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  • S Super Lloyd

    Too late, Windows 11 caught me... aarrggll... tell my children I love them...

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    theoldfool
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    Your children want to know where you keep the keys to the house and the combination to the safe. :) Not fatal. Been running it and VS 2022 in a VM. Slower than 10 but that will go away. Like any interface changes, I want to puke at them at first site but I can get used to almost anything. Wow, love the shiny new icons! Also running the developer eval in a VM and it is OK. My base is Linux but I am not a zealot, just a preference. SSD's are so cheap, I don't understand why folks don't trial that way.

    >64 If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.

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      Your children want to know where you keep the keys to the house and the combination to the safe. :) Not fatal. Been running it and VS 2022 in a VM. Slower than 10 but that will go away. Like any interface changes, I want to puke at them at first site but I can get used to almost anything. Wow, love the shiny new icons! Also running the developer eval in a VM and it is OK. My base is Linux but I am not a zealot, just a preference. SSD's are so cheap, I don't understand why folks don't trial that way.

      >64 If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.

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      Super Lloyd
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      Now that you say it.. I have Windows Sandbox running Windows 11 inside my new Windows 11! Windowsception! :D (Could I run Windows Sandbox in Windows Sandbox?) And .. I am still alive! Just like you predicted! :D

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        Your children want to know where you keep the keys to the house and the combination to the safe. :) Not fatal. Been running it and VS 2022 in a VM. Slower than 10 but that will go away. Like any interface changes, I want to puke at them at first site but I can get used to almost anything. Wow, love the shiny new icons! Also running the developer eval in a VM and it is OK. My base is Linux but I am not a zealot, just a preference. SSD's are so cheap, I don't understand why folks don't trial that way.

        >64 If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.

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        Super Lloyd
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        Speaking of which... how do you turn on and off Windows feature in Windows 11 (like IIS, or Sandbox), can get the add/remove feature to show?! :O :((

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        • S Super Lloyd

          Now that you say it.. I have Windows Sandbox running Windows 11 inside my new Windows 11! Windowsception! :D (Could I run Windows Sandbox in Windows Sandbox?) And .. I am still alive! Just like you predicted! :D

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          And .. I am still alive! Just like you predicted!

          TADA! Be careful with the sandboxes, don't get yourself into infinite decreasing concentric circles. :wtf:

          >64 If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.

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          • H honey the codewitch

            I've been debating about switching.

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            Super Lloyd
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            I spotted a huuuuuuuUUUUUUUuuuuge problem with Windows 11. All the windows have a new rounded corner. But my pet project app (using custom Window chrome from MahApps.Metro) still has a square border! :sigh: :doh: mm... I can probably get rid of MahApps.... It has a nice title bar though... (that and some minor restyling is all I use, and I mean minor)

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            • S Super Lloyd

              I spotted a huuuuuuuUUUUUUUuuuuge problem with Windows 11. All the windows have a new rounded corner. But my pet project app (using custom Window chrome from MahApps.Metro) still has a square border! :sigh: :doh: mm... I can probably get rid of MahApps.... It has a nice title bar though... (that and some minor restyling is all I use, and I mean minor)

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              Your app might need some kind of manifest.

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              • S Super Lloyd

                it doesn't seem that different at first glance (except the taskbar is locked at the bottom now :/ ) But I trust it extract even more performance from the hardware... Although I heard bug report to the contrary, it was marked as urgent bug...

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                Super Lloyd wrote:

                it was marked as urgent bug

                Thanks for reminding me why I haven't switched yet. :-D

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                • J Jorgen Andersson

                  honey the codewitch wrote:

                  I think the upgrade is free

                  They are. I'm thinking about all problems that you might or might not get with updated programs and settings and such. From experience, I prefer a clean slate for new major versions.

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                  honey the codewitch
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                  I do too. I just don't want to spend the money on Win11. It's not even that I can't afford it. It's the principle. I bought Win10 (again) back in january when i bought my machine. At this point it just seems like throwing good money after bad if I make that purchase.

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                  • H honey the codewitch

                    Your app might need some kind of manifest.

