Reason for changing job
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MadMyche wrote:
The more productive you are, the more salary increase you get.
How do you measure productivity? Lines of code? Bugs solved? Meetings attended? I had a coworker who produced lots of lines of code... In a single function that only he understood and broke in production! Most "productive" guy on the team, except I wouldn't hire him if he paid me for it (unless he paid me so much that I didn't have to work anymore) X| It's hard to measure productivity for a programmer!
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Productivity is a measure that management makes up as they go along; and it is a comparison of how much you got done compared to what they think you should get done
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Productivity is a measure that management makes up as they go along; and it is a comparison of how much you got done compared to what they think you should get done
Director of Transmogrification Services Shinobi of Query Language Master of Yoda Conditional
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It's hard to measure productivity for a programmer
Which is why, as a freelancer, I prefer to work for small clients with no other IT input (or at least on small projects with no other IT input). "Productivity" is then a doddle for the client to quantify - it's how much they save (or generate) as a result of what I do for them, divided by their cost of hiring me. Or in another measure, how many days it takes to recover that cost. When there's a team involved, the client can get an overall figure for the team, but not the individuals in that team.
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Some overtime is expected at most companies, especially when a release to production happens
That's probably the worst time to be expecting overtime. That's when some of the most critical decisions are made (i.e. where a single bad decision can have the biggest negative impact) and you don't want your workers tired, stressed or resentful at that time. Manage your project and put in the overtime as soon as any slippage - including eating into any contingency - occurs.
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Most cities have office space outside the core. Unless there's a good reason to be located there (a law firm that needs to be close to a courthouse, say), paying for downtown office space is frivolous.
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The center in Rotterdam has quite a few businesses and they are there because it is reachable. If you're from the city, you can take public transport and always end up in the center relatively cheap and fast, at least cheaper and faster than taking a car. Of course you could always take a bike and be there in 10 to 40 minutes, depending on where in Rotterdam you live, or even faster with an electric bike. If you're from another city, like Amsterdam, Utrecht or The Hague, you also don't want to go to Rotterdam by car because you'll be hopelessly stuck in traffic and you'll still have to drive through your own city. Many people who live in cities don't even own a car because parking can be expensive. Public transport, on the other hand, goes straight to Rotterdam central. I'm taking Rotterdam as an example, but the same applies to Amsterdam, Utrecht and The Hague. If you're from any of the other cities in Randstad (the area that's roughly between those four cities) you might seriously want to consider taking public transport as well unless you don't mind being in traffic for over an hour. I live just outside the Randstad area and my only option is to take the bus, which would take me an hour to get to Rotterdam. It's doable for Rotterdam, but not so much if I have to go to any of the other cities. That said, it's been years since I've taken the bus. I only use public transport when I'm already in a city.
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I interviewed a guy for web development role. Me: "Why are you looking to change your job?" THE Candidate: "This company asks me to work extra hours & they don't have good parking facility" Me: "&.. What?" Excuse me? He says he couldn't park his car comfortably. Will you believe this? :)
Sure, maybe. There's a place that invited me for an interview that didn't own the parking spaces in front of it. Local govt owned them. Local govt put a 4 hour limit on it.. and enforced it too. So in your lunch break, you *had* to go out and reset the time, or get a fine. Absolute trash. There were other reasons to reject them but it would have been enough.
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oops, that really matters. If The Candidate could do well in the interview, We would even let him come in a caravan. :-D But he didn't do well, unfortunately.
Where does this caravan stand? Is it a long walk to the office? Or should I work from the caravan due to lockdown-rules? Can I move the caravan? ..and most important, does the caravan have an office-grade coffee-machine?
