Microsoft, microsoft ... that's just silly.
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It is indeed strange, but ... it's also a very, very good spreadsheet, and a whole load better than any other. Nothing else even comes close. Unlike Word, which could be beaten by a pencil and paper most of the time. :laugh:
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but ... it's also a very, very good spreadsheet, and a whole load better than any other. Nothing else even comes close.
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Give Excel 1 the focus, and then position the mouse over Excel 2 - do not click.
Nothing else comes close, even itself, apparently. ;P ;P ;P
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Open two copies of Excel, with different sheets (I do this on separate monitors). Give Excel 1 the focus, and then position the mouse over Excel 2 - do not click. Twiddle the mouse wheel to scroll the sheet on Excel 2. Notice that the sheet on Excel 1 scrolls instead ... :doh:
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This is how it's always been. Browsers now do it and I imagine some other programs do it too. Request it as a feature from Microsoft.
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This is how it's always been. Browsers now do it and I imagine some other programs do it too. Request it as a feature from Microsoft.
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Try it with Chrome: two windows, one with CP on it. The other with Dilbert[^]. Click on CP to give it the focus. Move the mouse over Dilbert, but do not click. Move the mouse wheel. Which one scrolls, CP or Dilbert? Dilbert does, as you would expect. Move the mouse over CP, and again, don't click. Move the mouse wheel. Which one scrolls, CP or Dilbert? CP does, as you would expect. Excel doesn't do that: it scrolls the focussed spreadsheet, not the one under the mouse pointer. Which is damn annoying!
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Try it with Chrome: two windows, one with CP on it. The other with Dilbert[^]. Click on CP to give it the focus. Move the mouse over Dilbert, but do not click. Move the mouse wheel. Which one scrolls, CP or Dilbert? Dilbert does, as you would expect. Move the mouse over CP, and again, don't click. Move the mouse wheel. Which one scrolls, CP or Dilbert? CP does, as you would expect. Excel doesn't do that: it scrolls the focussed spreadsheet, not the one under the mouse pointer. Which is damn annoying!
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Which is why I said,
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Browsers now do it
It referring to scrolling without focus.
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Open two copies of Excel, with different sheets (I do this on separate monitors). Give Excel 1 the focus, and then position the mouse over Excel 2 - do not click. Twiddle the mouse wheel to scroll the sheet on Excel 2. Notice that the sheet on Excel 1 scrolls instead ... :doh:
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What annoys me is SSMS scrolling both the query pane and the result pane unless I select one.
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Which is why I said,
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Browsers now do it
It referring to scrolling without focus.
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Yes, but only the window under the mouse pointer, not the focussed window! Excel just does it to be annoying ... and only if the mouse is over any Excel spreadsheet, not Chrome, or Windows Explorer, or ...
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Yes, but only the window under the mouse pointer, not the focussed window! Excel just does it to be annoying ... and only if the mouse is over any Excel spreadsheet, not Chrome, or Windows Explorer, or ...
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but only the window under the mouse pointer
Yes, that's what I said the first time. You seem to be misunderstanding what I said.
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What annoys me is SSMS scrolling both the query pane and the result pane unless I select one.
really? What version? I've never seen that. Some programs have a setting to do that so maybe you turned on a setting? In 2018, it works like the browsers, scrolls whatever the mouse is over.
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really? What version? I've never seen that. Some programs have a setting to do that so maybe you turned on a setting? In 2018, it works like the browsers, scrolls whatever the mouse is over.
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I'm using SSMS 2014, and 2012 may have done it as well, but I don't think older versions did. Nothing in the settings looks like it would do that.
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Open two copies of Excel, with different sheets (I do this on separate monitors). Give Excel 1 the focus, and then position the mouse over Excel 2 - do not click. Twiddle the mouse wheel to scroll the sheet on Excel 2. Notice that the sheet on Excel 1 scrolls instead ... :doh:
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I could've sworn the Mouse applet in Control Panel used to have a checkbox to control exactly that behavior - I forget what it might have been called, and I can't find it right now. Of course, they had to re-do everything in Windows 10, so that doesn't help either. [Edit] On Win10, Settings, Devices, Mouse, there's a switch labeled "Scroll inactive windows when I hover over them", which seems to be exactly that. However, Excel does seem to go out of its way to ignore that.
