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Sander Rossel wrote:
With your logic you can't go to the movies or concerts either because you won't be able to see or listen to it later.
I sure can (and do)! Especially concerts. A live concert is a very different experiencer from hearing the same music from a CD. You argue as if going on a safari in Africa is a waste of money because you can buy a National Geographic DVD with scenes from the same region. For movies, it depends. In a movie theater, most people shut up during the movie. Play the same movie on your TV screen, and they do not. I've got a projector and a two meter wide screen in a darkened room; that makes most people shut up. So I go to movie theaters a lot less than before. If I were limited to living-room everybody-continuing-their-chatting viewing, I would still be going a lot to the movies. As you say: A major reason for not caring for streaming services is that if your musical/movie taste lies a few steps to the side of the mainstream, there is a great risk that they don't provide what you are after anyway. Some years ago, every few months media published lists showing that from this and that streaming service from the next month, they would no longer offer this movie, and that, and that, and ... I don't know if the reason was lack of disk space or lack of rights - it really doesn't matter, when I read through the list, nodding "But that one I still have available on my bookshelf, and that one, and that one... I use to ask my friends with several streaming subscriptions about some of the movies I remember from the old days, if they are available. In the majority of the cases, they are not. It is the same with music. Most stuff available over the streaming services is also available on DVD/BD - and a lot more. Then I prefer to buy it on physical media, to make sure I still have access to it when the streaming service decides that they no longer can waste disk space, or possibly licensing fees, on that piece of music/movie. Or maybe some political leader puts a creator/artist into a "false news" category. Charlie Chaplin movies was totally banned from US media for many years, due to Chaplin's thoughts about how a society should be managed. Thinking that no movie, music, nor other artistic impression would be censored today, on comparable grounds, is naive, to say the least. I do not want that censorship.
Member 7989122 wrote:
In a movie theater, most people shut up during the movie. Play the same movie on your TV screen, and they do not.
My experience is the complete opposite, but I live alone :laugh:
Member 7989122 wrote:
there is a great risk that they don't provide what you are after anyway.
I spent the last few years buying Studio Ghibli films. Most of them aren't available in the Netherlands, so I've always paid good (import) money and got them with English subtitles (I think Spirited Away and Howl's Moving Castle have Dutch subs). They all recently became available on Netflix with Dutch subs :laugh: At one time, Netflix had Serenity, the movie that came after Firefly. I decided to buy the series on Blu-ray (because I've always wanted to see it) and then watch the movie on Netflix. I finished the only season within a week and then got ready to watch the movie on Saturday night... Only to find out they pulled it from Netflix that very day :laugh: Again, had to order some second hand import which turned out to be a special edition with Dutch subs (did not expect that), but I ultimately got to watch it a few days later :laugh: If I REALLY want to see something, I buy it. For everything else, Netflix. Also, there's a lot of stuff I wouldn't buy, but now still get to see/listen :)
Member 7989122 wrote:
Thinking that no movie, music, nor other artistic impression would be censored today, on comparable grounds, is naive, to say the least. I do not want that censorship.
I recently watched Community on Netflix. In one episode, one of the best actually, they play Dungeons & Dragons with this kid because they think he has suicidal tendencies. Then someone shows up, dressed as a dark elf, complete with a... Black face (yes, dark elf is dark)! Guess which episode got pulled for racism? A friend of mine is watching it now and has to miss this amazing and funny episode about bullying and helping others. He actually really wanted to see this episode because of the D&D part, which he likes. I agree that we should not want that, certainly not on the grounds of a character being dressed up as a fantasy figure X|
Member 7989122 wrote:
Charlie Chaplin movies was totally banned from US media for many years
The movies are silent and they still manage to offend peopl
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That was before the cloud-era. I love having some space in the cloud for my files and applications, so I can work from any computer, anywhere. For me, that's a lot of added value that I gladly pay for.
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Ron Anders wrote:
The internet put US in charge of what we want to see.
For a moment I thought you meant the Unites States :laugh:
Ron Anders wrote:
It's essentially extortion.
Well, you get a product and you're paying money. Just instead of paying once, you pay monthly/yearly. And when you stop paying you lose the product. You could call it extortion, you could call it capitalism. I get trying to keep it to a minimum though. On the one hand, it's not the way we're used to paying and consuming for products, like Netflix or Spotify. On the other hand, back in the day I just didn't have so much music to listen to and movies to watch :laugh: I guess with O365, you pay for a bit of cloud space and service costs that come with keeping your data online (and a hefty margin, no doubt).
Ron Anders wrote:
You tube would like to charge for youtubeTV . - nah.
