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  • C Christian Graus

    I've been a dev for over 20 years. I worked for a real prick in the USA for a long time. But the worst job I had was my last one. I was working for a body shop who had no work for me for six months. So I started some side work. It was all Angular JS and C# back end. The team was a dev who was really quiet, and approved a lot of what I said but never backed me up, and a person who owned the company and told me what to do, but had NFI. The company was riding on one contract, with a council who had a history of suing people who didn't deliver. My boss would agree to anything they asked for. As an example, we had to generate PDF documents and instead of doing a MVP, we went for gold, and worked for two months as they daily made changes she accepted. They had no planning they just coded madly. I tried to impliment agile and they just wouldn't do it. In the end we had a mutual parting of ways and I moved to Melbourne, where I got 4 job offers in 3 weeks. The job I moved to has been awesome, and I'm glad I was put on a path to end up here, but my God, they were useless.

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    Agile, like virginity, is its' own punishment. I'm on their side on that one. ;P

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    • C Christian Graus

      I've been a dev for over 20 years. I worked for a real prick in the USA for a long time. But the worst job I had was my last one. I was working for a body shop who had no work for me for six months. So I started some side work. It was all Angular JS and C# back end. The team was a dev who was really quiet, and approved a lot of what I said but never backed me up, and a person who owned the company and told me what to do, but had NFI. The company was riding on one contract, with a council who had a history of suing people who didn't deliver. My boss would agree to anything they asked for. As an example, we had to generate PDF documents and instead of doing a MVP, we went for gold, and worked for two months as they daily made changes she accepted. They had no planning they just coded madly. I tried to impliment agile and they just wouldn't do it. In the end we had a mutual parting of ways and I moved to Melbourne, where I got 4 job offers in 3 weeks. The job I moved to has been awesome, and I'm glad I was put on a path to end up here, but my God, they were useless.

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      If it's not fun than it's not worth. Life is too short to waste it on unhappiness.

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      • C Christian Graus

        I've been a dev for over 20 years. I worked for a real prick in the USA for a long time. But the worst job I had was my last one. I was working for a body shop who had no work for me for six months. So I started some side work. It was all Angular JS and C# back end. The team was a dev who was really quiet, and approved a lot of what I said but never backed me up, and a person who owned the company and told me what to do, but had NFI. The company was riding on one contract, with a council who had a history of suing people who didn't deliver. My boss would agree to anything they asked for. As an example, we had to generate PDF documents and instead of doing a MVP, we went for gold, and worked for two months as they daily made changes she accepted. They had no planning they just coded madly. I tried to impliment agile and they just wouldn't do it. In the end we had a mutual parting of ways and I moved to Melbourne, where I got 4 job offers in 3 weeks. The job I moved to has been awesome, and I'm glad I was put on a path to end up here, but my God, they were useless.

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        My very first professional job. The team was really nice and I enjoyed the time with them, really. But the CEO fooled me with the money, underloaded me and underestimated my skills... I stayed a bit more than a year, then I left and never looked back. Luckily for me.

        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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        • J Jacquers

          Yeah I know ;) How is it like living in Melbourne? I had plans to emigrate and have an application in SkillSelect, but the invites slowed down a lot due to Covid. At this rate it doesn't look like I'll get one. It seems like work is plentiful, but not easy to get unless you're actually there.

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          Christian Graus
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          Melbourne is awesome. I am back in Hobart, my work lets me work from home. But I do visit Melbourne often and I love it there

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          • S Slow Eddie

            Agile, like virginity, is its' own punishment. I'm on their side on that one. ;P

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            See, I've been in terrible 'agile' projects, but a well run agile project is a great place to be

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            • N Nelek

              My very first professional job. The team was really nice and I enjoyed the time with them, really. But the CEO fooled me with the money, underloaded me and underestimated my skills... I stayed a bit more than a year, then I left and never looked back. Luckily for me.

              M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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              Christian Graus
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              My first job was a small start up. I don't have a degree so every part of my career, I owe to him

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              • C Cheap Old Bastard

                If it's not fun than it's not worth. Life is too short to waste it on unhappiness.

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                And that's why I left :)

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                • CPalliniC CPallini

                  Quote:

                  My boss says 'he's not like other asians, he's assimilating. He goes pig shooting'

                  Looks soooo American boss (looks like the former American Boss :-) ).

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                  I said 'F***, I've never gone pig shooting, have I assimilated'?

                  Neither I. I'm probably the one adult male who doens't enjoy pig shooting in the small rural village where is my vacation house.

                  "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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                  I'm in Australia - no guns. It was quite surprising to be driving through rural Italy to see a guy walking through the field with a shotgun over his shoulder. EU has a most sensible attitude toward firearms AFAICT.

                  Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP

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                  • M Mycroft Holmes

                    I'm in Australia - no guns. It was quite surprising to be driving through rural Italy to see a guy walking through the field with a shotgun over his shoulder. EU has a most sensible attitude toward firearms AFAICT.

                    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP

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                    Hunters are allowed, here (and some of them hunt even when not allowed).

                    "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

                    In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                    • CPalliniC CPallini

                      Hunters are allowed, here (and some of them hunt even when not allowed).

                      "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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                      Yeah we stayed with a family in Barcelonnette, they served up wild boar, shot by the father, bloody delicious.

                      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        My first job was a small start up. I don't have a degree so every part of my career, I owe to him

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                        I was fresh graduated, doing the job of and being payed as a technician instead of an engineer. They promised me a rise after a time but it was like really short, other friends told me I was being underpayed, but I kind of thought... well, it is my first job, it will get better. Then a project came with a time in Australia for the ramp up... I offered me volunteer. - No, you don't have enough experience. - But there are 6 months programming here and then the 1 month there... - NO They sent a guy that didn't want to go because the wife was pregnant. He managed to come to the hospital 20 or 25 minutes before the kid was born. Then I got my very first project solo, to add something with a machine programmed by another guy in the company. I had 40 hours, done in 25, the customer asked me if I could had a look to something that wasn't working fine. I fixed it needing a total of 60 hours (from a 10~15% deviation error in the expected result to a 0.4~0.6%) I got blamed because I couldn't follow what I had been told and took over the estimation :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: But that the customer payed 80 hours for that project (20 hours plus for happines) and asked for two new projects to fix another two machines... nothing :doh: :doh: :doh: Then I started doing SCALA and GUI to a project from another new guy... and alone by doing the GUI I found errors in his programming. When I told him about them, he went to the boss and complained about me. When the CEO called me and told me I was being nitpicky I told him to screw himself. I was told to bring my staff on the next day and that the period of notice would be activated. But as he didn't want me there I got the 6 weeks (german contract notice) as paid holidays, I had a new job in the 4th in the other side of the country so I had to find an apartment and organize the moving in less than 2 weeks. They even gave me my first week free to end the moving and so on. I worked 8 years there, it was stressing and I sometimes met real assholes on customer side during the way, but I was good at it and I enjoyed what I did. I had to leave for familiar / personal reasons. I still get a bit angry about the first job, but all what I learnt there (and not specially the technical knowledge) helped me a lot after it, so I can't really regret it. I have even thought on doing them a visit somewhen if I go near by... just to say. Hi, thanks for firing me, I would not be where I am if I had stayed here :)

                        M.D.V. ;) If something has a so

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                        • M Mycroft Holmes

                          Yeah we stayed with a family in Barcelonnette, they served up wild boar, shot by the father, bloody delicious.

                          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP

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                          Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                          bloody delicious.

                          I've to agree.

                          "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

                          In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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