Teams screen sharing on a ultrawide monitor
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I would try using a virtual machine for the sessions. You can "clone" your physical system into a virtual machine. Set the resolution to something friendly for Team or Zoom meetings. Connect to your projects via shared folders. Lou
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
That's what I was going to suggest. Window mode for the VM and within the VM the standard resolution that the other people have. Only difference... I would not clone the system, if only used for the meetings a trimmed down version would be better. No need to have the whole drivers and so on in the VM. I usually use one with standard drivers, 1 CPU kern, 10% of my drive size and 50% of my RAM as max.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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So, I have treated myself with a 5120 x 1440 ultrawide monitor, which for coding purposes works perfect. Loads of pixels available for VS2019 to use; toolboxes and 3 concurrent code files open next to each other. Life is great. However... when screen sharing with a client during a Teams meeting, I can share either my "desktop" or a specific application. None of these works very well. Oftentimes, I need to swap between different windows during the meeting, and as such, I cannot use the "share an app" approach. Sharing the desktop is even worse, as my clients usually have standard 1920x1200 or that kind of aspect ratio, and would be presented with a very wide and very low image of my entire desktop. So, I've reverted to quickly switching my windows resolution to 2560x1440 before starting screen share, and then back again after the meeting. It works, but is annoying. A lot of people are requesting the "share a custom screen area" feature in Teams: https://microsoftteams.uservoice.com/forums/555103-public/suggestions/38834104-share-custom-area-of-screen Have any of you come accross something that can mitigate this until MS decides to implement this feature? I once found a winforms application that allegedly should be only the "frame" or "windows" around an application, hence allowing the meeting audience to see through that frame. that way, one could share that particular application and effectively obtain a custom area of screen sharing. However, I cannot find that again (my google-foo must be low currently) and I cannot remember if it was possible to click on the applications "behind" the one acting as presentation area. Other alternatives include - use two inputs on the monitor simultaneously, hence having two 2560x1440 monitors in the windows display options, and you can share only one of them. Not suitable for me, due to "gaming requirements" on the same setup. - use screen splitting like PowerToys FanzyZones or DisplayFusion, but those virtual "splits" are not recognized by Teams as indivisual desktops. So, no-go as well. Any ideas? Or maybe someone knows the application or one like it? /Jan
Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one.
Download a program called sizer, when it is running, you press CTRL + WIN + Z and then you can choose the size of the window. Set it to a 16:9 resolution and share the window. Everyone will see it at a normal size - this is also a handy app for multi tasking. Also check if your monitor has a virtual monitor PIP mode. Many ultrawides can create a virtual monitor that sits in the corner this may be of use. I don’t like it but I know people that do. I use sizer every time I stream. I also have a tiny monitor to the side of my ultra wide (repurposed laptop screen) though I am looking at getting a 15 inch portable usb monitor, as they are perfect size to sit under my ultra wide when it’s lifted on the arm stand.
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That's what I was going to suggest. Window mode for the VM and within the VM the standard resolution that the other people have. Only difference... I would not clone the system, if only used for the meetings a trimmed down version would be better. No need to have the whole drivers and so on in the VM. I usually use one with standard drivers, 1 CPU kern, 10% of my drive size and 50% of my RAM as max.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
Thanks for the suggestion! As I understand it; I would need to have my dev environment running inside a VM, and work through an RDP connection, only to gain the ability to have everything running inside an app that would be shareable from the physical machines OS, right? To me, thats more troublesome than executing my "switch to 2560x1440.bat" before the teams meeting and then the "switch to 5120x1440.bat" after the meeting. Why, oh why, can't we just have an option in Teams to share a part of the screen... Or have NVidia register the physical monitor as a number of physical monitors. That way, Windows wouldn't know the difference, and everything would work.
Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one. Chris Meech on deciding whether to go to his daughters graduation or a Neil Young concert
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So, I have treated myself with a 5120 x 1440 ultrawide monitor, which for coding purposes works perfect. Loads of pixels available for VS2019 to use; toolboxes and 3 concurrent code files open next to each other. Life is great. However... when screen sharing with a client during a Teams meeting, I can share either my "desktop" or a specific application. None of these works very well. Oftentimes, I need to swap between different windows during the meeting, and as such, I cannot use the "share an app" approach. Sharing the desktop is even worse, as my clients usually have standard 1920x1200 or that kind of aspect ratio, and would be presented with a very wide and very low image of my entire desktop. So, I've reverted to quickly switching my windows resolution to 2560x1440 before starting screen share, and then back again after the meeting. It works, but is annoying. A lot of people are requesting the "share a custom screen area" feature in Teams: https://microsoftteams.uservoice.com/forums/555103-public/suggestions/38834104-share-custom-area-of-screen Have any of you come accross something that can mitigate this until MS decides to implement this feature? I once found a winforms application that allegedly should be only the "frame" or "windows" around an application, hence allowing the meeting audience to see through that frame. that way, one could share that particular application and effectively obtain a custom area of screen sharing. However, I cannot find that again (my google-foo must be low currently) and I cannot remember if it was possible to click on the applications "behind" the one acting as presentation area. Other alternatives include - use two inputs on the monitor simultaneously, hence having two 2560x1440 monitors in the windows display options, and you can share only one of them. Not suitable for me, due to "gaming requirements" on the same setup. - use screen splitting like PowerToys FanzyZones or DisplayFusion, but those virtual "splits" are not recognized by Teams as indivisual desktops. So, no-go as well. Any ideas? Or maybe someone knows the application or one like it? /Jan
Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one.
I feel your pain, having a 4k screen, love it, FancyZones and all.... Share on Teams... nightmare.. Can only share an 'application' which like you say is pretty useless for brain storming/solving dev problems. Other Option, the quality is still cr*p but teach people to hold CTRL & Mouse Zoom Wheel. This will allow them to zoom in and move around, far from ideal but atleast they can see!
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Download a program called sizer, when it is running, you press CTRL + WIN + Z and then you can choose the size of the window. Set it to a 16:9 resolution and share the window. Everyone will see it at a normal size - this is also a handy app for multi tasking. Also check if your monitor has a virtual monitor PIP mode. Many ultrawides can create a virtual monitor that sits in the corner this may be of use. I don’t like it but I know people that do. I use sizer every time I stream. I also have a tiny monitor to the side of my ultra wide (repurposed laptop screen) though I am looking at getting a 15 inch portable usb monitor, as they are perfect size to sit under my ultra wide when it’s lifted on the arm stand.
Thanks. Yeah, the sizer-thing is nice and all, but still relies on eventually sharing an app, not a screen-area where I can switch between apps within the area. The PIP-mode is more the oppsite thing, where the monitor can display e.g. HDMI and DisplayPort1 at the same time. But points for creative thinking :-D A secondary monitor has been mentioned before, and while it probably is the fast-track solution, it still takes up space on my desk, and it would be nice to handle this without extra hardware. A USB version might be a sort of lightweight alternative though. Any recommendations?
Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one. Chris Meech on deciding whether to go to his daughters graduation or a Neil Young concert
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Thanks. Yeah, the sizer-thing is nice and all, but still relies on eventually sharing an app, not a screen-area where I can switch between apps within the area. The PIP-mode is more the oppsite thing, where the monitor can display e.g. HDMI and DisplayPort1 at the same time. But points for creative thinking :-D A secondary monitor has been mentioned before, and while it probably is the fast-track solution, it still takes up space on my desk, and it would be nice to handle this without extra hardware. A USB version might be a sort of lightweight alternative though. Any recommendations?
Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one. Chris Meech on deciding whether to go to his daughters graduation or a Neil Young concert
With regards to the PIP solution, you just pull 2 cables from your GPU. Your computer will see it as 2 monitors. Then you just turn the second one off when you're not using it. PIP can be clunky though depending on the brand of monitor. A virtual solution is better as you could move the region around without crappy monitor OSD controls.
