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    Sander Rossel
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    I know, don't give out my email address to strangers. But apparently, I'm past that point. Fact is, since about two months I receive daily spam messages. "H i m y n a m e i s C h r i s t o p h e r" "Sander Rossel, your bol.com gift card is ready!" (I get this one daily, from [probably randomly generated]@[same randomly generated].us) "Petlove - [Spanish(?)]" How can I find out where they come from and how can I stop them, if this is at all possible? These mails have "unsubscribe?" links, which I'm obviously not going to click :sigh:

    Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

      I know, don't give out my email address to strangers. But apparently, I'm past that point. Fact is, since about two months I receive daily spam messages. "H i m y n a m e i s C h r i s t o p h e r" "Sander Rossel, your bol.com gift card is ready!" (I get this one daily, from [probably randomly generated]@[same randomly generated].us) "Petlove - [Spanish(?)]" How can I find out where they come from and how can I stop them, if this is at all possible? These mails have "unsubscribe?" links, which I'm obviously not going to click :sigh:

      Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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      Dave Kreskowiak
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      Get a new email address. That's the only proactive way to stop spam. Everything else is reactive and has to learn what spam is before it can filter it out.

      Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles.
      Dave Kreskowiak

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      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

        I know, don't give out my email address to strangers. But apparently, I'm past that point. Fact is, since about two months I receive daily spam messages. "H i m y n a m e i s C h r i s t o p h e r" "Sander Rossel, your bol.com gift card is ready!" (I get this one daily, from [probably randomly generated]@[same randomly generated].us) "Petlove - [Spanish(?)]" How can I find out where they come from and how can I stop them, if this is at all possible? These mails have "unsubscribe?" links, which I'm obviously not going to click :sigh:

        Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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        Basildane
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        Speaking as someone who has run Exchange since 1994, i can tell you it is a pretty complex subject. It's a whole science. The technology is always changing, the criminals are finding new ways to try and exploit people. It's a war. It's a war I mean to win. But you have to keep on top of your edge firewalls, examine logs daily. DKIM and SPF are critical. Careful configuration of DNS based blacklists are critical. 99.99% of spam is dropped by simply blocking non-conforming inbound messages. I then have my firewall block their subnets for a year to cut the noise traffic. Right this minute I have over 1/2 million subnets blocked on an edge firewall... All of that is totally automated but I have to keep on top of it to make sure nothing gets through. On our entire infrastructure, I can remember getting 1 spam email in the last 2 months. (the firewall drops about 1 a second).

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        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

          I know, don't give out my email address to strangers. But apparently, I'm past that point. Fact is, since about two months I receive daily spam messages. "H i m y n a m e i s C h r i s t o p h e r" "Sander Rossel, your bol.com gift card is ready!" (I get this one daily, from [probably randomly generated]@[same randomly generated].us) "Petlove - [Spanish(?)]" How can I find out where they come from and how can I stop them, if this is at all possible? These mails have "unsubscribe?" links, which I'm obviously not going to click :sigh:

          Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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          dandy72
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          All I can say is don't bother setting up rules if you're using Windows 10's built-in email client. I don't know how Microsoft can claim it works *at all*.

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          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

            I know, don't give out my email address to strangers. But apparently, I'm past that point. Fact is, since about two months I receive daily spam messages. "H i m y n a m e i s C h r i s t o p h e r" "Sander Rossel, your bol.com gift card is ready!" (I get this one daily, from [probably randomly generated]@[same randomly generated].us) "Petlove - [Spanish(?)]" How can I find out where they come from and how can I stop them, if this is at all possible? These mails have "unsubscribe?" links, which I'm obviously not going to click :sigh:

            Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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            I would be curious what the domain was for your spam you are talking about. I've gotten to the point where I can recognize a "NameCheap.com" spam without even doing a Whois on it. Did it come from a .info, .xyz, .pw domain for example? You need to 100% block ALL of those - permanently. They are 100% spam.

