in the government as a sort of retirement job (the medical and pension plans are great!). Then a member of my team insists on plugging React into our huge web-based intranet system, breaks everything in sight but still insists he is right and we should all change everything to fit his new idea of how things should be done. In addition he spends at least half of every code-review explaining why our established naming conventions should be changed to the way he does it because he read an article by someone who worked on Farcebook who suggested some conventions. My question is: Where is the best place to bury a body? Just asking for a friend. ;P [Update] Our wonderful manager has moved him to another team. The complaints have already started. Now I am really asking for a friend!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Forogar wrote:
Where is the best place to bury a body?
IMHO, that's the wrong approach. I suggest instead promoting him to a position where he doesn't have access to source code. /ravi
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Forogar wrote:
Where is the best place to bury a body?
IMHO, that's the wrong approach. I suggest instead promoting him to a position where he doesn't have access to source code. /ravi
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Ravi Bhavnani wrote:
promoting him to a position where he doesn't have access to source code.
Company Historian, perhaps?
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.
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I have been a professional programmer/developer/whatever since 1980. I wrote my first working program in 1975 (it worked first time, and the rest is history). I know a lot of stuff, I have forgotten more stuff than a lot of people know, I have a PhD in CS and have worked every position (in five countries and two continents) from Junior Programmer on a mainframe to Director of Software Development in a couple of companies doing everything from expert systems to language interpreters to tape robot control. I have written standards documents at a lot of companies and trained many, many developers in HTML, XML, multi-threading, and other useful stuff. I have now taken a position as a Senior Software Engineer in the government as a sort of retirement job (the medical and pension plans are great!). Then a member of my team insists on plugging React into our huge web-based intranet system, breaks everything in sight but still insists he is right and we should all change everything to fit his new idea of how things should be done. In addition he spends at least half of every code-review explaining why our established naming conventions should be changed to the way he does it because he read an article by someone who worked on Farcebook who suggested some conventions. My question is: Where is the best place to bury a body? Just asking for a friend. ;P [Update] Our wonderful manager has moved him to another team. The complaints have already started. Now I am really asking for a friend!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
Just playing devil's advocate here: is it possible he's right (just overly enthusiastic)? In my example, I got to my current place where these HPCs are, "MVC is too hard", "Linq makes weird queries and is too hard", "ADO.NET is better than EF", etc, etc. Then running around babbling about adding memory to SQL Server because their crappy sprocs return every record that qualifies for a search, rather than one page's worth of things. Rewrote our main search into EF/linq, a little skip/take action later, our SQL memory problem disappeared. I don't know if React is a good or bad thing. We need to keep moving forward, but in a sensible manner. Maybe it should be added, but as a project unto itself? As opposed to, "I'm making this other change which doesn't require react, but while I'm up, I'll throw that in."
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I have been a professional programmer/developer/whatever since 1980. I wrote my first working program in 1975 (it worked first time, and the rest is history). I know a lot of stuff, I have forgotten more stuff than a lot of people know, I have a PhD in CS and have worked every position (in five countries and two continents) from Junior Programmer on a mainframe to Director of Software Development in a couple of companies doing everything from expert systems to language interpreters to tape robot control. I have written standards documents at a lot of companies and trained many, many developers in HTML, XML, multi-threading, and other useful stuff. I have now taken a position as a Senior Software Engineer in the government as a sort of retirement job (the medical and pension plans are great!). Then a member of my team insists on plugging React into our huge web-based intranet system, breaks everything in sight but still insists he is right and we should all change everything to fit his new idea of how things should be done. In addition he spends at least half of every code-review explaining why our established naming conventions should be changed to the way he does it because he read an article by someone who worked on Farcebook who suggested some conventions. My question is: Where is the best place to bury a body? Just asking for a friend. ;P [Update] Our wonderful manager has moved him to another team. The complaints have already started. Now I am really asking for a friend!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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I work for butchers, I could probably sell it as pork. However, if you make it look like an accident you may not have to hide it at all. However, that may be too... Humane. If you really want him to suffer, without breaking any laws, tell him you really need the application to print a report using Crystal Reports and he's the one who should make it because no one else is smart enough.
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I have been a professional programmer/developer/whatever since 1980. I wrote my first working program in 1975 (it worked first time, and the rest is history). I know a lot of stuff, I have forgotten more stuff than a lot of people know, I have a PhD in CS and have worked every position (in five countries and two continents) from Junior Programmer on a mainframe to Director of Software Development in a couple of companies doing everything from expert systems to language interpreters to tape robot control. I have written standards documents at a lot of companies and trained many, many developers in HTML, XML, multi-threading, and other useful stuff. I have now taken a position as a Senior Software Engineer in the government as a sort of retirement job (the medical and pension plans are great!). Then a member of my team insists on plugging React into our huge web-based intranet system, breaks everything in sight but still insists he is right and we should all change everything to fit his new idea of how things should be done. In addition he spends at least half of every code-review explaining why our established naming conventions should be changed to the way he does it because he read an article by someone who worked on Farcebook who suggested some conventions. My question is: Where is the best place to bury a body? Just asking for a friend. ;P [Update] Our wonderful manager has moved him to another team. The complaints have already started. Now I am really asking for a friend!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
I had a similar issue way back in the 1970s when I was working with IBM's excellent System 3/Model 12 systems. I was learning development at that time but the manager hired a "super star" just like the guy you describe. This new fellow was a complete idiot because he thought he could do no wrong. Well, he did plenty wrong. One day he came in and simply removed a disk while it was being backed up, scrambling the entire system to pieces. The operator, who I had trained to an expert capability was not in the computer room when this jerk simply did his thing so he could get on with his work. Other times he would take perfectly well written applications that did exactly what they were supposed to do and turn them into gargantuan nightmares filled with bugs and defects. By the time I left this position I had developed the entire ticket tracking and inventory systems, which were quite extensive at the time. Each system had a single operator intervention with the computer and then they could be left run overnight. These systems ran like clock work for months on a regular basis without a single issue. Before I left, I prepared exact instructions on how to update the source code and run the two systems. Well the jerk here thought he knew better. He took both systems and turned them into unworkable messes. When I cam back for a visit with some friends they told me that the inventories had not been completed in 6 weeks and the still couldn;t get them to run properly. So when a know-it-all shows up on the premises bury him at least 20 feet down, deep in a forest, and then pour lime on the body. Make sure the ditch is covered with used soil and ensure there is no trace of a burial... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Steve Naidamast Sr. Software Engineer Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com
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You should be free to state that "persistence of an opinion is not the same as knowledge or professionalism". However, the problem with these folks is that summary execution does not help, and they will keep talking even when the head is chronically severed from the body. We call them "zweefteef" but I can't seem to find a suitable translation.
