I want find a Java job, how important is JS?
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I've built a few simply projects with the help of tutorials. I've been doing java as a hobby for several years. I know JavaFx, Android, and I"m in the process of learning Spring. I'm familiar with Python, HTML, XML. About 7 years ago I studied and therefore know, to a lesser extent SQL C++, JS, PHP, since I mostly forgot those languages. I've been seeing a lot of job postings asking for Java with Android, Spring Framework and Node.JS or Angular. Node and Angular Javascript. I did a few weeks of lesson on those frameworks a about 4 years ago, but mostly forget. Why do they want that? How important is it to have exactly what they want? I'm still working on learning Android and Spring. Is it imperative to learn Node to find a job? As you can see in my github account I've have hundreds of projects big and small in Java, and a few in Python
Jobs where they are asking for both Java and some combination of a web framework along with JavaScript/TypeScript tends to show one of two things. 1. The job is for a "full stack" developer. This means that the developer is meant to be as comfortable coding at the front end as they are with coding at the server. 2. The person doing the hiring, whehter they are the manager, HR team or recruiter, don't have a clue about the technology and have just thrown everything in. If the actual job description indicates that all of the code will be at purely at the client side, or the server side, this is a pretty good indicator that option 2 is in play here.
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I've built a few simply projects with the help of tutorials. I've been doing java as a hobby for several years. I know JavaFx, Android, and I"m in the process of learning Spring. I'm familiar with Python, HTML, XML. About 7 years ago I studied and therefore know, to a lesser extent SQL C++, JS, PHP, since I mostly forgot those languages. I've been seeing a lot of job postings asking for Java with Android, Spring Framework and Node.JS or Angular. Node and Angular Javascript. I did a few weeks of lesson on those frameworks a about 4 years ago, but mostly forget. Why do they want that? How important is it to have exactly what they want? I'm still working on learning Android and Spring. Is it imperative to learn Node to find a job? As you can see in my github account I've have hundreds of projects big and small in Java, and a few in Python
CoderBryGuy wrote:
Why do they want that? How important is it to have exactly what they want?
The two most important questions are the ones we cannot answer. Although Pete has given a couple of good suggestions. The only way to get definitive answers is by applying for the jobs and seeing how far you get. If you know of a reputable recruiter then go and talk to them, explain what you have to offer and see if they can help.
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CoderBryGuy wrote:
Why do they want that? How important is it to have exactly what they want?
The two most important questions are the ones we cannot answer. Although Pete has given a couple of good suggestions. The only way to get definitive answers is by applying for the jobs and seeing how far you get. If you know of a reputable recruiter then go and talk to them, explain what you have to offer and see if they can help.
Richard MacCutchan wrote:
If you know of a reputable recruiter then go and talk to them, explain what you have to offer and see if they can help.
And that's much more difficult as one think at first glance
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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I've built a few simply projects with the help of tutorials. I've been doing java as a hobby for several years. I know JavaFx, Android, and I"m in the process of learning Spring. I'm familiar with Python, HTML, XML. About 7 years ago I studied and therefore know, to a lesser extent SQL C++, JS, PHP, since I mostly forgot those languages. I've been seeing a lot of job postings asking for Java with Android, Spring Framework and Node.JS or Angular. Node and Angular Javascript. I did a few weeks of lesson on those frameworks a about 4 years ago, but mostly forget. Why do they want that? How important is it to have exactly what they want? I'm still working on learning Android and Spring. Is it imperative to learn Node to find a job? As you can see in my github account I've have hundreds of projects big and small in Java, and a few in Python
You can always check the job descriptions/requirements to see whether the company provides training on the job. It doesn't hurt to get some base experience with those technologies (Angular, React, Vue) so you're not completely clueless when you go into the role, but most companies will provision for people needing to learn technologies. If it's a senior role, there might be more of an expectation to have that experience already. This is a big problem some graduates face when entering the developer market, the list of requirements can seem overwhelming and off-putting. Just remember that just because a job has listed 20 different requirements doesn't necessarily mean they expect you to have experience in all of them, you can always ask about whether they provide training and explain that you'll need time to acquaint yourself with the technologies. We hired a Java developer on the back of his strong knowledge of Java, but he had little experience with Spring, Angular, Oracle etc. and we simply allowed him to learn on the job. And after getting hands-on with our software he took the time at home to build his own projects and learn more about the technologies we're using.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote:
If you know of a reputable recruiter then go and talk to them, explain what you have to offer and see if they can help.