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            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

              I know, don't give out my email address to strangers. But apparently, I'm past that point. Fact is, since about two months I receive daily spam messages. "H i m y n a m e i s C h r i s t o p h e r" "Sander Rossel, your bol.com gift card is ready!" (I get this one daily, from [probably randomly generated]@[same randomly generated].us) "Petlove - [Spanish(?)]" How can I find out where they come from and how can I stop them, if this is at all possible? These mails have "unsubscribe?" links, which I'm obviously not going to click :sigh:

              Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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              raddevus
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              Sander Rossel wrote:

              How can I find out where they come from and how can I stop them, if this is at all possible?

              I have an email for registering things. I've found that the biggest place that SPAM comes from is a DOMAIN registration. Do you have a web domain registered somewhere? Check and see if the admin email address is the same as the one you are getting the spam at.

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              • D Dave Kreskowiak

                Get a new email address. That's the only proactive way to stop spam. Everything else is reactive and has to learn what spam is before it can filter it out.

                Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles.
                Dave Kreskowiak

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                Sander Rossel
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                That's not really an option. Besides, it'll only be a matter of time before I get spam on the new address too :sigh:

                Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                • B Basildane

                  Speaking as someone who has run Exchange since 1994, i can tell you it is a pretty complex subject. It's a whole science. The technology is always changing, the criminals are finding new ways to try and exploit people. It's a war. It's a war I mean to win. But you have to keep on top of your edge firewalls, examine logs daily. DKIM and SPF are critical. Careful configuration of DNS based blacklists are critical. 99.99% of spam is dropped by simply blocking non-conforming inbound messages. I then have my firewall block their subnets for a year to cut the noise traffic. Right this minute I have over 1/2 million subnets blocked on an edge firewall... All of that is totally automated but I have to keep on top of it to make sure nothing gets through. On our entire infrastructure, I can remember getting 1 spam email in the last 2 months. (the firewall drops about 1 a second).

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                  Sander Rossel
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                  This is my GMail account, don't think I have all those options (or want to get that deep into it) ;)

                  Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                    I know, don't give out my email address to strangers. But apparently, I'm past that point. Fact is, since about two months I receive daily spam messages. "H i m y n a m e i s C h r i s t o p h e r" "Sander Rossel, your bol.com gift card is ready!" (I get this one daily, from [probably randomly generated]@[same randomly generated].us) "Petlove - [Spanish(?)]" How can I find out where they come from and how can I stop them, if this is at all possible? These mails have "unsubscribe?" links, which I'm obviously not going to click :sigh:

                    Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                    Johnny J
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                    If you send me your credit card number, expiration date and CVC code, I'll make sure they stop right away... I promise! :-\

                    Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
                    Anonymous
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                    The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
                    Winston Churchill, 1944
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                    Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.
                    Mark Twain

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                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                      That's not really an option. Besides, it'll only be a matter of time before I get spam on the new address too :sigh:

                      Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                      Dave Kreskowiak
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                      Yep! My work email address gets spam and the only place that address has ever been used is on some vendor websites. So, at least one of them has been selling their customer/address list.

                      Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles.
                      Dave Kreskowiak

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                        Sander Rossel wrote:

                        How can I find out where they come from and how can I stop them, if this is at all possible?

                        I have an email for registering things. I've found that the biggest place that SPAM comes from is a DOMAIN registration. Do you have a web domain registered somewhere? Check and see if the admin email address is the same as the one you are getting the spam at.

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                        Johnny J
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                        raddevus wrote:

                        I've found that the biggest place that SPAM comes from is a DOMAIN registration.

                        Blame yourself if you chose GoDaddy just because it's (you're) cheap... ;P

                        Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
                        Anonymous
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                        The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
                        Winston Churchill, 1944
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                        Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.
                        Mark Twain

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                          I would be curious what the domain was for your spam you are talking about. I've gotten to the point where I can recognize a "NameCheap.com" spam without even doing a Whois on it. Did it come from a .info, .xyz, .pw domain for example? You need to 100% block ALL of those - permanently. They are 100% spam.

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                          Sander Rossel
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                          Haven't checked, I just had one from .us. I don't doubt that it is spam, even without looking at the domain. It gets in my spam folder, but I really just don't want it at all.

                          Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                          • D Dave Kreskowiak

                            Get a new email address. That's the only proactive way to stop spam. Everything else is reactive and has to learn what spam is before it can filter it out.

