I can summarize the book The Mythical Man Month for you
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It is humorous but inaccurate so I'll be the party pooper. :^) Adding more software developers CAN produce results faster but adding additional women to a pregnancy CANNOT do anything to speed it along. So the analogy does not quite work.
I claim comedic license. A statement just has to be true enough of the time to be funny. Not all of the time.
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honey the codewitch wrote:
Throwing additional software developers at a problem in order to produce faster is like throwing additional women at a pregnancy to move it along diapers at a baby to get it potty-trained sooner.
FIFY (this could make a fun chain)
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That works too. :laugh:
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Let's change the analogy another time...
BabyYoda wrote:
Adding more software developers managers
:rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
That's like throwing gas on a fire. :laugh:
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It depends on the project size and structure. I'm glad I have a team member working with me on my current project :) I think the issue is just adding new resources to a project as it takes a while for them to get up to speed.
I agree. I'm playing, but there's enough truth to it to be funny. Or maybe it's me.
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Unfortunately, our shop management decided to do just that for a certain project. Now, there are not enough curse words to describe the circus that has ensued. Talk about merge conflicts. :sigh:
Merge conflicts? You have a working source control system in place? You are so lucky. *sideeyes the entire dotcom boom era*
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I claim comedic license. A statement just has to be true enough of the time to be funny. Not all of the time.
Real programmers use butterflies
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Merge conflicts? You have a working source control system in place? You are so lucky. *sideeyes the entire dotcom boom era*
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yes, we use git with visual studio and dev ops. works great. merge conflicts are still a PITA if you have too many devs working on the same code base. It is not a good idea at all.
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Throwing additional software developers at a problem in order to produce faster is like throwing additional women at a pregnancy to move it along.
Real programmers use butterflies
It's easier if you think in terms of man-weeks ... which are only 4 days long. You're already off by 20% if you assume otherwise.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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It's easier if you think in terms of man-weeks ... which are only 4 days long. You're already off by 20% if you assume otherwise.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
Absolutely true.
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I agree. I'm playing, but there's enough truth to it to be funny. Or maybe it's me.
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honey the codewitch wrote:
Or maybe it's me.
Not only you :-D
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Throwing additional software developers at a problem in order to produce faster is like throwing additional women at a pregnancy to move it along.
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This is quite spooky, about 4 hours ago I was staring at a bookshelf and spotted ... "The Mythical Man-Month" (Anniversary Edition with Four New Chapters!) - 2004 edition. I thought to myself, "which one of my colleagues shall I offload this onto?" (I'm having a clear out - VB6 manuals anyone?) Obviously no-one on this thread will want it :laugh:
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This is quite spooky, about 4 hours ago I was staring at a bookshelf and spotted ... "The Mythical Man-Month" (Anniversary Edition with Four New Chapters!) - 2004 edition. I thought to myself, "which one of my colleagues shall I offload this onto?" (I'm having a clear out - VB6 manuals anyone?) Obviously no-one on this thread will want it :laugh:
:laugh: It's actually a good book. I'm just trying to offer the TL;DR version. :-D
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:laugh: It's actually a good book. I'm just trying to offer the TL;DR version. :-D
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:laugh: I haven't picked it up since ... 2004! I might read again. From memory though your synopsis is spot on and I might have to steal it! When I was contracting I used to joke with the other contractors that we must hide the book from the permie-burgers in case they cottoned on and stopped throwing contractors at their projects :laugh:
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:laugh: I haven't picked it up since ... 2004! I might read again. From memory though your synopsis is spot on and I might have to steal it! When I was contracting I used to joke with the other contractors that we must hide the book from the permie-burgers in case they cottoned on and stopped throwing contractors at their projects :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: You know, my father in law is a master electrician and I think he shares a similar sentiment.
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yes, we use git with visual studio and dev ops. works great. merge conflicts are still a PITA if you have too many devs working on the same code base. It is not a good idea at all.
Do you have a Merge Master yet? (No, not the branch, the person)
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This is quite spooky, about 4 hours ago I was staring at a bookshelf and spotted ... "The Mythical Man-Month" (Anniversary Edition with Four New Chapters!) - 2004 edition. I thought to myself, "which one of my colleagues shall I offload this onto?" (I'm having a clear out - VB6 manuals anyone?) Obviously no-one on this thread will want it :laugh:
CHill60 wrote:
Obviously no-one on this thread will want it
If you promise that it won't come with a legacy project... then you might still find someone somewhere... ;P :laugh:
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Throwing additional software developers at a problem in order to produce faster is like throwing additional women at a pregnancy to move it along.
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Every month is a mythical man month when you're as awesome as me! :D
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Unfortunately, our shop management decided to do just that for a certain project. Now, there are not enough curse words to describe the circus that has ensued. Talk about merge conflicts. :sigh:
Lots of merge conflicts typically means that architecture is lacking, which is something that a framework can address, despite the whining in the "Rage Against the Machine" thread above. Conflicts can also be addressed by code ownership, but that can easily get in the way when there's little in the way of an architecture or framework.
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The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing. -
Every month is a mythical man month when you're as awesome as me! :D
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You really are great. :)
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Lots of merge conflicts typically means that architecture is lacking, which is something that a framework can address, despite the whining in the "Rage Against the Machine" thread above. Conflicts can also be addressed by code ownership, but that can easily get in the way when there's little in the way of an architecture or framework.
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The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.A "plan" is not the same as a (software) framework. If you need just code monkeys, then yes, "frame" them in.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
