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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    Open two copies of Excel, with different sheets (I do this on separate monitors). Give Excel 1 the focus, and then position the mouse over Excel 2 - do not click. Twiddle the mouse wheel to scroll the sheet on Excel 2. Notice that the sheet on Excel 1 scrolls instead ... :doh:

    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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    Lost User
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    I found out users were running multiple instances of my app, because they could, even though I had never considered it myself at the time (Win 95 / XP). But no multiple monitors. I find that FireFox gets confused with multiple monitors if one of them isn't turned on at start up. And VLC player freaks out moving between monitors of different resolutions; picking monitors other than the one intended. It's a user model they're still trying to get a handle on.

    It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      Open two copies of Excel, with different sheets (I do this on separate monitors). Give Excel 1 the focus, and then position the mouse over Excel 2 - do not click. Twiddle the mouse wheel to scroll the sheet on Excel 2. Notice that the sheet on Excel 1 scrolls instead ... :doh:

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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      Peter Adam
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      IIRC mouse handling has been butchered in the Windows 98 timeframe due to licensing. Once upon time we had X Window style mouseover activates the underlying window setting, too.

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        Open two copies of Excel, with different sheets (I do this on separate monitors). Give Excel 1 the focus, and then position the mouse over Excel 2 - do not click. Twiddle the mouse wheel to scroll the sheet on Excel 2. Notice that the sheet on Excel 1 scrolls instead ... :doh:

        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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        milo xml
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        They've just jacked up the scroll wheel in general. Something as simple as scrolling through the start menu has become tedious if you don't click in the right place to start scrolling there.

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          Open two copies of Excel, with different sheets (I do this on separate monitors). Give Excel 1 the focus, and then position the mouse over Excel 2 - do not click. Twiddle the mouse wheel to scroll the sheet on Excel 2. Notice that the sheet on Excel 1 scrolls instead ... :doh:

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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          Bruce Patin
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          That's long been Linux' mouse behavior to scroll that over which it is hovered. I like it.

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            Open two copies of Excel, with different sheets (I do this on separate monitors). Give Excel 1 the focus, and then position the mouse over Excel 2 - do not click. Twiddle the mouse wheel to scroll the sheet on Excel 2. Notice that the sheet on Excel 1 scrolls instead ... :doh:

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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            obermd
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            This isn't just Excel nor is it silly. Instead, it's good user interface design. A lot of people will move their mouse away from the application they're working in to avoid having it clutter the work surface. This is really useful when working in Word or another text editor and is far better than having the mouse "disappear".

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              Open two copies of Excel, with different sheets (I do this on separate monitors). Give Excel 1 the focus, and then position the mouse over Excel 2 - do not click. Twiddle the mouse wheel to scroll the sheet on Excel 2. Notice that the sheet on Excel 1 scrolls instead ... :doh:

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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              captonmike
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              It fills me with furious anger everytime I select a row to highlight it, then click on another application and that row is no longer selected :mad:

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                I could've sworn the Mouse applet in Control Panel used to have a checkbox to control exactly that behavior - I forget what it might have been called, and I can't find it right now. Of course, they had to re-do everything in Windows 10, so that doesn't help either. [Edit] On Win10, Settings, Devices, Mouse, there's a switch labeled "Scroll inactive windows when I hover over them", which seems to be exactly that. However, Excel does seem to go out of its way to ignore that.

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                Member 13138668
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                My Windows 10 Pro version 2004 doesn't have a switch labeled "Scroll inactive windows when I hover over them". What am I doing wrong?

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                  My Windows 10 Pro version 2004 doesn't have a switch labeled "Scroll inactive windows when I hover over them". What am I doing wrong?

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                  mngerhold
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                  I thought that: you have to select the mouse in the list on the left

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    It is indeed strange, but ... it's also a very, very good spreadsheet, and a whole load better than any other. Nothing else even comes close. Unlike Word, which could be beaten by a pencil and paper most of the time. :laugh:

                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                    Mike Winiberg
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                    Indeed so - Excel is the real flagship in Office and always has been. I do quite like Quattro Pro though, which is a much extended Lotus 123 and more compatible with that than Excel.

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                    • M Member 13138668

                      My Windows 10 Pro version 2004 doesn't have a switch labeled "Scroll inactive windows when I hover over them". What am I doing wrong?

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                      sasadler
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                      It shows up on my 2004 system. It's right under the "Choose how many lines to scroll each time" slider.

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                      • M Member 13138668

                        My Windows 10 Pro version 2004 doesn't have a switch labeled "Scroll inactive windows when I hover over them". What am I doing wrong?

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                        dandy72
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                        I'm on 2004 as well, so even though they keep moving that crap around in each version, yours should still match mine. I've spelled out the steps to get there in my post, and I've just verified that I haven't skipped any.

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                          It fills me with furious anger everytime I select a row to highlight it, then click on another application and that row is no longer selected :mad:

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                          dandy72
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                          I know exactly what you're talking about - I can picture the label in VS's WinForm editor, but I forget its name ("Always Show[...]"?). Why that's turned off by default, I don't know. It's always the first thing I change when putting together a new form that has such controls.

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                          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                            Open two copies of Excel, with different sheets (I do this on separate monitors). Give Excel 1 the focus, and then position the mouse over Excel 2 - do not click. Twiddle the mouse wheel to scroll the sheet on Excel 2. Notice that the sheet on Excel 1 scrolls instead ... :doh:

                            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                            TnTinMn
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                            OriginalGriff wrote:

                            Open two copies of Excel, with different sheets

                            Did you really open two copies of Excel, two instances, or are there two worksheet windows running under a single instance (the default since 2013 version)? See: Opening workbooks by running separate instances of Excel for more info.

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                            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                              Try it with Chrome: two windows, one with CP on it. The other with Dilbert[^]. Click on CP to give it the focus. Move the mouse over Dilbert, but do not click. Move the mouse wheel. Which one scrolls, CP or Dilbert? Dilbert does, as you would expect. Move the mouse over CP, and again, don't click. Move the mouse wheel. Which one scrolls, CP or Dilbert? CP does, as you would expect. Excel doesn't do that: it scrolls the focussed spreadsheet, not the one under the mouse pointer. Which is damn annoying!

                              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                              nobody158
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                              This feature is something linux does better than windows, you can set the setting to scroll active window. I am hoping windows catches up soon and makes it a windows thing instead of per app thing.

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