                            Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles.
                            Dave Kreskowiak

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                            dandy72
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                            The solution of last resort, IMO. You're seriously inconveniencing all your contacts more than anything else. And it's not much of a long-term solution either - the reality is, you don't have to give out a new email address to *anyone* for the spammers to start sending junk to it. It'll be discovered sooner or later, and then they all start sharing the address with their buddies. I've registered accounts with variations of my name on a few of the more popular free email systems, and I can guarantee some of these have *never* been shared with anyone. That includes systems that have been put together by people who (you'd think) have a pretty good grip by now on how to handle spam (Gmail and Outlook among others). Yet spam still makes it in. That means there'd be plenty more coming in on systems that aren't as good at identifying spam.

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                              Sander Rossel wrote:

                              How can I find out where they come from and how can I stop them, if this is at all possible?

                              I have an email for registering things. I've found that the biggest place that SPAM comes from is a DOMAIN registration. Do you have a web domain registered somewhere? Check and see if the admin email address is the same as the one you are getting the spam at.

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                              Sander Rossel
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                              Yes I do, multiple. That could very well be the source, but that information is public I think (which I think is criminal and the complete opposite of GDPR). I should look into that. It's like when I registered my company at the CoC and it turned out that they do not only display my data in public, but also sell it. I've been getting daily to weekly phone calls about gas and electricity since then and it's mandatory by law X| Luckily the CoC is not allowed to do that anymore, but all these companies still have my number, got five phone calls this week alone :mad:

                              Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                                If you send me your credit card number, expiration date and CVC code, I'll make sure they stop right away... I promise! :-\

                                Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
                                Anonymous
                                -----
                                The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
                                Winston Churchill, 1944
                                -----
                                Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.
                                Mark Twain

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                                Thanks, please reply to imnotanidjit@gmail.com and I'll give you the requested information. You may need the login to my email as well so you can look at the spam messages. Do you think you need my bank credentials as well, just in case? You can also send me any applications that I can run to clean my computer :D

                                Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                                • D Dave Kreskowiak

                                  Yep! My work email address gets spam and the only place that address has ever been used is on some vendor websites. So, at least one of them has been selling their customer/address list.

                                  Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles.
                                  Dave Kreskowiak

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                                  Sander Rossel
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                                  Sue them all, just in case :D

                                  Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                    Yes I do, multiple. That could very well be the source, but that information is public I think (which I think is criminal and the complete opposite of GDPR). I should look into that. It's like when I registered my company at the CoC and it turned out that they do not only display my data in public, but also sell it. I've been getting daily to weekly phone calls about gas and electricity since then and it's mandatory by law X| Luckily the CoC is not allowed to do that anymore, but all these companies still have my number, got five phone calls this week alone :mad:

                                    Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                                    There was a point where one of my registered domains had my _main_ email address and I was getting 5 spam email a day. Then I changed the domain registration to my _dumping-ground-email-address_ and the spam started going to the dumping ground the next day. Instantly cleaned up the problem on my _main_ email.

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                                      raddevus wrote:

                                      I've found that the biggest place that SPAM comes from is a DOMAIN registration.

                                      Blame yourself if you chose GoDaddy just because it's (you're) cheap... ;P

                                      Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
                                      Anonymous
                                      -----
                                      The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
                                      Winston Churchill, 1944
                                      -----
                                      Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.
                                      Mark Twain

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                                      raddevus
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                                      No, mine are registered via google domains. Google is inexpensive and great and easy to use. Also, I moved away from GoDaddy a few years ago now. It's a trash-hole. :laugh:

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                                      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                        Haven't checked, I just had one from .us. I don't doubt that it is spam, even without looking at the domain. It gets in my spam folder, but I really just don't want it at all.

                                        Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                                        Basildane
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                                        Oh oh oh oh!!!! Please do a whois lookup on that .us domain. Or just give me the full domain name I will do it. PLEASE I want to hear.

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                                          Oh oh oh oh!!!! Please do a whois lookup on that .us domain. Or just give me the full domain name I will do it. PLEASE I want to hear.

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                                          V683V6PKG.us, no data / failed to get data. This is the first time I looked at the domain name. Tomorrow I'll probably get it again, but with another generated code.

                                          Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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