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  • C Chris Meech

    Normally, I can just make a decision pretty quick and live with the consequences. But I'm faced with one that's got no middle ground for compromise. So I thought I'd seek out some helpful suggestions from my fellow CPians. About three months ago, I purchased a pair of tickets for my wife and I to go see Neil Young and Crazy Horse perform here in Toronto. The two of us have really been looking forward to this concert and are huge fans. We have just discovered though that the night of the concert, just happens to be the same night as our youngest daughter's grade eight graduation ceremony. Too make matters worse, she is probably going to be winning several awards and plaques and within the next day or two, we will hear whether she has been selected to give the validictory speech. My selfish evil side says go to the concert and my doting father side says go to the graduation ceremony. Unhappily I can not do both. What say you guys and gals? Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "Microsoft hasn't ever enforced its patents. Apparently they keep them for defensive reasons only. Or, they could be waiting 'til they have a critical mass of patents, enforce them all at once and win the game of Risk that they're playing with the world." Chris Sells Feb 18, 2003.

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    peterchen
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    grad ceremony. If you go there and it's boring, well, no big surprise. But imagine seing Neil and being bored... :suss: (I've got mixed feelings towards the Stones since I saw them in concert...) To make matters better, tell your daughter you can't be at the grad because of the concert, but show up ;P


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    • C Chris Meech

      Daniel Turini wrote: if Neil Young is more important to you than your own daughter Man do you know how to re-ask a question? When you put it that way, it doesn't take long to reach an answer. Tickets, anyone. Which reminds me of a funny saying. Do you know why you it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one. :-D Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "Microsoft hasn't ever enforced its patents. Apparently they keep them for defensive reasons only. Or, they could be waiting 'til they have a critical mass of patents, enforce them all at once and win the game of Risk that they're playing with the world." Chris Sells Feb 18, 2003.

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      :) Good one - quotable, actually. Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one. Chris Meech on deciding whether to go to his daughters graduation or a Neil Young concert

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      • C Chris Meech

        Normally, I can just make a decision pretty quick and live with the consequences. But I'm faced with one that's got no middle ground for compromise. So I thought I'd seek out some helpful suggestions from my fellow CPians. About three months ago, I purchased a pair of tickets for my wife and I to go see Neil Young and Crazy Horse perform here in Toronto. The two of us have really been looking forward to this concert and are huge fans. We have just discovered though that the night of the concert, just happens to be the same night as our youngest daughter's grade eight graduation ceremony. Too make matters worse, she is probably going to be winning several awards and plaques and within the next day or two, we will hear whether she has been selected to give the validictory speech. My selfish evil side says go to the concert and my doting father side says go to the graduation ceremony. Unhappily I can not do both. What say you guys and gals? Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "Microsoft hasn't ever enforced its patents. Apparently they keep them for defensive reasons only. Or, they could be waiting 'til they have a critical mass of patents, enforce them all at once and win the game of Risk that they're playing with the world." Chris Sells Feb 18, 2003.

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        Weiye Chen
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        This is a scene of a grade 8 graduation ceremony. One of the graduates has won several awards and many people are happy for her. She should be feeling the same but the people she wants to share most with aren't present.:(( Also, just imagine how is she going to feel when she sees her friends taking photos happily together with their parents?:(( You can say that the above story seems pretty dramatic, but sometimes they do reflect what the real life is all about. Weiye, Chen When pursuing your dreams, don't forget to enjoy your life...

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        • C Chris Meech

          Normally, I can just make a decision pretty quick and live with the consequences. But I'm faced with one that's got no middle ground for compromise. So I thought I'd seek out some helpful suggestions from my fellow CPians. About three months ago, I purchased a pair of tickets for my wife and I to go see Neil Young and Crazy Horse perform here in Toronto. The two of us have really been looking forward to this concert and are huge fans. We have just discovered though that the night of the concert, just happens to be the same night as our youngest daughter's grade eight graduation ceremony. Too make matters worse, she is probably going to be winning several awards and plaques and within the next day or two, we will hear whether she has been selected to give the validictory speech. My selfish evil side says go to the concert and my doting father side says go to the graduation ceremony. Unhappily I can not do both. What say you guys and gals? Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "Microsoft hasn't ever enforced its patents. Apparently they keep them for defensive reasons only. Or, they could be waiting 'til they have a critical mass of patents, enforce them all at once and win the game of Risk that they're playing with the world." Chris Sells Feb 18, 2003.

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          Todd C Wilson
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          eBay the tickets and go to the kid's school function. Reasoning: you have to live with both the kid and the wife, neither of which (esp. the wife) that will let you forget you didn't show up for something as "important" as this (never mind it will be boring, your butt will fall asleep on the chairs, and nobodoy will remember it a month from now). Then find a concert of something you like that they/she doesn't, and buy just one ticket.


