Comparison of 2 Web Hosts
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This may be interesting if you are comparing / deciding upon which web host to use. I've had a miserable time finding one that is consistent. Long ago I used GoDaddy & invariably it would get into a state where it was inaccessible or so slow that it would be useless & people thought my site was down. I moved to SmarterAsp.net & they are extremely fast. However, their entire site has been DDOS'd two times in the past year or so. With an outage recently that left my site unavailable for over 24 hours. They also have a snippet at the bottom of their sales page[^] that states:
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99.9% Uptime Guarantee We'll credit you a MONTH's service for every hour of interrupted service.
I contacted them about it and they said, "Nope. We don't do that for DDOS attacks. It's in our SLA, read it." So I decided to move to WinHost However, their site is SUPER S-L-O-W -- and their control panel doesn't report as much good stuff. Super Slow? I created this little test & I would appreciate it if any of you would try it out on both sites then report values here. Here's the test that I run to compare SmarterASP.net to WinHost. 1) Load page which includes 5MB image. 2) measure time while page loads (get time before & after page load, compare milliseconds) Comparison Snapshots Check out the difference in load times: Loaded via SmarterASP.NET web site[^]. Loaded via WinHost web site[^]. Load Times SmarterASP.NET loaded it in 1.565 seconds WinHost loaded it in 13.615 seconds. 🤯🤯🤯 Possible Difference SmarterASP one is not doing HTTPS I moved the test under one of my sites hosted by SmarterASP which is also on HTTPS and ran it again: SmarterASP.net site with HTTPS[^] (image of results). Still extremely fast 0.952 seconds. Might You Try it For Me? Would you mind trying it and letting me know what you get for
1.1s (winhost) vs 14.7s (sMaRtErAsP.nEt). From: PA, USA.
raddevus wrote:
SmarterASP one is not doing HTTPS
This shouldn't matter unless they're using decade+ old servers; anything newer has hardware acceleration in the CPU and should see something like a 1% performance impact from HTTPS.
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This may be interesting if you are comparing / deciding upon which web host to use. I've had a miserable time finding one that is consistent. Long ago I used GoDaddy & invariably it would get into a state where it was inaccessible or so slow that it would be useless & people thought my site was down. I moved to SmarterAsp.net & they are extremely fast. However, their entire site has been DDOS'd two times in the past year or so. With an outage recently that left my site unavailable for over 24 hours. They also have a snippet at the bottom of their sales page[^] that states:
Quote:
99.9% Uptime Guarantee We'll credit you a MONTH's service for every hour of interrupted service.
I contacted them about it and they said, "Nope. We don't do that for DDOS attacks. It's in our SLA, read it." So I decided to move to WinHost However, their site is SUPER S-L-O-W -- and their control panel doesn't report as much good stuff. Super Slow? I created this little test & I would appreciate it if any of you would try it out on both sites then report values here. Here's the test that I run to compare SmarterASP.net to WinHost. 1) Load page which includes 5MB image. 2) measure time while page loads (get time before & after page load, compare milliseconds) Comparison Snapshots Check out the difference in load times: Loaded via SmarterASP.NET web site[^]. Loaded via WinHost web site[^]. Load Times SmarterASP.NET loaded it in 1.565 seconds WinHost loaded it in 13.615 seconds. 🤯🤯🤯 Possible Difference SmarterASP one is not doing HTTPS I moved the test under one of my sites hosted by SmarterASP which is also on HTTPS and ran it again: SmarterASP.net site with HTTPS[^] (image of results). Still extremely fast 0.952 seconds. Might You Try it For Me? Would you mind trying it and letting me know what you get for
Run from Rockford, Illinois Winhost: 13.496 SmarterASP: 6.489
Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@mhemail.org
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This may be interesting if you are comparing / deciding upon which web host to use. I've had a miserable time finding one that is consistent. Long ago I used GoDaddy & invariably it would get into a state where it was inaccessible or so slow that it would be useless & people thought my site was down. I moved to SmarterAsp.net & they are extremely fast. However, their entire site has been DDOS'd two times in the past year or so. With an outage recently that left my site unavailable for over 24 hours. They also have a snippet at the bottom of their sales page[^] that states:
Quote:
99.9% Uptime Guarantee We'll credit you a MONTH's service for every hour of interrupted service.
