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  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

    Ron Anders wrote:

    The internet put US in charge of what we want to see.

    For a moment I thought you meant the Unites States :laugh:

    Ron Anders wrote:

    It's essentially extortion.

    Well, you get a product and you're paying money. Just instead of paying once, you pay monthly/yearly. And when you stop paying you lose the product. You could call it extortion, you could call it capitalism. I get trying to keep it to a minimum though. On the one hand, it's not the way we're used to paying and consuming for products, like Netflix or Spotify. On the other hand, back in the day I just didn't have so much music to listen to and movies to watch :laugh: I guess with O365, you pay for a bit of cloud space and service costs that come with keeping your data online (and a hefty margin, no doubt).

    Ron Anders wrote:

    You tube would like to charge for youtubeTV . - nah.

    Nah for me too, but when you think about it, it's weird that we get to use all these services like Google and YouTube, which costs billions, and never (want to) pay for it. I know, when it's free YOU are the product, but I can't blame them for that either :laugh:

    Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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    kalberts
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    Sander Rossel wrote:

    For a moment I thought you meant the Unites States

    Lots of young Europeans have more or less blindly accepted US "morals" (hangups) as their own, ignorant of the traditions of their own culture. E.g. up until Internet, one of the essential marks of summer was newspapers bringing beach reports with photos where naked preschool kids could be seen. Noone expected a swimsuit on a preschooler (and a few years ago, kid around here didn't start school until the year they turned seven). When those beach pictures were let out on the Internet, they had to be censored: The US public is so tender that they can't handle it. Alternately: They have such a vivid fantasy that they cannot handle it... Nowadays, newspapers cannot bring the same kind of photos that they used to. Several videos on YouTube, e.g. sex education for kids, have been censored from YouTube because the US public is too tender to handle it. If you are in that young "americanized" generation, you mmay say: But it is wrong to show stuff like that ... And you may be right, by US norms and morals. You may argue that in principle, you may publish whatever content somewhere else. That is true, but who would then see it? If you can't publidsh it on Facebook (even in closed fora), Flicker, YouTube nor any other widespread social media channel, then we are down to underground, more or less secret communication channels. Your morals may indicate that "If you really insist on publishing a picture of your naked three-year-old on the beach, then you should do it in restricted forums who want such pictures". But before the Internet and the US cultural dominance, noone thought of these as anything but ordinary family pictures. US culture has forced the rest of the world to sexualize a lot of things that were never sexualized before. Based on that, a lot of "but think of the children!" arguments are raised in favor of internet censorship. As US "moral" influence spreads, we may pretend that is doesn't have a US origin - but it does!

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    • H HellsHarlot

      Do any of you subscribe to office 365, and if so, do you find it's actually good value for money? Yes I know it comes with a terabyte of cloud storage, but I'm wondering if anyone actually uses Office 365 or uses altenatives like Libre/Open Office and some other cloud storage solution. Thoughts?

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      Daniel Pfeffer
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      I, my wife, and daughters all use my Office 365 subscription. It works out cheaper than buying four Office 2019 subscriptions. Given Microsoft's recent record, I don't know whether getting the latest updates is a plus or a minus. :-\

      Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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        Sander Rossel wrote:

        For a moment I thought you meant the Unites States

        Lots of young Europeans have more or less blindly accepted US "morals" (hangups) as their own, ignorant of the traditions of their own culture. E.g. up until Internet, one of the essential marks of summer was newspapers bringing beach reports with photos where naked preschool kids could be seen. Noone expected a swimsuit on a preschooler (and a few years ago, kid around here didn't start school until the year they turned seven). When those beach pictures were let out on the Internet, they had to be censored: The US public is so tender that they can't handle it. Alternately: They have such a vivid fantasy that they cannot handle it... Nowadays, newspapers cannot bring the same kind of photos that they used to. Several videos on YouTube, e.g. sex education for kids, have been censored from YouTube because the US public is too tender to handle it. If you are in that young "americanized" generation, you mmay say: But it is wrong to show stuff like that ... And you may be right, by US norms and morals. You may argue that in principle, you may publish whatever content somewhere else. That is true, but who would then see it? If you can't publidsh it on Facebook (even in closed fora), Flicker, YouTube nor any other widespread social media channel, then we are down to underground, more or less secret communication channels. Your morals may indicate that "If you really insist on publishing a picture of your naked three-year-old on the beach, then you should do it in restricted forums who want such pictures". But before the Internet and the US cultural dominance, noone thought of these as anything but ordinary family pictures. US culture has forced the rest of the world to sexualize a lot of things that were never sexualized before. Based on that, a lot of "but think of the children!" arguments are raised in favor of internet censorship. As US "moral" influence spreads, we may pretend that is doesn't have a US origin - but it does!

