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  • J John Torjo

    I feel ya! Windows 10 is such a complete pile of crap! Whenever I can, I disable updates for 35 days. Most of the time, I manage to avoid updates altogether - but probably every 4 months or so, I do a bit of cursing, and then continue on with disabled updates :D

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    John Torjo wrote:

    Whenever I can, I disable updates for 35 days.

    Lucky you...

    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

      Restarted my Dell laptop and I think a Windows update was installed that completely bricked my ethernet adapters. Did a network reset, tried stuff, deleted them, re-added them, still nothing. Got wired internet and I'm connected, but still no browsing or connecting to Wi-Fi! Found out Firefox apparently uses its own settings and was the only browser that worked. The stupid part is that a coworker had the exact same thing happening to her Dell laptop this morning. We were the only ones with Dells and the only ones affected. Spent two hours trying to get everything to work again, but without success. Just got home and everything works like nothing happened... I must've done something right this afternoon even though it didn't work at the time :~ My coworker's still doesn't work though (she used her backup laptop today). What the :elephant: is this :elephant:? :~

      Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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      milo xml
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      I don't know if you fixed it already or not, but they messed with the windows hosts file.

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      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

        Restarted my Dell laptop and I think a Windows update was installed that completely bricked my ethernet adapters. Did a network reset, tried stuff, deleted them, re-added them, still nothing. Got wired internet and I'm connected, but still no browsing or connecting to Wi-Fi! Found out Firefox apparently uses its own settings and was the only browser that worked. The stupid part is that a coworker had the exact same thing happening to her Dell laptop this morning. We were the only ones with Dells and the only ones affected. Spent two hours trying to get everything to work again, but without success. Just got home and everything works like nothing happened... I must've done something right this afternoon even though it didn't work at the time :~ My coworker's still doesn't work though (she used her backup laptop today). What the :elephant: is this :elephant:? :~

        Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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        BDieser
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        Microsoft: "What would you have done today?"

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        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

          Restarted my Dell laptop and I think a Windows update was installed that completely bricked my ethernet adapters. Did a network reset, tried stuff, deleted them, re-added them, still nothing. Got wired internet and I'm connected, but still no browsing or connecting to Wi-Fi! Found out Firefox apparently uses its own settings and was the only browser that worked. The stupid part is that a coworker had the exact same thing happening to her Dell laptop this morning. We were the only ones with Dells and the only ones affected. Spent two hours trying to get everything to work again, but without success. Just got home and everything works like nothing happened... I must've done something right this afternoon even though it didn't work at the time :~ My coworker's still doesn't work though (she used her backup laptop today). What the :elephant: is this :elephant:? :~

          Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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          Bruce Patin
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          Dell apparently has a staff aggressively writing their own drivers faster than Microsoft can support them. And they screw up.

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          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

            Restarted my Dell laptop and I think a Windows update was installed that completely bricked my ethernet adapters. Did a network reset, tried stuff, deleted them, re-added them, still nothing. Got wired internet and I'm connected, but still no browsing or connecting to Wi-Fi! Found out Firefox apparently uses its own settings and was the only browser that worked. The stupid part is that a coworker had the exact same thing happening to her Dell laptop this morning. We were the only ones with Dells and the only ones affected. Spent two hours trying to get everything to work again, but without success. Just got home and everything works like nothing happened... I must've done something right this afternoon even though it didn't work at the time :~ My coworker's still doesn't work though (she used her backup laptop today). What the :elephant: is this :elephant:? :~

            Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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            Chaoix
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            Sounds like a DNS problem. Firefox is the only browser that uses DNS over HTTPS so if you were having issues with the DNS server in your Wired Connection properties, Firefox would still work since it communicates with Cloudflare DNS over HTTPS instead. This would also explain why switching networks fixed the issue.

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              Sounds like a DNS problem. Firefox is the only browser that uses DNS over HTTPS so if you were having issues with the DNS server in your Wired Connection properties, Firefox would still work since it communicates with Cloudflare DNS over HTTPS instead. This would also explain why switching networks fixed the issue.

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              Sander Rossel
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              Yes! This is exactly the problem! Do you know how to fix this issue?

              Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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              • M milo xml

                I don't know if you fixed it already or not, but they messed with the windows hosts file.