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Thanks. Yeah, the sizer-thing is nice and all, but still relies on eventually sharing an app, not a screen-area where I can switch between apps within the area. The PIP-mode is more the oppsite thing, where the monitor can display e.g. HDMI and DisplayPort1 at the same time. But points for creative thinking :-D A secondary monitor has been mentioned before, and while it probably is the fast-track solution, it still takes up space on my desk, and it would be nice to handle this without extra hardware. A USB version might be a sort of lightweight alternative though. Any recommendations?
Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one. Chris Meech on deciding whether to go to his daughters graduation or a Neil Young concert
[Amazon.co.uk : portable monitor](https://smile.amazon.co.uk/s?k=portable+monitor&ref=nb\_sb\_noss) There are a wide range and they are lightweight and small so you either fit them below the monitor if you have space or find a way to attach them above. Here's an edge case creative thinking idea: Use OBS to create a virtual camera that is extremely customisable. You can capture your screen then go to filters and use the crop function to crop a 16:9 portion of your screen ([How to Crop and Rotate OBS Inputs - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20qsPKr6fcw)). You could use this in conjunction with sizer: Use sizer to resize the windows you hope to share to 16:9 then drag the windows into the capture mask. NOTE: Teams will flip your virtual camera so you need to flip the screen capture inside OBS: [horizontal flip of camera - Microsoft Community](https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msteams/forum/msteams\_tfe-msteams\_meeting-msteams\_audio/horizontal-flip-of-camera/cfdf60cc-90ba-48ac-9203-f0fe36d9b957) Again, just putting ideas out there. I thought have a QHD 21:9 was bad... the plight of the ultrawide owner.
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I feel your pain, having a 4k screen, love it, FancyZones and all.... Share on Teams... nightmare.. Can only share an 'application' which like you say is pretty useless for brain storming/solving dev problems. Other Option, the quality is still cr*p but teach people to hold CTRL & Mouse Zoom Wheel. This will allow them to zoom in and move around, far from ideal but atleast they can see!
yeah... you should consider using the .bat-file approach in that case. Since you run PowerToys anyway, you can use PowerToys Run to quickly execute "2560.bat" that fires the powershell command I pasted above and switches to that resolution. When you're done with the meeting, you just run ".bat" and switches back to your preferred resolution. Since your aspect ratio doesnt change (mine does) I think most window positions will be retained (relatively) and windows in full screen remain such, which is fine for you, but not for me... So that might be a quick and dirty solution for you, untill MS decides to fix Teams.
Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one. Chris Meech on deciding whether to go to his daughters graduation or a Neil Young concert
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So, I have treated myself with a 5120 x 1440 ultrawide monitor, which for coding purposes works perfect. Loads of pixels available for VS2019 to use; toolboxes and 3 concurrent code files open next to each other. Life is great. However... when screen sharing with a client during a Teams meeting, I can share either my "desktop" or a specific application. None of these works very well. Oftentimes, I need to swap between different windows during the meeting, and as such, I cannot use the "share an app" approach. Sharing the desktop is even worse, as my clients usually have standard 1920x1200 or that kind of aspect ratio, and would be presented with a very wide and very low image of my entire desktop. So, I've reverted to quickly switching my windows resolution to 2560x1440 before starting screen share, and then back again after the meeting. It works, but is annoying. A lot of people are requesting the "share a custom screen area" feature in Teams: https://microsoftteams.uservoice.com/forums/555103-public/suggestions/38834104-share-custom-area-of-screen Have any of you come accross something that can mitigate this until MS decides to implement this feature? I once found a winforms application that allegedly should be only the "frame" or "windows" around an application, hence allowing the meeting audience to see through that frame. that way, one could share that particular application and effectively obtain a custom area of screen sharing. However, I cannot find that again (my google-foo must be low currently) and I cannot remember if it was possible to click on the applications "behind" the one acting as presentation area. Other alternatives include - use two inputs on the monitor simultaneously, hence having two 2560x1440 monitors in the windows display options, and you can share only one of them. Not suitable for me, due to "gaming requirements" on the same setup. - use screen splitting like PowerToys FanzyZones or DisplayFusion, but those virtual "splits" are not recognized by Teams as indivisual desktops. So, no-go as well. Any ideas? Or maybe someone knows the application or one like it? /Jan
Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one.