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          • C Chris Meech

            Normally, I can just make a decision pretty quick and live with the consequences. But I'm faced with one that's got no middle ground for compromise. So I thought I'd seek out some helpful suggestions from my fellow CPians. About three months ago, I purchased a pair of tickets for my wife and I to go see Neil Young and Crazy Horse perform here in Toronto. The two of us have really been looking forward to this concert and are huge fans. We have just discovered though that the night of the concert, just happens to be the same night as our youngest daughter's grade eight graduation ceremony. Too make matters worse, she is probably going to be winning several awards and plaques and within the next day or two, we will hear whether she has been selected to give the validictory speech. My selfish evil side says go to the concert and my doting father side says go to the graduation ceremony. Unhappily I can not do both. What say you guys and gals? Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "Microsoft hasn't ever enforced its patents. Apparently they keep them for defensive reasons only. Or, they could be waiting 'til they have a critical mass of patents, enforce them all at once and win the game of Risk that they're playing with the world." Chris Sells Feb 18, 2003.

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            You're a parent. Your children come before fun. I'm sorry, but it's in the parent's manual. (I should know, I stole it from mine):)

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              This is a scene of a grade 8 graduation ceremony. One of the graduates has won several awards and many people are happy for her. She should be feeling the same but the people she wants to share most with aren't present.:(( Also, just imagine how is she going to feel when she sees her friends taking photos happily together with their parents?:(( You can say that the above story seems pretty dramatic, but sometimes they do reflect what the real life is all about. Weiye, Chen When pursuing your dreams, don't forget to enjoy your life...

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              Chris Meech
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              Weiye Chen wrote: She should be feeling the same but the people she wants to share most with aren't present. Also, just imagine how is she going to feel when she sees her friends taking photos happily together with their parents? Oh man, you not only open up the wound, you're pouring salt in it too! I'm about to get the damn scissors out and cut up the friggin tickets. Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "Microsoft hasn't ever enforced its patents. Apparently they keep them for defensive reasons only. Or, they could be waiting 'til they have a critical mass of patents, enforce them all at once and win the game of Risk that they're playing with the world." Chris Sells Feb 18, 2003.

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              • C Chris Meech

                Normally, I can just make a decision pretty quick and live with the consequences. But I'm faced with one that's got no middle ground for compromise. So I thought I'd seek out some helpful suggestions from my fellow CPians. About three months ago, I purchased a pair of tickets for my wife and I to go see Neil Young and Crazy Horse perform here in Toronto. The two of us have really been looking forward to this concert and are huge fans. We have just discovered though that the night of the concert, just happens to be the same night as our youngest daughter's grade eight graduation ceremony. Too make matters worse, she is probably going to be winning several awards and plaques and within the next day or two, we will hear whether she has been selected to give the validictory speech. My selfish evil side says go to the concert and my doting father side says go to the graduation ceremony. Unhappily I can not do both. What say you guys and gals? Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "Microsoft hasn't ever enforced its patents. Apparently they keep them for defensive reasons only. Or, they could be waiting 'til they have a critical mass of patents, enforce them all at once and win the game of Risk that they're playing with the world." Chris Sells Feb 18, 2003.

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                Paul Watson
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                I can't believe you have all missed the obvious; Move the grade 8 school graduation to the concert. Imagine Neil Young or Crazy Horse presenting the "Most improved speller" award to little Timothy and the "Star Pupil" award to your daughter. It will be crazy... horse... man! Failing that; What Meg said :)

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                • C Chris Meech

                  Normally, I can just make a decision pretty quick and live with the consequences. But I'm faced with one that's got no middle ground for compromise. So I thought I'd seek out some helpful suggestions from my fellow CPians. About three months ago, I purchased a pair of tickets for my wife and I to go see Neil Young and Crazy Horse perform here in Toronto. The two of us have really been looking forward to this concert and are huge fans. We have just discovered though that the night of the concert, just happens to be the same night as our youngest daughter's grade eight graduation ceremony. Too make matters worse, she is probably going to be winning several awards and plaques and within the next day or two, we will hear whether she has been selected to give the validictory speech. My selfish evil side says go to the concert and my doting father side says go to the graduation ceremony. Unhappily I can not do both. What say you guys and gals? Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "Microsoft hasn't ever enforced its patents. Apparently they keep them for defensive reasons only. Or, they could be waiting 'til they have a critical mass of patents, enforce them all at once and win the game of Risk that they're playing with the world." Chris Sells Feb 18, 2003.

