People who complain about Microsoft are like...
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David, I always *love* your opinions :) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
Anders, I always *love* to entertain :) David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com
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When a Linux user screws up Windows, it is because Windows is a sucky operating system. When a Linux user screws up Linux, it is because he made a mistake. I did some consulting for GA Tech and it was really funny. They were trying to write their Windows application as if it was a Unix system. Wow, what a shock, tons of problems. I came in there and rewrote the Unix crap to Windows and WOW, what a shock, things started working just fine. As far as Windows not being able to do mission critical operations, WRONG!!! Windows is use in a HUGE number of mission critical applications. It took over industrial automation. Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.
They were trying to write their Windows application as if it was a Unix system. Wow, what a shock, tons of problems. <gripe> Heh. I feel your pain, man. I just finished testing a Windows app written by Unix guys. They provided all kinds of little command line utilities I had to run from a DOS prompt, copy the text, and then paste into a dialog box of the main application. Sure, it may be more efficient for them, but what a shift of paradigms! </gripe> Jon Sagara Sagara Software
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I will only focus on the rebooting - it is true that companies are regularly rebooting the windows based servers to ensure proper operation. I think it is once a week or so - and it seems to be the recommended by M$ procedure actually.
And to make sure no one runs their servers longer than a few weeks without rebooting they just release critical updates as often as possible :)
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after 12 hours of trying to install fscking WinNT on a blank system, i have to say: MS software is crap. So, based on your experience with one of their products, eveything Microsoft release is crap? So because my Dad's old XJS came with an internal problem with the Anti-theft system (which prevented it from beign driven on more than one occasion), all Jaguars must, by your definition, be crap? I better not place that order for a platinum coloured XKR convertible then, as it's sure to be crap. (not that I could afford one at the moment, unfortunately) All I can offer in help to your problem, is the helpful suggestion of RTFM ;). And regaring the title of your message, I am neither for or against Microsoft, but I am for good products, and I am fed up with the constant "M$ is crap" I read everywhere. From my experience (and I've hasd the ups and the downs), Microsoft produce genuinly reliable and stable products. It's all too easy to state "M$ is crap", but when you quiz these guys further, they almost always disappear before the conversation ends... Hmmm, I wonder why. By all means complain about a product, but you can't judge a company based on one product. David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com
RTFM - yeah, OK. if you'd like, i can relate to you the whole reason i'm trying to install NT (it involves 95,98 2K and the horrible OEM license stuff). now i've NT to the point where it just complains about the Workstation service not starting. yay. i work with MS stuff 8-12 hours a day every day (weekends, usually too). yeah, it's generally OK - as long as you don't touch anything, just leave it the way Dell set it up and don't try crazy things like upgrading DirectX or a video driver. -c ------------------------------ Smaller Animals Software, Inc. http://www.smalleranimals.com
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What is the errormessage? Maybe it's just a single driver that corrupts the entire system... Anyway, NT 4.0 is from 1996, it's a looong time in this business, try with a Linux from 1996, do you thing it's more easy? To make a perfectly running NT 4.0 takes some "touch" with the system, Win2k is a lot more easy... (no offence, really) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
entry point CreateToolhelp32Snapshot not found in Kernel32. i think it is a driver issue. but, i know i've put the same driver on there in the past. i just need to figure out the magic service-pack/driver/office install order. :) -c ------------------------------ Smaller Animals Software, Inc. http://www.smalleranimals.com
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RTFM - yeah, OK. if you'd like, i can relate to you the whole reason i'm trying to install NT (it involves 95,98 2K and the horrible OEM license stuff). now i've NT to the point where it just complains about the Workstation service not starting. yay. i work with MS stuff 8-12 hours a day every day (weekends, usually too). yeah, it's generally OK - as long as you don't touch anything, just leave it the way Dell set it up and don't try crazy things like upgrading DirectX or a video driver. -c ------------------------------ Smaller Animals Software, Inc. http://www.smalleranimals.com
now i've NT to the point where it just complains about the Workstation service not starting. I had this problem before. Installing SP6a fixed it right away. Jon Sagara Sagara Software
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12 Hours? Gee, if you were installing Linux, you probably wouldn't start calling it crap until about after 100+ hours of trying to get it work right. Of course, god forbid you might be using crap hardware and junk 3rd party drivers. Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.
it's a perfectly respectable Micron system (from when they were still making good stuff). and yeah, linux is crap, too (except for the wonderful command line text processing stuff). -c ------------------------------ Smaller Animals Software, Inc. http://www.smalleranimals.com
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RTFM - yeah, OK. if you'd like, i can relate to you the whole reason i'm trying to install NT (it involves 95,98 2K and the horrible OEM license stuff). now i've NT to the point where it just complains about the Workstation service not starting. yay. i work with MS stuff 8-12 hours a day every day (weekends, usually too). yeah, it's generally OK - as long as you don't touch anything, just leave it the way Dell set it up and don't try crazy things like upgrading DirectX or a video driver. -c ------------------------------ Smaller Animals Software, Inc. http://www.smalleranimals.com
You seem to have missed the smilie I strategically inserted in a possition to turn the statement into lighthearted humor. I never meant for you to take it seriously. And you have a Dell machine? Why not just call up the support guys and let them have a go over the phone. You did buy/upgrade the support option didn't you? I mean with Windows being so unstable and all :). (<< jk) David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com
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You seem to have missed the smilie I strategically inserted in a possition to turn the statement into lighthearted humor. I never meant for you to take it seriously. And you have a Dell machine? Why not just call up the support guys and let them have a go over the phone. You did buy/upgrade the support option didn't you? I mean with Windows being so unstable and all :). (<< jk) David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com
yeah, guess i did miss that smiley. :) my small point is this: windows is far from perfect. and to me that means it's not worthy of praise. -c ------------------------------ Smaller Animals Software, Inc. http://www.smalleranimals.com
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yeah, guess i did miss that smiley. :) my small point is this: windows is far from perfect. and to me that means it's not worthy of praise. -c ------------------------------ Smaller Animals Software, Inc. http://www.smalleranimals.com
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RTFM - yeah, OK. if you'd like, i can relate to you the whole reason i'm trying to install NT (it involves 95,98 2K and the horrible OEM license stuff). now i've NT to the point where it just complains about the Workstation service not starting. yay. i work with MS stuff 8-12 hours a day every day (weekends, usually too). yeah, it's generally OK - as long as you don't touch anything, just leave it the way Dell set it up and don't try crazy things like upgrading DirectX or a video driver. -c ------------------------------ Smaller Animals Software, Inc. http://www.smalleranimals.com
I have (or at least I had) almost all NT 4 with all service packs (or without). But Workstation service was ok. (At least if you did not changed the account under this service is to be run). Did you examine Event Viewer? This is another incredible useful errors explanations' source, often misused and underrealized. 'Chief, can we remove ReportEvent from our service?' 'Why??' 'I just asked the customer X what's the latest in event viewer.' 'And what he says?' 'My daughter's wedding, why?'