Option 2: First, it's a bit too late this time, since you already bought that unexpectedly troublesome monitor (i.e., it doesn't play well with others). However, for next time. Buy, instead, a huge TV and use it as the monitor. You can open a large number of windows on it, each sized sufficiently large to be as if their own monitor. Not much different than what you have, except for one thing: the aspect ratio. With a standard aspect ratio the remote sessions will go smoothly. You can size each of your windows to full screen, as needed, and that's what they'll see if it's on top. At the same time, when not involved with others, you can enjoy that huge territory: just partially stacked instead of spread horizontally. Probably more in your field of view (if you're monitoring for something like a new email) and yet easy to concentrate on the center of your attention. I generally do not buy "the latest and the greatest" - but rather, tend towards the "sweet spot" that is used by the most users. First, of course, it's cheaper as they're trying to unload it so the newer stuff takes its place. It also, "coincidentally", makes my view compatible with almost everyone else. Even back when buying my first PC, where I did buy into "new", as in 8-bit VGA, the system perfectly emulated EGA and even CGA (as almost everyone on earth had if they had a PC) - yet, when the VGA stuff became available I could avoid buying into an upgrade (new vid card, new monitor). Basically, with this philosophy, I rarely need to replace anything until it wears out (or re-design an interface because no one else sees what I do). It may be good business sense to buy very mundane equipment (unless you're a game-developer) and avoid client problems before they happen. Maybe you can trade that new monitor in on an 80" TV ?
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Hacksaw? I dont have room for another monitor next to this monstrous thing...
Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one. Chris Meech on deciding whether to go to his daughters graduation or a Neil Young concert
I had the same issue with my UHD 3840 x 2160 monitor that I run at native scale. No one could see anything clearly. So, I bought a 1920 x 1080 monitor and mounted it to the wall (making sure I hit a wall stud) with a VESA articulating arm so I can move it in or out of the way as needed. The great thing is that most phones and even people with older equipment can handle that res.
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So, I have treated myself with a 5120 x 1440 ultrawide monitor, which for coding purposes works perfect. Loads of pixels available for VS2019 to use; toolboxes and 3 concurrent code files open next to each other. Life is great. However... when screen sharing with a client during a Teams meeting, I can share either my "desktop" or a specific application. None of these works very well. Oftentimes, I need to swap between different windows during the meeting, and as such, I cannot use the "share an app" approach. Sharing the desktop is even worse, as my clients usually have standard 1920x1200 or that kind of aspect ratio, and would be presented with a very wide and very low image of my entire desktop. So, I've reverted to quickly switching my windows resolution to 2560x1440 before starting screen share, and then back again after the meeting. It works, but is annoying. A lot of people are requesting the "share a custom screen area" feature in Teams: https://microsoftteams.uservoice.com/forums/555103-public/suggestions/38834104-share-custom-area-of-screen Have any of you come accross something that can mitigate this until MS decides to implement this feature? I once found a winforms application that allegedly should be only the "frame" or "windows" around an application, hence allowing the meeting audience to see through that frame. that way, one could share that particular application and effectively obtain a custom area of screen sharing. However, I cannot find that again (my google-foo must be low currently) and I cannot remember if it was possible to click on the applications "behind" the one acting as presentation area. Other alternatives include - use two inputs on the monitor simultaneously, hence having two 2560x1440 monitors in the windows display options, and you can share only one of them. Not suitable for me, due to "gaming requirements" on the same setup. - use screen splitting like PowerToys FanzyZones or DisplayFusion, but those virtual "splits" are not recognized by Teams as indivisual desktops. So, no-go as well. Any ideas? Or maybe someone knows the application or one like it? /Jan
Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one.