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                Sander Rossel
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                I thought I fixed it, but it just seems it works everywhere except at the office :~ What changed in the hosts file? I've got six mapped IP addresses, five for Docker (they put it there, not me) and one for a server mapping for a client. Other than that it's all comments.

                Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                  I thought I fixed it, but it just seems it works everywhere except at the office :~ What changed in the hosts file? I've got six mapped IP addresses, five for Docker (they put it there, not me) and one for a server mapping for a client. Other than that it's all comments.

                  Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                  I was thinking of this [^]. Now thinking it might be unrelated.

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                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                    Restarted my Dell laptop and I think a Windows update was installed that completely bricked my ethernet adapters. Did a network reset, tried stuff, deleted them, re-added them, still nothing. Got wired internet and I'm connected, but still no browsing or connecting to Wi-Fi! Found out Firefox apparently uses its own settings and was the only browser that worked. The stupid part is that a coworker had the exact same thing happening to her Dell laptop this morning. We were the only ones with Dells and the only ones affected. Spent two hours trying to get everything to work again, but without success. Just got home and everything works like nothing happened... I must've done something right this afternoon even though it didn't work at the time :~ My coworker's still doesn't work though (she used her backup laptop today). What the :elephant: is this :elephant:? :~

                    Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                    I am constantly reminded of one of my favorites comics[^] by Sandra and Woo about Windows 10 updates.

                    I live in Oregon, and I'm an engineer.

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                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                      Yes! This is exactly the problem! Do you know how to fix this issue?

                      Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                      First thing I would suggest is to try running the Windows 10 network troubleshooter. It runs through and resets a bunch of network settings on your computer that could cause issues: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/10741/windows-fix-network-connection-issue[^] Next I would reset Internet Explorer. IE's internet options are still used for things like proxy settings in Windows 10: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/17441/windows-internet-explorer-change-reset-settings[^] Finally, if none of that resolves the issue, try switching the DNS on your computer to Cloudflare or Google DNS. 1.1.1.1 — the Internet’s Fastest, Privacy-First DNS Resolver[^] Get Started  |  Public DNS  |  Google Developers[^]

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                      • P patbob

                        I am constantly reminded of one of my favorites comics[^] by Sandra and Woo about Windows 10 updates.

                        I live in Oregon, and I'm an engineer.

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                        Sander Rossel
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                        :thumbsup: :laugh:

                        Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                        • C Chaoix

                          First thing I would suggest is to try running the Windows 10 network troubleshooter. It runs through and resets a bunch of network settings on your computer that could cause issues: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/10741/windows-fix-network-connection-issue[^] Next I would reset Internet Explorer. IE's internet options are still used for things like proxy settings in Windows 10: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/17441/windows-internet-explorer-change-reset-settings[^] Finally, if none of that resolves the issue, try switching the DNS on your computer to Cloudflare or Google DNS. 1.1.1.1 — the Internet’s Fastest, Privacy-First DNS Resolver[^] Get Started  |  Public DNS  |  Google Developers[^]

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                          Sander Rossel
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                          Tried them all, for a brief moment it seemed to work, but then Wi-Fi became disconnected again (also non-reproducible) :( Resetting the modem also helped, but also only for like half an hour. It seems something is messing up my Wi-Fi settings periodically. I'm not on wired internet, which works.

                          Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                            Tried them all, for a brief moment it seemed to work, but then Wi-Fi became disconnected again (also non-reproducible) :( Resetting the modem also helped, but also only for like half an hour. It seems something is messing up my Wi-Fi settings periodically. I'm not on wired internet, which works.

                            Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                            Ok WiFi is trickier to figure out for sure. Are other devices able to connect to the access point while your laptop will not connect? If not the router may be overheating, which would be why unplugging and replugging in the router fixes the issue. You can figure out a way to cool it such as a fan or something, or just replace it. Some older Linksys routers made in the early 2010s would overheat when they were brand new. I assume you have downloaded and reinstalled the latest driver for your WiFi card from the Dell website as well? Are you using Bluetooth on the laptop, if so try disabling the Bluetooth on the laptop. Dell has had alot of issues with their WiFi/Bluetooth cards in the past. I have personally had the Bluetooth issue on one of the Dell PCs at work.