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Open two copies of Excel, with different sheets (I do this on separate monitors). Give Excel 1 the focus, and then position the mouse over Excel 2 - do not click. Twiddle the mouse wheel to scroll the sheet on Excel 2. Notice that the sheet on Excel 1 scrolls instead ... :doh:
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Yes, that has bugged the heck out of me numerous times as well. With Word or a browser going, Excel always manages to scroll when I don't want it to! Another major annoyance is when Excel and Word go out of focus, they no longer highlight the currently highlighted or selected cells. That makes it really hard to keep track of where you are when in another program and glance back over to remind yourself what you were doing. Other than that, I don't get the hate for Word. To me, it is an extremely powerful editor when you know the its ins and outs. I formatted an entire book in it, including embedded pictures and the index, and it worked far better than the version of Serif's PagePlus I bought that many people swore by. Serif's indexer wasn't even a tenth as good as Words.
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Yes, that has bugged the heck out of me numerous times as well. With Word or a browser going, Excel always manages to scroll when I don't want it to! Another major annoyance is when Excel and Word go out of focus, they no longer highlight the currently highlighted or selected cells. That makes it really hard to keep track of where you are when in another program and glance back over to remind yourself what you were doing. Other than that, I don't get the hate for Word. To me, it is an extremely powerful editor when you know the its ins and outs. I formatted an entire book in it, including embedded pictures and the index, and it worked far better than the version of Serif's PagePlus I bought that many people swore by. Serif's indexer wasn't even a tenth as good as Words.
One clarification: Word's ribbon absolutely sucks. It should burn in the lowest levels of hell for all eternity, and those who designed and pushed it over the menu system lack the intelligence to eat breakfast cereal.
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It is indeed strange, but ... it's also a very, very good spreadsheet, and a whole load better than any other. Nothing else even comes close. Unlike Word, which could be beaten by a pencil and paper most of the time. :laugh:
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Open two copies of Excel, with different sheets (I do this on separate monitors). Give Excel 1 the focus, and then position the mouse over Excel 2 - do not click. Twiddle the mouse wheel to scroll the sheet on Excel 2. Notice that the sheet on Excel 1 scrolls instead ... :doh:
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
I found out users were running multiple instances of my app, because they could, even though I had never considered it myself at the time (Win 95 / XP). But no multiple monitors. I find that FireFox gets confused with multiple monitors if one of them isn't turned on at start up. And VLC player freaks out moving between monitors of different resolutions; picking monitors other than the one intended. It's a user model they're still trying to get a handle on.
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Open two copies of Excel, with different sheets (I do this on separate monitors). Give Excel 1 the focus, and then position the mouse over Excel 2 - do not click. Twiddle the mouse wheel to scroll the sheet on Excel 2. Notice that the sheet on Excel 1 scrolls instead ... :doh:
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
IIRC mouse handling has been butchered in the Windows 98 timeframe due to licensing. Once upon time we had X Window style mouseover activates the underlying window setting, too.
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Open two copies of Excel, with different sheets (I do this on separate monitors). Give Excel 1 the focus, and then position the mouse over Excel 2 - do not click. Twiddle the mouse wheel to scroll the sheet on Excel 2. Notice that the sheet on Excel 1 scrolls instead ... :doh:
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Open two copies of Excel, with different sheets (I do this on separate monitors). Give Excel 1 the focus, and then position the mouse over Excel 2 - do not click. Twiddle the mouse wheel to scroll the sheet on Excel 2. Notice that the sheet on Excel 1 scrolls instead ... :doh:
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
That's long been Linux' mouse behavior to scroll that over which it is hovered. I like it.
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Open two copies of Excel, with different sheets (I do this on separate monitors). Give Excel 1 the focus, and then position the mouse over Excel 2 - do not click. Twiddle the mouse wheel to scroll the sheet on Excel 2. Notice that the sheet on Excel 1 scrolls instead ... :doh:
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
This isn't just Excel nor is it silly. Instead, it's good user interface design. A lot of people will move their mouse away from the application they're working in to avoid having it clutter the work surface. This is really useful when working in Word or another text editor and is far better than having the mouse "disappear".
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Open two copies of Excel, with different sheets (I do this on separate monitors). Give Excel 1 the focus, and then position the mouse over Excel 2 - do not click. Twiddle the mouse wheel to scroll the sheet on Excel 2. Notice that the sheet on Excel 1 scrolls instead ... :doh:
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
It fills me with furious anger everytime I select a row to highlight it, then click on another application and that row is no longer selected :mad:
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I could've sworn the Mouse applet in Control Panel used to have a checkbox to control exactly that behavior - I forget what it might have been called, and I can't find it right now. Of course, they had to re-do everything in Windows 10, so that doesn't help either. [Edit] On Win10, Settings, Devices, Mouse, there's a switch labeled "Scroll inactive windows when I hover over them", which seems to be exactly that. However, Excel does seem to go out of its way to ignore that.
My Windows 10 Pro version 2004 doesn't have a switch labeled "Scroll inactive windows when I hover over them". What am I doing wrong?