Something to consider: use "OBS" or another virtual camera. (https://obsproject.com/ OBS has the advantage of being free. It has the disadvantage of being potentially far more flexible (complex) than you want/need. I did a quick test and could set up a "scene" with the desktop as the source. Then I applied a "Crop/Pad" filter to select a portion of the screen. You could select a 1024x768 window, for example. Then you start the OBS Virtual Camera, and tell Teams to use that camera. You can have a second "scene" with your webcam and no desktop. Or you can have the webcam layered on top of the desktop. Or an image file with your corporate logo layered on the desktop in one corner, your webcam in another..... Kevin
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So, I have treated myself with a 5120 x 1440 ultrawide monitor, which for coding purposes works perfect. Loads of pixels available for VS2019 to use; toolboxes and 3 concurrent code files open next to each other. Life is great. However... when screen sharing with a client during a Teams meeting, I can share either my "desktop" or a specific application. None of these works very well. Oftentimes, I need to swap between different windows during the meeting, and as such, I cannot use the "share an app" approach. Sharing the desktop is even worse, as my clients usually have standard 1920x1200 or that kind of aspect ratio, and would be presented with a very wide and very low image of my entire desktop. So, I've reverted to quickly switching my windows resolution to 2560x1440 before starting screen share, and then back again after the meeting. It works, but is annoying. A lot of people are requesting the "share a custom screen area" feature in Teams: https://microsoftteams.uservoice.com/forums/555103-public/suggestions/38834104-share-custom-area-of-screen Have any of you come accross something that can mitigate this until MS decides to implement this feature? I once found a winforms application that allegedly should be only the "frame" or "windows" around an application, hence allowing the meeting audience to see through that frame. that way, one could share that particular application and effectively obtain a custom area of screen sharing. However, I cannot find that again (my google-foo must be low currently) and I cannot remember if it was possible to click on the applications "behind" the one acting as presentation area. Other alternatives include - use two inputs on the monitor simultaneously, hence having two 2560x1440 monitors in the windows display options, and you can share only one of them. Not suitable for me, due to "gaming requirements" on the same setup. - use screen splitting like PowerToys FanzyZones or DisplayFusion, but those virtual "splits" are not recognized by Teams as indivisual desktops. So, no-go as well. Any ideas? Or maybe someone knows the application or one like it? /Jan
Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one.
I almost bought that huge Dell curved monitor, and ran it by a friend first. He warned me of that issue so I bought 2 Dell 27" monitors last month and added a 3rd 24" monitor so I can make sure my apps don't get too large. Would of been nice to have that curved beast, but it is a beast and has it's drawbacks.
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Fueled By Decaff wrote:
Would getting a second monitor be an option?
it's his only option with Teams, I think. Great suggestion. OP, get a second monitor that you use with screen shares. Or, get rid of the obnoxious monitor size.
He can just send hhis obnoxious sized monitor to me! CQ de W5ALT
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Thanks for the suggestion! As I understand it; I would need to have my dev environment running inside a VM, and work through an RDP connection, only to gain the ability to have everything running inside an app that would be shareable from the physical machines OS, right? To me, thats more troublesome than executing my "switch to 2560x1440.bat" before the teams meeting and then the "switch to 5120x1440.bat" after the meeting. Why, oh why, can't we just have an option in Teams to share a part of the screen... Or have NVidia register the physical monitor as a number of physical monitors. That way, Windows wouldn't know the difference, and everything would work.
Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one. Chris Meech on deciding whether to go to his daughters graduation or a Neil Young concert
Jan R Hansen wrote:
Thanks for the suggestion! As I understand it; I would need to have my dev environment running inside a VM, and work through an RDP connection, only to gain the ability to have everything running inside an app that would be shareable from the physical machines OS, right?
If need the whole set of tools of your main OS... then yeah it is more a PITA than a help.
Jan R Hansen wrote:
To me, thats more troublesome than executing my "switch to 2560x1440.bat" before the teams meeting and then the "switch to 5120x1440.bat" after the meeting.
I have bookmarked your message... I am waiting the delivery of one 34 Inches monitor... but for private, my old monitor will be the second unit for the work lappie.
Jan R Hansen wrote:
Why, oh why, can't we just have an option in Teams to share a part of the screen...
We are speaking about Microsoft... aren't we?