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                  I don't know if it's common over there - but in this country it's possible to buy tickets on secondhand sites - what about trying to sell them? You should have enough time... [EDIT] Okay I see this has been suggested already, but I still think it's a good idea. [/EDIT] Paul ;) I have been afraid always. When you see something insurmountable ahead of you, say to yourself: "All right! I am afraid. Now that I've been properly afraid, let's go forward." That is the whole secret. - Jeanne d'Arc

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                  • P Paul Watson

                    I can't believe you have all missed the obvious; Move the grade 8 school graduation to the concert. Imagine Neil Young or Crazy Horse presenting the "Most improved speller" award to little Timothy and the "Star Pupil" award to your daughter. It will be crazy... horse... man! Failing that; What Meg said :)

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                    Chris Meech
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                    Paul Watson wrote: Move the grade 8 school graduation to the concert. How about we get Neil and the band to come to the graduation ceremony. I mean who wouldn't want to hear 'This Note's for you' as you make your way on stage to receive that piece of paper that lets you out of grade school. And after all it could be argued that 'I've seen the needle and the damage done' is highly instructional and provides a good educational message. Paul, this is getting way outta hand, don't you think? :-D Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "Microsoft hasn't ever enforced its patents. Apparently they keep them for defensive reasons only. Or, they could be waiting 'til they have a critical mass of patents, enforce them all at once and win the game of Risk that they're playing with the world." Chris Sells Feb 18, 2003.

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                    • J Jason Henderson

                      Scalp the tickets and go to your daughter's graduation ceremony. You'll never forgive yourself if you don't.

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                      David Wulff
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                      I say scalp the daughter and go to the concert... :-O


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                      • J Jason Henderson

                        Scalp the tickets and go to your daughter's graduation ceremony. You'll never forgive yourself if you don't.

                        Jason Henderson

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                        "If you are going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill

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                        Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                        I couldn't have put it better myself. Our children are so precious, and our time with them all too limited. Anna :rose: Homepage | My life in tears "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In

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                        • C Chris Meech

                          Normally, I can just make a decision pretty quick and live with the consequences. But I'm faced with one that's got no middle ground for compromise. So I thought I'd seek out some helpful suggestions from my fellow CPians. About three months ago, I purchased a pair of tickets for my wife and I to go see Neil Young and Crazy Horse perform here in Toronto. The two of us have really been looking forward to this concert and are huge fans. We have just discovered though that the night of the concert, just happens to be the same night as our youngest daughter's grade eight graduation ceremony. Too make matters worse, she is probably going to be winning several awards and plaques and within the next day or two, we will hear whether she has been selected to give the validictory speech. My selfish evil side says go to the concert and my doting father side says go to the graduation ceremony. Unhappily I can not do both. What say you guys and gals? Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "Microsoft hasn't ever enforced its patents. Apparently they keep them for defensive reasons only. Or, they could be waiting 'til they have a critical mass of patents, enforce them all at once and win the game of Risk that they're playing with the world." Chris Sells Feb 18, 2003.

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                          Christopher Duncan
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                          What dilemma? She's your daughter. Neil Young is not. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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                            I say scalp the daughter and go to the concert... :-O


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                            Ryan Binns
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                            David Wulff wrote: I say scalp the daughter and go to the concert... It takes an uncommon mind... :) Ryan Being little and getting pushed around by big guys all my life I guess I compensate by pushing electrons and holes around. What a bully I am, but I do enjoy making subatomic particles hop at my bidding - Roger Wright (2nd April 2003, The Lounge)
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                              I say scalp the daughter and go to the concert... :-O


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                              "It is a helpless feeling to be unable to make something so terribly wrong... right."

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                              RChin
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                              Right on:):laugh:

                              There are times in your life where you just have to be a little bit selfish. Am I the only one with this twisted thought, or is this just because I have yet to experience fatherhood?


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                              • C Chris Meech

                                Normally, I can just make a decision pretty quick and live with the consequences. But I'm faced with one that's got no middle ground for compromise. So I thought I'd seek out some helpful suggestions from my fellow CPians. About three months ago, I purchased a pair of tickets for my wife and I to go see Neil Young and Crazy Horse perform here in Toronto. The two of us have really been looking forward to this concert and are huge fans. We have just discovered though that the night of the concert, just happens to be the same night as our youngest daughter's grade eight graduation ceremony. Too make matters worse, she is probably going to be winning several awards and plaques and within the next day or two, we will hear whether she has been selected to give the validictory speech. My selfish evil side says go to the concert and my doting father side says go to the graduation ceremony. Unhappily I can not do both. What say you guys and gals? Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "Microsoft hasn't ever enforced its patents. Apparently they keep them for defensive reasons only. Or, they could be waiting 'til they have a critical mass of patents, enforce them all at once and win the game of Risk that they're playing with the world." Chris Sells Feb 18, 2003.