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Nand32 wrote:
THE Candidate: "This company asks me to work extra hours & they don't have good parking facility"
I think I interviewed this Candidate's brother one time. We asked him, "What are you looking for in your career here as a software dev?" Candidate: "Something local. Pays good and good hours." I was like, "Hey, I can't be bothered to hire someone who can't even take the time and energy to at least lie during the interview." :laugh:
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It's hard to measure productivity for a programmer
Which is why, as a freelancer, I prefer to work for small clients with no other IT input (or at least on small projects with no other IT input). "Productivity" is then a doddle for the client to quantify - it's how much they save (or generate) as a result of what I do for them, divided by their cost of hiring me. Or in another measure, how many days it takes to recover that cost. When there's a team involved, the client can get an overall figure for the team, but not the individuals in that team.
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Some overtime is expected at most companies, especially when a release to production happens
That's probably the worst time to be expecting overtime. That's when some of the most critical decisions are made (i.e. where a single bad decision can have the biggest negative impact) and you don't want your workers tired, stressed or resentful at that time. Manage your project and put in the overtime as soon as any slippage - including eating into any contingency - occurs.
I am on a team of Senior Developers at a multi-national engineering/manufacturing company... so these items are a little different in my world
Sander Rossel wrote:
It's hard to measure productivity for a programmer!
DerekT-P replied:
Which is why, as a freelancer, I prefer to work for small clients with no other IT input. "Productivity" is then a doddle for the client to quantify
My junior developers are all contracted in, their tasks have a budgeted time amount. I do give input and I do review their work. My bosses review their invoiced time and compare it to what was budgeted.
Jacquers wrote:
Some overtime is expected at most companies, especially when a release to production happen
DerekT-P replied:
That's probably the worst time to be expecting overtime.
That depends.... Our (team) projects all have time budgeted for the deployment projects as well as post-deployment support. But then again, if other parts of the company change up their data format or come up with something else weird... we may get some calls about what they did to gum up our works with the natural question of how am I going to fix it.
Director of Transmogrification Services Shinobi of Query Language Master of Yoda Conditional
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Where does this caravan stand? Is it a long walk to the office? Or should I work from the caravan due to lockdown-rules? Can I move the caravan? ..and most important, does the caravan have an office-grade coffee-machine?
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Nand32 wrote:
We would even let him come in a caravan
That sounds interesting, when can I start!? :laugh:
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I interviewed a guy for web development role. Me: "Why are you looking to change your job?" THE Candidate: "This company asks me to work extra hours & they don't have good parking facility" Me: "&.. What?" Excuse me? He says he couldn't park his car comfortably. Will you believe this? :)
Hi, I had the same situation with parking issue. Every morning I had to circling at least 20 minutes around my company to find a free parking place. If you wondering on the candidates answer, than you never been in this situation. You can't feel how frustrating it is.
Zoltan
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I am on a team of Senior Developers at a multi-national engineering/manufacturing company... so these items are a little different in my world
Sander Rossel wrote:
It's hard to measure productivity for a programmer!
DerekT-P replied:
Which is why, as a freelancer, I prefer to work for small clients with no other IT input. "Productivity" is then a doddle for the client to quantify
My junior developers are all contracted in, their tasks have a budgeted time amount. I do give input and I do review their work. My bosses review their invoiced time and compare it to what was budgeted.
Jacquers wrote:
Some overtime is expected at most companies, especially when a release to production happen
DerekT-P replied:
That's probably the worst time to be expecting overtime.
That depends.... Our (team) projects all have time budgeted for the deployment projects as well as post-deployment support. But then again, if other parts of the company change up their data format or come up with something else weird... we may get some calls about what they did to gum up our works with the natural question of how am I going to fix it.
Director of Transmogrification Services Shinobi of Query Language Master of Yoda Conditional
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other parts of the company change up their data format
Eeek. Yet another reason why I prefer to be in small companies where I am the IT department! However, one of my last roles before going freelance was as "Design Authority" for a household-name insurer. The role involved (among other things) making certain that all teams across the company followed the same principles, used compatible software, and made sure that there were no "unexpected" format changes! I was also able to identify and eliminate a lot of duplication. Having someone in a role like that (not necessarily with that title) has the potential to make a massive difference to how smoothly things can get into production. Re measuring productivity by comparing to a budget is a start, but is measuring the skill of the budget estimator just as much as that of the developer.