Jan R Hansen wrote:
Or have NVidia register the physical monitor as a number of physical monitors. That way, Windows wouldn't know the difference, and everything would work.
That's actually a good idea, give them the suggestion, they are some better than others getting feedback from users.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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yeah... you should consider using the .bat-file approach in that case. Since you run PowerToys anyway, you can use PowerToys Run to quickly execute "2560.bat" that fires the powershell command I pasted above and switches to that resolution. When you're done with the meeting, you just run ".bat" and switches back to your preferred resolution. Since your aspect ratio doesnt change (mine does) I think most window positions will be retained (relatively) and windows in full screen remain such, which is fine for you, but not for me... So that might be a quick and dirty solution for you, untill MS decides to fix Teams.
Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one. Chris Meech on deciding whether to go to his daughters graduation or a Neil Young concert
Jan R Hansen wrote:
So that might be a quick and dirty solution for you, untill MS decides to fix Teams.
I wouldn't hold my breath... :rolleyes: ;P
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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So, I have treated myself with a 5120 x 1440 ultrawide monitor, which for coding purposes works perfect. Loads of pixels available for VS2019 to use; toolboxes and 3 concurrent code files open next to each other. Life is great. However... when screen sharing with a client during a Teams meeting, I can share either my "desktop" or a specific application. None of these works very well. Oftentimes, I need to swap between different windows during the meeting, and as such, I cannot use the "share an app" approach. Sharing the desktop is even worse, as my clients usually have standard 1920x1200 or that kind of aspect ratio, and would be presented with a very wide and very low image of my entire desktop. So, I've reverted to quickly switching my windows resolution to 2560x1440 before starting screen share, and then back again after the meeting. It works, but is annoying. A lot of people are requesting the "share a custom screen area" feature in Teams: https://microsoftteams.uservoice.com/forums/555103-public/suggestions/38834104-share-custom-area-of-screen Have any of you come accross something that can mitigate this until MS decides to implement this feature? I once found a winforms application that allegedly should be only the "frame" or "windows" around an application, hence allowing the meeting audience to see through that frame. that way, one could share that particular application and effectively obtain a custom area of screen sharing. However, I cannot find that again (my google-foo must be low currently) and I cannot remember if it was possible to click on the applications "behind" the one acting as presentation area. Other alternatives include - use two inputs on the monitor simultaneously, hence having two 2560x1440 monitors in the windows display options, and you can share only one of them. Not suitable for me, due to "gaming requirements" on the same setup. - use screen splitting like PowerToys FanzyZones or DisplayFusion, but those virtual "splits" are not recognized by Teams as indivisual desktops. So, no-go as well. Any ideas? Or maybe someone knows the application or one like it? /Jan
Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one.
I have an Ultra Wide. I either share a single application or ask users to Zoom in which they can do easily with CTRL mousewheel or on a touch screen pinch to zoom. If you were really desperate you could RDP to a box and set the RDP window to a 1080P ratio.
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Jan R Hansen wrote:
Thanks for the suggestion! As I understand it; I would need to have my dev environment running inside a VM, and work through an RDP connection, only to gain the ability to have everything running inside an app that would be shareable from the physical machines OS, right?
If need the whole set of tools of your main OS... then yeah it is more a PITA than a help.
Jan R Hansen wrote:
To me, thats more troublesome than executing my "switch to 2560x1440.bat" before the teams meeting and then the "switch to 5120x1440.bat" after the meeting.
I have bookmarked your message... I am waiting the delivery of one 34 Inches monitor... but for private, my old monitor will be the second unit for the work lappie.
Jan R Hansen wrote:
Why, oh why, can't we just have an option in Teams to share a part of the screen...
We are speaking about Microsoft... aren't we?
Jan R Hansen wrote:
Or have NVidia register the physical monitor as a number of physical monitors. That way, Windows wouldn't know the difference, and everything would work.
That's actually a good idea, give them the suggestion, they are some better than others getting feedback from users.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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That's actually a good idea, give them the suggestion, they are some better than others getting feedback from users.