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                              Ok WiFi is trickier to figure out for sure. Are other devices able to connect to the access point while your laptop will not connect? If not the router may be overheating, which would be why unplugging and replugging in the router fixes the issue. You can figure out a way to cool it such as a fan or something, or just replace it. Some older Linksys routers made in the early 2010s would overheat when they were brand new. I assume you have downloaded and reinstalled the latest driver for your WiFi card from the Dell website as well? Are you using Bluetooth on the laptop, if so try disabling the Bluetooth on the laptop. Dell has had alot of issues with their WiFi/Bluetooth cards in the past. I have personally had the Bluetooth issue on one of the Dell PCs at work.

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                              Chaoix wrote:

                              If not the router may be overheating

                              I'm the only one without Wi-Fi at the office. Another coworker had the same issue, also a Dell, but she doesn't have Wi-Fi at home either whereas I have Wi-Fi everywhere except at the office. Overheating was actually a problem that made the Wi-Fi disconnect, which made the alarm go off at 1AM, four nights in a row (we had a heat wave last week), so the building owner turned on the AC and it's been on day and night since then :laugh: So we can rule out overheating.

                              Chaoix wrote:

                              I assume you have downloaded and reinstalled the latest driver for your WiFi card from the Dell website as well?

                              You may be on to something there :doh: I used to have this Dell tool that kept bugging me about updates and such (and so I was always up-to-date), but it seems I never reinstalled it after I formatted my computer last year. Got it again after reading your reply and there were updates for te BIOS, chipset, network and Bluetooth devices. Hopefully this will solve the issue! I'll let you know if it solved the issue on Monday. Thanks for the help :thumbsup:

                              Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                                Ok WiFi is trickier to figure out for sure. Are other devices able to connect to the access point while your laptop will not connect? If not the router may be overheating, which would be why unplugging and replugging in the router fixes the issue. You can figure out a way to cool it such as a fan or something, or just replace it. Some older Linksys routers made in the early 2010s would overheat when they were brand new. I assume you have downloaded and reinstalled the latest driver for your WiFi card from the Dell website as well? Are you using Bluetooth on the laptop, if so try disabling the Bluetooth on the laptop. Dell has had alot of issues with their WiFi/Bluetooth cards in the past. I have personally had the Bluetooth issue on one of the Dell PCs at work.

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                                Updating all Dell drivers did not make a difference. Wi-Fi is still out (also reset network configuration and restarted) :(

                                Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                  Updating all Dell drivers did not make a difference. Wi-Fi is still out (also reset network configuration and restarted) :(

                                  Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                                  Have you tried "forgetting" your Office's wifi network on the laptop and re-adding the wifi? Maybe the wifi network profile on the laptop has a mismatched channel or something. Has someone looked at the router since it overheated 4 days in a row? Maybe something got corrupted in its configuration from overheating. If the wifi on your laptop still works fine at home, I would still lead you towards looking at the router's configuration or the office network. It possible advanced settings such as the MTU can prevent connectivity, but all of those settings were more than likely set to default from all of the troubleshooting you have done at this point. Your laptop doesn't have a IP conflict with another device on the network does it? Maybe your work uses DHCP reservations and they got messed up?

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                                    Have you tried "forgetting" your Office's wifi network on the laptop and re-adding the wifi? Maybe the wifi network profile on the laptop has a mismatched channel or something. Has someone looked at the router since it overheated 4 days in a row? Maybe something got corrupted in its configuration from overheating. If the wifi on your laptop still works fine at home, I would still lead you towards looking at the router's configuration or the office network. It possible advanced settings such as the MTU can prevent connectivity, but all of those settings were more than likely set to default from all of the troubleshooting you have done at this point. Your laptop doesn't have a IP conflict with another device on the network does it? Maybe your work uses DHCP reservations and they got messed up?

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                                    Sander Rossel
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                                    Chaoix wrote:

                                    Have you tried "forgetting" your Office's wifi network on the laptop and re-adding the wifi?

                                    Yeah, no results. As for all the rest you're saying, I'm renting a work place and other people and companies also use the network facilities here. I can't fiddle with the router or all of them would be without internet (did that once to reset it). There's no network, it's just a couple of computers connecting to the internet, no central servers or anything, at least not for me (I don't know what the other companies here are doing). I wouldn't know what IP I'd have to conflict with as I can't see or reach any of them. It's kind of like connecting to the Wi-Fi at McDonalds or Starbucks, except that it doesn't work.

                                    Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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