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Sander Rossel wrote:
when can I start!?
Maybe with Javascript first. :-\ :laugh: Just kidding. You are over qualified for the job. :-D
Nand32 wrote:
You are over qualified for the job.
This must be the function of office idiot then ;P
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I could've said that. If I come somewhere and it's not obvious where I can park I will ask about it. Going to work every day and not knowing if or where you can park can really be a source of daily stress. I worked somewhere in the city that required me to park in a parking garage. The nearest garage was €36 a day, so it could really add to your monthly costs as well. Since I was a contractor they didn't pay for my parking costs. I always parked at another garage, a 10 minute walk away, which was €12 a day (and added 20 minutes commute a day!). If my regular garage was closed or full, which happened a few time, I had to search for another garage which could add over 15 minutes to my commute and searching for a garage in a busy city is stressful enough as it is. For their own employees they had parking subscriptions or public transport subscriptions (they were near, and later, on, Utrecht Central). Public transport wasn't an option for me as it would make my commute six hours a day :laugh: I had a coworker at another customer who had over €500 a month on parking costs alone (but his employer paid for it). So yeah, parking is important.
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Isn't the bike a preferred method of transport in your neck o' the wood...
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Isn't the bike a preferred method of transport in your neck o' the wood...
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I interviewed a guy for web development role. Me: "Why are you looking to change your job?" THE Candidate: "This company asks me to work extra hours & they don't have good parking facility" Me: "&.. What?" Excuse me? He says he couldn't park his car comfortably. Will you believe this? :)
If you're in Europe, I can believe not being able to park his car comfortably. I scratched up the passenger side of the rental car pretty good in Killarney due to a narrow little lane and my lack of depth perception. On a side note, turns out it wasn't a good idea to go to Ireland for St. Patrick's Day this year...
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I interviewed a guy for web development role. Me: "Why are you looking to change your job?" THE Candidate: "This company asks me to work extra hours & they don't have good parking facility" Me: "&.. What?" Excuse me? He says he couldn't park his car comfortably. Will you believe this? :)
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Two very good reasons in my opinion. Extra hours? Not unless it's reciprocated with extra pay or extra time off. If the work is interesting, they'll often get some extra hours for free anyway. But it shouldn't be expected. Parking? What kind of idiots locate their office where parking is expensive or unavailable? If the execs take the bus, maybe the topic is open for discussion. Otherwise, pass.
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>What kind of idiots locate their office where parking is expensive or unavailable? In the Seattle area: Microsoft, Amazon, GoDaddy, etc. Everyone continues to build new office space in already crowded, high rent areas. Nearby real estate prices are ridiculous and commuting to those locations requires an excessive amount of time. Double that time if you want to use mass transit. Why don't they put satellite offices in the less crowded, lower rent, nearby cities that would LOVE to have them? I guess the AI hasn't pointed that out...
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Two very good reasons in my opinion. Extra hours? Not unless it's reciprocated with extra pay or extra time off. If the work is interesting, they'll often get some extra hours for free anyway. But it shouldn't be expected. Parking? What kind of idiots locate their office where parking is expensive or unavailable? If the execs take the bus, maybe the topic is open for discussion. Otherwise, pass.
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Where I am working at is located in a downtown and the company employs 25,00K people. There's not parking for everyone, and the company hasn't built enough lots or parking garages to handle everyone. Only employees above a certain grade get assigned parking; below that they get a tag let's them park in the associate tag's lot. Before becoming an employee I was a contractor. Contractors did not even get a tag. Often had to drive around for 1/2 hour to find parking.
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Nand32 wrote:
You are over qualified for the job.
This must be the function of office idiot then ;P
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