Someone did that 9 months ago :) https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/game-ready-drivers/13/389789/feature-request-virtual-split-screen-for-ultrawi/?topicPage=17[^]
Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one. Chris Meech on deciding whether to go to his daughters graduation or a Neil Young concert
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That's actually a good idea, give them the suggestion, they are some better than others getting feedback from users.
Someone did that 9 months ago :) https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/game-ready-drivers/13/389789/feature-request-virtual-split-screen-for-ultrawi/?topicPage=17[^]
Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one. Chris Meech on deciding whether to go to his daughters graduation or a Neil Young concert
Let's hope they implement it... but just in case, don't hold your breath ;)
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So, I have treated myself with a 5120 x 1440 ultrawide monitor, which for coding purposes works perfect. Loads of pixels available for VS2019 to use; toolboxes and 3 concurrent code files open next to each other. Life is great. However... when screen sharing with a client during a Teams meeting, I can share either my "desktop" or a specific application. None of these works very well. Oftentimes, I need to swap between different windows during the meeting, and as such, I cannot use the "share an app" approach. Sharing the desktop is even worse, as my clients usually have standard 1920x1200 or that kind of aspect ratio, and would be presented with a very wide and very low image of my entire desktop. So, I've reverted to quickly switching my windows resolution to 2560x1440 before starting screen share, and then back again after the meeting. It works, but is annoying. A lot of people are requesting the "share a custom screen area" feature in Teams: https://microsoftteams.uservoice.com/forums/555103-public/suggestions/38834104-share-custom-area-of-screen Have any of you come accross something that can mitigate this until MS decides to implement this feature? I once found a winforms application that allegedly should be only the "frame" or "windows" around an application, hence allowing the meeting audience to see through that frame. that way, one could share that particular application and effectively obtain a custom area of screen sharing. However, I cannot find that again (my google-foo must be low currently) and I cannot remember if it was possible to click on the applications "behind" the one acting as presentation area. Other alternatives include - use two inputs on the monitor simultaneously, hence having two 2560x1440 monitors in the windows display options, and you can share only one of them. Not suitable for me, due to "gaming requirements" on the same setup. - use screen splitting like PowerToys FanzyZones or DisplayFusion, but those virtual "splits" are not recognized by Teams as indivisual desktops. So, no-go as well. Any ideas? Or maybe someone knows the application or one like it? /Jan
Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one.
I still use two 24" 1920 x 1080 in my environment, primarily because my sight is not as good as what it once was. However several team members have upgraded their video equipment. One has a 55" 4K monitor, and one has a 40" 4K monitor. When they screen share, I take responsibility as the viewer to zoom in on my end, and pan around as needed to see specifically what they are looking at. Make your meeting attendees aware that they can do that and put the responsibility on them.
Bill Butler www.xcent.com
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Something to consider: use "OBS" or another virtual camera. (https://obsproject.com/ OBS has the advantage of being free. It has the disadvantage of being potentially far more flexible (complex) than you want/need. I did a quick test and could set up a "scene" with the desktop as the source. Then I applied a "Crop/Pad" filter to select a portion of the screen. You could select a 1024x768 window, for example. Then you start the OBS Virtual Camera, and tell Teams to use that camera. You can have a second "scene" with your webcam and no desktop. Or you can have the webcam layered on top of the desktop. Or an image file with your corporate logo layered on the desktop in one corner, your webcam in another..... Kevin
Thanks! :thumbsup: I followed you example, and apart from having to right-click on the display capture source and select transform->fit to screen, it works just fine. Sort of. Because it appears that the transformation from a 2560x1440 area to a 1920x1080 (base canvas resolution and output scaled resolution under settings>video) makes text hard to read. I haven't yet tried to change to a 1:1 base/output resolution of 2560x1440, but that might fix it. Are you familiar with OBS and would you be able to provide a hint in that area?
Do you know why it's important to make fast decisions? Because you give yourself more time to correct your mistakes, when you find out that you made the wrong one. Chris Meech on deciding whether to go to his daughters graduation or a Neil Young concert