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                                Doug Goulden
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                                Be a doting father, concerts come and go, but your daughter will graduate 8th grade exactly once. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                                • C Chris Meech

                                  Normally, I can just make a decision pretty quick and live with the consequences. But I'm faced with one that's got no middle ground for compromise. So I thought I'd seek out some helpful suggestions from my fellow CPians. About three months ago, I purchased a pair of tickets for my wife and I to go see Neil Young and Crazy Horse perform here in Toronto. The two of us have really been looking forward to this concert and are huge fans. We have just discovered though that the night of the concert, just happens to be the same night as our youngest daughter's grade eight graduation ceremony. Too make matters worse, she is probably going to be winning several awards and plaques and within the next day or two, we will hear whether she has been selected to give the validictory speech. My selfish evil side says go to the concert and my doting father side says go to the graduation ceremony. Unhappily I can not do both. What say you guys and gals? Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "Microsoft hasn't ever enforced its patents. Apparently they keep them for defensive reasons only. Or, they could be waiting 'til they have a critical mass of patents, enforce them all at once and win the game of Risk that they're playing with the world." Chris Sells Feb 18, 2003.

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                                  Ernest Laurentin
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                                  No dilema at all, go to your daughter's graduation. I still can remember that my parent [father] didn't come to any of my graduation ceremony (and I was a very good student). Is it good that parents have other priorities than their child? ÿFor the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world. - John 6:33

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                                  • C Chris Meech

                                    Normally, I can just make a decision pretty quick and live with the consequences. But I'm faced with one that's got no middle ground for compromise. So I thought I'd seek out some helpful suggestions from my fellow CPians. About three months ago, I purchased a pair of tickets for my wife and I to go see Neil Young and Crazy Horse perform here in Toronto. The two of us have really been looking forward to this concert and are huge fans. We have just discovered though that the night of the concert, just happens to be the same night as our youngest daughter's grade eight graduation ceremony. Too make matters worse, she is probably going to be winning several awards and plaques and within the next day or two, we will hear whether she has been selected to give the validictory speech. My selfish evil side says go to the concert and my doting father side says go to the graduation ceremony. Unhappily I can not do both. What say you guys and gals? Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "Microsoft hasn't ever enforced its patents. Apparently they keep them for defensive reasons only. Or, they could be waiting 'til they have a critical mass of patents, enforce them all at once and win the game of Risk that they're playing with the world." Chris Sells Feb 18, 2003.

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                                    dorkshoe
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                                    Okay..so, who actually cares about 8th grade graduation? I mean I didnt give a crap when I was 13..I still had to go to high school the next year. Does your daughter even want to go? -dork

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                                      Okay..so, who actually cares about 8th grade graduation? I mean I didnt give a crap when I was 13..I still had to go to high school the next year. Does your daughter even want to go? -dork

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                                      Chris Meech
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                                      You raise a valid point. In this case though, I know my daughter is quite the 'keener' and academic achiever. She has even learned sign language because she wants to become a 'gorilla scientist' and continue the work of teaching gorillas to communicate with humans. This has become her life's work since she was six or seven. How many thirteen year old's plan their life this way? I'll be missing the concert :((:((, but her excitement and happiness :):) at graduation should make up for it. Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "Microsoft hasn't ever enforced its patents. Apparently they keep them for defensive reasons only. Or, they could be waiting 'til they have a critical mass of patents, enforce them all at once and win the game of Risk that they're playing with the world." Chris Sells Feb 18, 2003.

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                                        I say scalp the daughter and go to the concert... :-O


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                                        "It is a helpless feeling to be unable to make something so terribly wrong... right."

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                                        Chris Meech
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                                        LOL. :-D :-D Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "Microsoft hasn't ever enforced its patents. Apparently they keep them for defensive reasons only. Or, they could be waiting 'til they have a critical mass of patents, enforce them all at once and win the game of Risk that they're playing with the world." Chris Sells Feb 18, 2003.

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                                        • C Chris Meech

                                          You raise a valid point. In this case though, I know my daughter is quite the 'keener' and academic achiever. She has even learned sign language because she wants to become a 'gorilla scientist' and continue the work of teaching gorillas to communicate with humans. This has become her life's work since she was six or seven. How many thirteen year old's plan their life this way? I'll be missing the concert :((:((, but her excitement and happiness :):) at graduation should make up for it. Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "Microsoft hasn't ever enforced its patents. Apparently they keep them for defensive reasons only. Or, they could be waiting 'til they have a critical mass of patents, enforce them all at once and win the game of Risk that they're playing with the world." Chris Sells Feb 18, 2003.

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                                          dorkshoe
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                                          Hey, thats awesome that she is so excited about learning. I was totally like that too when I was 13 (still am, I guess..) I just know that I didnt like recieving awards because it was another chance for the kids to make fun of the "smart guy" for being a loser. Took me until college to not give dookie about that stuff..Kids are damn cruel. Thats awesome she can be proud of her achievements like that. You done good! hehe. -dork

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