Nah for me too, but when you think about it, it's weird that we get to use all these services like Google and YouTube, which costs billions, and never (want to) pay for it. I know, when it's free YOU are the product, but I can't blame them for that either :laugh:
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Sander Rossel wrote:
For a moment I thought you meant the Unites States
Lots of young Europeans have more or less blindly accepted US "morals" (hangups) as their own, ignorant of the traditions of their own culture. E.g. up until Internet, one of the essential marks of summer was newspapers bringing beach reports with photos where naked preschool kids could be seen. Noone expected a swimsuit on a preschooler (and a few years ago, kid around here didn't start school until the year they turned seven). When those beach pictures were let out on the Internet, they had to be censored: The US public is so tender that they can't handle it. Alternately: They have such a vivid fantasy that they cannot handle it... Nowadays, newspapers cannot bring the same kind of photos that they used to. Several videos on YouTube, e.g. sex education for kids, have been censored from YouTube because the US public is too tender to handle it. If you are in that young "americanized" generation, you mmay say: But it is wrong to show stuff like that ... And you may be right, by US norms and morals. You may argue that in principle, you may publish whatever content somewhere else. That is true, but who would then see it? If you can't publidsh it on Facebook (even in closed fora), Flicker, YouTube nor any other widespread social media channel, then we are down to underground, more or less secret communication channels. Your morals may indicate that "If you really insist on publishing a picture of your naked three-year-old on the beach, then you should do it in restricted forums who want such pictures". But before the Internet and the US cultural dominance, noone thought of these as anything but ordinary family pictures. US culture has forced the rest of the world to sexualize a lot of things that were never sexualized before. Based on that, a lot of "but think of the children!" arguments are raised in favor of internet censorship. As US "moral" influence spreads, we may pretend that is doesn't have a US origin - but it does!
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Do any of you subscribe to office 365, and if so, do you find it's actually good value for money? Yes I know it comes with a terabyte of cloud storage, but I'm wondering if anyone actually uses Office 365 or uses altenatives like Libre/Open Office and some other cloud storage solution. Thoughts?
I, my wife, and daughters all use my Office 365 subscription. It works out cheaper than buying four Office 2019 subscriptions. Given Microsoft's recent record, I don't know whether getting the latest updates is a plus or a minus. :-\
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Sander Rossel wrote:
For a moment I thought you meant the Unites States
Lots of young Europeans have more or less blindly accepted US "morals" (hangups) as their own, ignorant of the traditions of their own culture. E.g. up until Internet, one of the essential marks of summer was newspapers bringing beach reports with photos where naked preschool kids could be seen. Noone expected a swimsuit on a preschooler (and a few years ago, kid around here didn't start school until the year they turned seven). When those beach pictures were let out on the Internet, they had to be censored: The US public is so tender that they can't handle it. Alternately: They have such a vivid fantasy that they cannot handle it... Nowadays, newspapers cannot bring the same kind of photos that they used to. Several videos on YouTube, e.g. sex education for kids, have been censored from YouTube because the US public is too tender to handle it. If you are in that young "americanized" generation, you mmay say: But it is wrong to show stuff like that ... And you may be right, by US norms and morals. You may argue that in principle, you may publish whatever content somewhere else. That is true, but who would then see it? If you can't publidsh it on Facebook (even in closed fora), Flicker, YouTube nor any other widespread social media channel, then we are down to underground, more or less secret communication channels. Your morals may indicate that "If you really insist on publishing a picture of your naked three-year-old on the beach, then you should do it in restricted forums who want such pictures". But before the Internet and the US cultural dominance, noone thought of these as anything but ordinary family pictures. US culture has forced the rest of the world to sexualize a lot of things that were never sexualized before. Based on that, a lot of "but think of the children!" arguments are raised in favor of internet censorship. As US "moral" influence spreads, we may pretend that is doesn't have a US origin - but it does!
That's a lot of text, but I was simply referring to his capitalization of the word "us" (as in, you and me) for emphasis :laugh: Agreed on all your points though.
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why don't you just use oneDrive? isn't 1TB free?
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I use OneDrive. 5GB free, 1TB for a subscription ;)
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I use OneDrive. 5GB free, 1TB for a subscription ;)
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Wouldn't it be cheaper to just pay for OneDrive rather than office? ;P
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Wouldn't it be cheaper to just pay for OneDrive rather than office? ;P
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Because I also need Word and Excel and, later, Exchange.
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Because I also need Word and Excel and, later, Exchange.
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So isn't that the real reason you have Office? ;P
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So isn't that the real reason you have Office? ;P
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I never said it wasn't :~ I have an O365 subscription that gives me access to extra cloud storage and the web apps of Excel, Word, etc. as well as the local apps. All I said is that it's the extra storage and web apps that you pay for periodically. And I use them all.
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I never said it wasn't :~ I have an O365 subscription that gives me access to extra cloud storage and the web apps of Excel, Word, etc. as well as the local apps. All I said is that it's the extra storage and web apps that you pay for periodically. And I use them all.
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I was teasing. TBH though, I'm glad I don't need that stuff anymore. If a different company made visual studio i might not even run microsoft stuff at all.
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I was teasing. TBH though, I'm glad I don't need that stuff anymore. If a different company made visual studio i might not even run microsoft stuff at all.
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honey the codewitch wrote:
I was teasing.
Oh, you!
honey the codewitch wrote:
If a different company made visual studio
I'm surprised and disappointed you don't code using Notepad(++) and then use your own compiler to compile that mess you call if-statements ;p
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honey the codewitch wrote:
I was teasing.
Oh, you!
honey the codewitch wrote:
If a different company made visual studio
I'm surprised and disappointed you don't code using Notepad(++) and then use your own compiler to compile that mess you call if-statements ;p
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In my new code I've moved away from if statements altogether. Branching in code is so five minutes ago.
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In my new code I've moved away from if statements altogether. Branching in code is so five minutes ago.
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Looking forward to your new article, if-less programming :D
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Do any of you subscribe to office 365, and if so, do you find it's actually good value for money? Yes I know it comes with a terabyte of cloud storage, but I'm wondering if anyone actually uses Office 365 or uses altenatives like Libre/Open Office and some other cloud storage solution. Thoughts?
Have it through my company. I like Office suite and would prefer to use it.
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