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                    Nope. It's just not supported yet.... [Windows 11 integration · Issue #4140 · MahApps/MahApps.Metro · GitHub](https://github.com/MahApps/MahApps.Metro/issues/4140) In a few month, when the important stuff in my app works... I might see if I can contribute :)

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                    • H honey the codewitch

                      I do too. I just don't want to spend the money on Win11. It's not even that I can't afford it. It's the principle. I bought Win10 (again) back in january when i bought my machine. At this point it just seems like throwing good money after bad if I make that purchase.

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                      I always get the license with my hardware. So I guess you're using a VM. In that case you could probably make a copy of the VM that you can upgrade, then create a new VM and move that license to it. Would have to check the license agreement to make sure though.

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                      • H honey the codewitch

                        Super Lloyd wrote:

                        it was marked as urgent bug

                        Thanks for reminding me why I haven't switched yet. :-D

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                        only in some case with some hardware... I think, I forgot the name, but those SSD that look like a memory chip, are supposed to be slower. Got one on as my main drive though, not noticing anything (not that I am taxing the system anyway) (by supposed to be, I mean it's a bug, of course)

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                        • H honey the codewitch

                          I do too. I just don't want to spend the money on Win11. It's not even that I can't afford it. It's the principle. I bought Win10 (again) back in january when i bought my machine. At this point it just seems like throwing good money after bad if I make that purchase.

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                          Jorgen Andersson
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                          Do you have Home or Pro?

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                          • J Jorgen Andersson

                            Do you have Home or Pro?

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                            honey the codewitch
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                            I have home. I used to always upgrade to pro until i realized there's no point.

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                              only in some case with some hardware... I think, I forgot the name, but those SSD that look like a memory chip, are supposed to be slower. Got one on as my main drive though, not noticing anything (not that I am taxing the system anyway) (by supposed to be, I mean it's a bug, of course)

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                              honey the codewitch
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                              Yeah, I run NVMe. If they slowed that down they can take a running jump. I'll wait for them to fix it as I tear the crap out of that drive.

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                              • J Jorgen Andersson

                                I always get the license with my hardware. So I guess you're using a VM. In that case you could probably make a copy of the VM that you can upgrade, then create a new VM and move that license to it. Would have to check the license agreement to make sure though.

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                                honey the codewitch
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                                No, I got it with my hardware. I consider that buying it, particularly since I had the option of No operating system, or linux or windows pro (each for different $$$ - well linux was free) when I purchased the system.

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                                • H honey the codewitch

                                  I have home. I used to always upgrade to pro until i realized there's no point.

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                                  Jorgen Andersson
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                                  There are some points that might not affect you. But the good news is that there's a clean install option when upgrading.

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                                    There are some points that might not affect you. But the good news is that there's a clean install option when upgrading.

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                                    honey the codewitch
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                                    Oh, that's good to know. The issue for me then is losing all my stuff. Although I keep my Documents/Photos/Videos/Music mapped to my D: drive so at least I won't lose that. Still, moving an OS is a huge amount of work. I think I'll wait for 11 to mature some.

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                                    • H honey the codewitch

                                      Oh, that's good to know. The issue for me then is losing all my stuff. Although I keep my Documents/Photos/Videos/Music mapped to my D: drive so at least I won't lose that. Still, moving an OS is a huge amount of work. I think I'll wait for 11 to mature some.

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                                      Jorgen Andersson
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                                      I believe this:Free Backup Software for Windows | AOMEI Backupper Standard[^] is the one Griff usually recommends to make a complete backup of the drive.

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                                      • J Jorgen Andersson

                                        I believe this:Free Backup Software for Windows | AOMEI Backupper Standard[^] is the one Griff usually recommends to make a complete backup of the drive.

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                                        honey the codewitch
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                                        I wouldn't need a backup of my drive so much as something that keeps all my programs and stuff installed. It's not going to happen. That means at least a day of rebuilding my environment.

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                                        • H honey the codewitch

                                          I wouldn't need a backup of my drive so much as something that keeps all my programs and stuff installed. It's not going to happen. That means at least a day of rebuilding my environment.

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                                          Jorgen Andersson
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                                          Then an upgrade would be better.

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