And that's much more difficult as one think at first glance
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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I've built a few simply projects with the help of tutorials. I've been doing java as a hobby for several years. I know JavaFx, Android, and I"m in the process of learning Spring. I'm familiar with Python, HTML, XML. About 7 years ago I studied and therefore know, to a lesser extent SQL C++, JS, PHP, since I mostly forgot those languages. I've been seeing a lot of job postings asking for Java with Android, Spring Framework and Node.JS or Angular. Node and Angular Javascript. I did a few weeks of lesson on those frameworks a about 4 years ago, but mostly forget. Why do they want that? How important is it to have exactly what they want? I'm still working on learning Android and Spring. Is it imperative to learn Node to find a job? As you can see in my github account I've have hundreds of projects big and small in Java, and a few in Python
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I've built a few simply projects with the help of tutorials. I've been doing java as a hobby for several years. I know JavaFx, Android, and I"m in the process of learning Spring. I'm familiar with Python, HTML, XML. About 7 years ago I studied and therefore know, to a lesser extent SQL C++, JS, PHP, since I mostly forgot those languages. I've been seeing a lot of job postings asking for Java with Android, Spring Framework and Node.JS or Angular. Node and Angular Javascript. I did a few weeks of lesson on those frameworks a about 4 years ago, but mostly forget. Why do they want that? How important is it to have exactly what they want? I'm still working on learning Android and Spring. Is it imperative to learn Node to find a job? As you can see in my github account I've have hundreds of projects big and small in Java, and a few in Python
Now your question about 'why they want that' with a variable list of frameworks? Very often it comes down to supporting some legacy code - maybe freshly written by someone who's moved on; maybe they've been in use for years and someone's retired/fired/moved on. It should be no surprise that their needs are (very often) based not on what they want but what they already have. Perhaps, it also includes someone's wish list or HR's/management's uncontrollable desire to use the latest buzz-words. Best Java jobs? Sometime, maybe they're available at Starbucks.
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I've built a few simply projects with the help of tutorials. I've been doing java as a hobby for several years. I know JavaFx, Android, and I"m in the process of learning Spring. I'm familiar with Python, HTML, XML. About 7 years ago I studied and therefore know, to a lesser extent SQL C++, JS, PHP, since I mostly forgot those languages. I've been seeing a lot of job postings asking for Java with Android, Spring Framework and Node.JS or Angular. Node and Angular Javascript. I did a few weeks of lesson on those frameworks a about 4 years ago, but mostly forget. Why do they want that? How important is it to have exactly what they want? I'm still working on learning Android and Spring. Is it imperative to learn Node to find a job? As you can see in my github account I've have hundreds of projects big and small in Java, and a few in Python
I'd rather have someone on my team that: 1) knows how to solve problems, and then 2) knows a few languages to aid in solving those problems. If a person knows a few languages well, or knows a lot of them just below the surface, but they have no reasoning/problem-solving skills, software development might be the wrong path for them.
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I'd rather have someone on my team that: 1) knows how to solve problems, and then 2) knows a few languages to aid in solving those problems. If a person knows a few languages well, or knows a lot of them just below the surface, but they have no reasoning/problem-solving skills, software development might be the wrong path for them.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
other people in the industry have old me to focus on a few frameworks in java. Don't try to learn a lot of languages and frameworks. I was putting a lot of energy into learning Python and Pygame, and also LibGDX, in addition to Android. AFter they told me that I've just been focued on Android and Spring Framework, though I still do a little Python and Pygame on the side when I have time.
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I've built a few simply projects with the help of tutorials. I've been doing java as a hobby for several years. I know JavaFx, Android, and I"m in the process of learning Spring. I'm familiar with Python, HTML, XML. About 7 years ago I studied and therefore know, to a lesser extent SQL C++, JS, PHP, since I mostly forgot those languages. I've been seeing a lot of job postings asking for Java with Android, Spring Framework and Node.JS or Angular. Node and Angular Javascript. I did a few weeks of lesson on those frameworks a about 4 years ago, but mostly forget. Why do they want that? How important is it to have exactly what they want? I'm still working on learning Android and Spring. Is it imperative to learn Node to find a job? As you can see in my github account I've have hundreds of projects big and small in Java, and a few in Python
Depends on the employer. That's why finding a job is a numbers game: you have to hit the right employer. The days of planning who you want to work for are long gone.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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Richard MacCutchan wrote:
So true, my own experience is that most of them are a waste of space.
And time... if you start talking with them X|
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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I've built a few simply projects with the help of tutorials. I've been doing java as a hobby for several years. I know JavaFx, Android, and I"m in the process of learning Spring. I'm familiar with Python, HTML, XML. About 7 years ago I studied and therefore know, to a lesser extent SQL C++, JS, PHP, since I mostly forgot those languages. I've been seeing a lot of job postings asking for Java with Android, Spring Framework and Node.JS or Angular. Node and Angular Javascript. I did a few weeks of lesson on those frameworks a about 4 years ago, but mostly forget. Why do they want that? How important is it to have exactly what they want? I'm still working on learning Android and Spring. Is it imperative to learn Node to find a job? As you can see in my github account I've have hundreds of projects big and small in Java, and a few in Python
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