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        Sander Rossel
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        That's a lot of text, but I was simply referring to his capitalization of the word "us" (as in, you and me) for emphasis :laugh: Agreed on all your points though.

        Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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        • H honey the codewitch

          why don't you just use oneDrive? isn't 1TB free?

          Real programmers use butterflies

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          Sander Rossel
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          I use OneDrive. 5GB free, 1TB for a subscription ;)

          Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

            I use OneDrive. 5GB free, 1TB for a subscription ;)

            Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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            honey the codewitch
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            Wouldn't it be cheaper to just pay for OneDrive rather than office? ;P

            Real programmers use butterflies

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            • H honey the codewitch

              Wouldn't it be cheaper to just pay for OneDrive rather than office? ;P

              Real programmers use butterflies

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              Sander Rossel
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              #24

              Because I also need Word and Excel and, later, Exchange.

              Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                Because I also need Word and Excel and, later, Exchange.

                Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                honey the codewitch
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                So isn't that the real reason you have Office? ;P

                Real programmers use butterflies

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                • H honey the codewitch

                  So isn't that the real reason you have Office? ;P

                  Real programmers use butterflies

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                  Sander Rossel
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                  #26

                  I never said it wasn't :~ I have an O365 subscription that gives me access to extra cloud storage and the web apps of Excel, Word, etc. as well as the local apps. All I said is that it's the extra storage and web apps that you pay for periodically. And I use them all.

                  Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                    I never said it wasn't :~ I have an O365 subscription that gives me access to extra cloud storage and the web apps of Excel, Word, etc. as well as the local apps. All I said is that it's the extra storage and web apps that you pay for periodically. And I use them all.

                    Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                    honey the codewitch
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                    I was teasing. TBH though, I'm glad I don't need that stuff anymore. If a different company made visual studio i might not even run microsoft stuff at all.

                    Real programmers use butterflies

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                    • H honey the codewitch

                      I was teasing. TBH though, I'm glad I don't need that stuff anymore. If a different company made visual studio i might not even run microsoft stuff at all.

                      Real programmers use butterflies

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                      Sander Rossel
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                      honey the codewitch wrote:

                      I was teasing.

                      Oh, you!

                      honey the codewitch wrote:

                      If a different company made visual studio

                      I'm surprised and disappointed you don't code using Notepad(++) and then use your own compiler to compile that mess you call if-statements ;p

                      Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                        honey the codewitch wrote:

                        I was teasing.

                        Oh, you!

                        honey the codewitch wrote:

                        If a different company made visual studio

                        I'm surprised and disappointed you don't code using Notepad(++) and then use your own compiler to compile that mess you call if-statements ;p

                        Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                        honey the codewitch
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                        In my new code I've moved away from if statements altogether. Branching in code is so five minutes ago.

                        Real programmers use butterflies

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                        • H honey the codewitch

                          In my new code I've moved away from if statements altogether. Branching in code is so five minutes ago.

                          Real programmers use butterflies

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                          Sander Rossel
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                          Looking forward to your new article, if-less programming :D

                          Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                          • H HellsHarlot

                            Do any of you subscribe to office 365, and if so, do you find it's actually good value for money? Yes I know it comes with a terabyte of cloud storage, but I'm wondering if anyone actually uses Office 365 or uses altenatives like Libre/Open Office and some other cloud storage solution. Thoughts?

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                            Sandeep Mewara
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                            Have it through my company. I like Office suite and would prefer to use it.

                            For your read/comments: Beginners Quick Start to Learn React.js[^]

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