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  • L Lost User

    Where does this caravan stand? Is it a long walk to the office? Or should I work from the caravan due to lockdown-rules? Can I move the caravan? ..and most important, does the caravan have an office-grade coffee-machine?

    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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    Nand32
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    Yeah everything is there. But please don't ask for a Parking facility inside the caravan. That's a bit difficult. :-\

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    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

      Nand32 wrote:

      We would even let him come in a caravan

      That sounds interesting, when can I start!? :laugh:

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      Nand32
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      :laugh:

      Sander Rossel wrote:

      when can I start!?

      Maybe with Javascript first. :-\ :laugh: Just kidding. You are over qualified for the job. :-D

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        I interviewed a guy for web development role. Me: "Why are you looking to change your job?" THE Candidate: "This company asks me to work extra hours & they don't have good parking facility" Me: "&.. What?" Excuse me? He says he couldn't park his car comfortably. Will you believe this? :)

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        Zoltan Varnai
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        Hi, I had the same situation with parking issue. Every morning I had to circling at least 20 minutes around my company to find a free parking place. If you wondering on the candidates answer, than you never been in this situation. You can't feel how frustrating it is.

        Zoltan

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        • M MadMyche

          I am on a team of Senior Developers at a multi-national engineering/manufacturing company... so these items are a little different in my world

          Sander Rossel wrote:

          It's hard to measure productivity for a programmer!

          DerekT-P replied:

          Which is why, as a freelancer, I prefer to work for small clients with no other IT input. "Productivity" is then a doddle for the client to quantify

          My junior developers are all contracted in, their tasks have a budgeted time amount. I do give input and I do review their work. My bosses review their invoiced time and compare it to what was budgeted.

          Jacquers wrote:

          Some overtime is expected at most companies, especially when a release to production happen

          DerekT-P replied:

          That's probably the worst time to be expecting overtime.

          That depends.... Our (team) projects all have time budgeted for the deployment projects as well as post-deployment support. But then again, if other parts of the company change up their data format or come up with something else weird... we may get some calls about what they did to gum up our works with the natural question of how am I going to fix it.

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          other parts of the company change up their data format

          Eeek. Yet another reason why I prefer to be in small companies where I am the IT department! However, one of my last roles before going freelance was as "Design Authority" for a household-name insurer. The role involved (among other things) making certain that all teams across the company followed the same principles, used compatible software, and made sure that there were no "unexpected" format changes! I was also able to identify and eliminate a lot of duplication. Having someone in a role like that (not necessarily with that title) has the potential to make a massive difference to how smoothly things can get into production. Re measuring productivity by comparing to a budget is a start, but is measuring the skill of the budget estimator just as much as that of the developer.

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            :laugh:

            Sander Rossel wrote:

            when can I start!?

            Maybe with Javascript first. :-\ :laugh: Just kidding. You are over qualified for the job. :-D

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            Sander Rossel
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            Nand32 wrote:

            You are over qualified for the job.

            This must be the function of office idiot then ;P

            Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

              I could've said that. If I come somewhere and it's not obvious where I can park I will ask about it. Going to work every day and not knowing if or where you can park can really be a source of daily stress. I worked somewhere in the city that required me to park in a parking garage. The nearest garage was €36 a day, so it could really add to your monthly costs as well. Since I was a contractor they didn't pay for my parking costs. I always parked at another garage, a 10 minute walk away, which was €12 a day (and added 20 minutes commute a day!). If my regular garage was closed or full, which happened a few time, I had to search for another garage which could add over 15 minutes to my commute and searching for a garage in a busy city is stressful enough as it is. For their own employees they had parking subscriptions or public transport subscriptions (they were near, and later, on, Utrecht Central). Public transport wasn't an option for me as it would make my commute six hours a day :laugh: I had a coworker at another customer who had over €500 a month on parking costs alone (but his employer paid for it). So yeah, parking is important.

              Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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              glennPattonWork3
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              Isn't the bike a preferred method of transport in your neck o' the wood...

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                Isn't the bike a preferred method of transport in your neck o' the wood...

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                Sander Rossel
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                Yes, for many :D

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                • N Nand32

                  I interviewed a guy for web development role. Me: "Why are you looking to change your job?" THE Candidate: "This company asks me to work extra hours & they don't have good parking facility" Me: "&.. What?" Excuse me? He says he couldn't park his car comfortably. Will you believe this? :)

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                  agolddog
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                  If you're in Europe, I can believe not being able to park his car comfortably. I scratched up the passenger side of the rental car pretty good in Killarney due to a narrow little lane and my lack of depth perception. On a side note, turns out it wasn't a good idea to go to Ireland for St. Patrick's Day this year...

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                  • N Nand32

                    I interviewed a guy for web development role. Me: "Why are you looking to change your job?" THE Candidate: "This company asks me to work extra hours & they don't have good parking facility" Me: "&.. What?" Excuse me? He says he couldn't park his car comfortably. Will you believe this? :)

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                    salz150
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                    I can sympathize with that. If you work at an office downtown and you have to find parking on the street or something that would get old really fast. Thats one of the reasons I wouldn't want to work downtown.

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                    • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

                      Two very good reasons in my opinion. Extra hours? Not unless it's reciprocated with extra pay or extra time off. If the work is interesting, they'll often get some extra hours for free anyway. But it shouldn't be expected. Parking? What kind of idiots locate their office where parking is expensive or unavailable? If the execs take the bus, maybe the topic is open for discussion. Otherwise, pass.

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                      OffCenter
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                      >What kind of idiots locate their office where parking is expensive or unavailable? In the Seattle area: Microsoft, Amazon, GoDaddy, etc. Everyone continues to build new office space in already crowded, high rent areas. Nearby real estate prices are ridiculous and commuting to those locations requires an excessive amount of time. Double that time if you want to use mass transit. Why don't they put satellite offices in the less crowded, lower rent, nearby cities that would LOVE to have them? I guess the AI hasn't pointed that out...

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                      • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

                        Two very good reasons in my opinion. Extra hours? Not unless it's reciprocated with extra pay or extra time off. If the work is interesting, they'll often get some extra hours for free anyway. But it shouldn't be expected. Parking? What kind of idiots locate their office where parking is expensive or unavailable? If the execs take the bus, maybe the topic is open for discussion. Otherwise, pass.

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                        Where I am working at is located in a downtown and the company employs 25,00K people. There's not parking for everyone, and the company hasn't built enough lots or parking garages to handle everyone. Only employees above a certain grade get assigned parking; below that they get a tag let's them park in the associate tag's lot. Before becoming an employee I was a contractor. Contractors did not even get a tag. Often had to drive around for 1/2 hour to find parking.

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                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                          Nand32 wrote:

                          You are over qualified for the job.

                          This must be the function of office idiot then ;P

                          Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                          Nand32
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                          Sander Rossel wrote:

                          This must be the function of office idiot then

                          That's in between you & the office idiot :-D :laugh:

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