I contacted them about it and they said, "Nope. We don't do that for DDOS attacks. It's in our SLA, read it." So I decided to move to WinHost However, their site is SUPER S-L-O-W -- and their control panel doesn't report as much good stuff. Super Slow? I created this little test & I would appreciate it if any of you would try it out on both sites then report values here. Here's the test that I run to compare SmarterASP.net to WinHost. 1) Load page which includes 5MB image. 2) measure time while page loads (get time before & after page load, compare milliseconds) Comparison Snapshots Check out the difference in load times: Loaded via SmarterASP.NET web site[^]. Loaded via WinHost web site[^]. Load Times SmarterASP.NET loaded it in 1.565 seconds WinHost loaded it in 13.615 seconds. 🤯🤯🤯 Possible Difference SmarterASP one is not doing HTTPS I moved the test under one of my sites hosted by SmarterASP which is also on HTTPS and ran it again: SmarterASP.net site with HTTPS[^] (image of results). Still extremely fast 0.952 seconds. Might You Try it For Me? Would you mind trying it and letting me know what you get for
The SmarterASP loads much much faster. I am located on Borneo Island.
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Winhost approx 8 seconds. Smarter Asp approx 2 seconds. I suggest checking out Interserver.
Thanks so much for running the test. WinHost is consistently (from around the world) 2 - 10X slower.
Gary S 2021 wrote:
I suggest checking out Interserver.
:thumbsup: That's so funny, because I just (before reading your messsage) signed up for 1 month & I uploaded speedTest files & tesed & it was less than 1 second to load.
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Run from Rockford, Illinois Winhost: 13.496 SmarterASP: 6.489
Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@mhemail.org
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The SmarterASP loads much much faster. I am located on Borneo Island.
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This may be interesting if you are comparing / deciding upon which web host to use. I've had a miserable time finding one that is consistent. Long ago I used GoDaddy & invariably it would get into a state where it was inaccessible or so slow that it would be useless & people thought my site was down. I moved to SmarterAsp.net & they are extremely fast. However, their entire site has been DDOS'd two times in the past year or so. With an outage recently that left my site unavailable for over 24 hours. They also have a snippet at the bottom of their sales page[^] that states:
Quote:
99.9% Uptime Guarantee We'll credit you a MONTH's service for every hour of interrupted service.
I contacted them about it and they said, "Nope. We don't do that for DDOS attacks. It's in our SLA, read it." So I decided to move to WinHost However, their site is SUPER S-L-O-W -- and their control panel doesn't report as much good stuff. Super Slow? I created this little test & I would appreciate it if any of you would try it out on both sites then report values here. Here's the test that I run to compare SmarterASP.net to WinHost. 1) Load page which includes 5MB image. 2) measure time while page loads (get time before & after page load, compare milliseconds) Comparison Snapshots Check out the difference in load times: Loaded via SmarterASP.NET web site[^]. Loaded via WinHost web site[^]. Load Times SmarterASP.NET loaded it in 1.565 seconds WinHost loaded it in 13.615 seconds. 🤯🤯🤯 Possible Difference SmarterASP one is not doing HTTPS I moved the test under one of my sites hosted by SmarterASP which is also on HTTPS and ran it again: SmarterASP.net site with HTTPS[^] (image of results). Still extremely fast 0.952 seconds. Might You Try it For Me? Would you mind trying it and letting me know what you get for
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This may be interesting if you are comparing / deciding upon which web host to use. I've had a miserable time finding one that is consistent. Long ago I used GoDaddy & invariably it would get into a state where it was inaccessible or so slow that it would be useless & people thought my site was down. I moved to SmarterAsp.net & they are extremely fast. However, their entire site has been DDOS'd two times in the past year or so. With an outage recently that left my site unavailable for over 24 hours. They also have a snippet at the bottom of their sales page[^] that states:
Quote:
99.9% Uptime Guarantee We'll credit you a MONTH's service for every hour of interrupted service.
I contacted them about it and they said, "Nope. We don't do that for DDOS attacks. It's in our SLA, read it." So I decided to move to WinHost However, their site is SUPER S-L-O-W -- and their control panel doesn't report as much good stuff. Super Slow? I created this little test & I would appreciate it if any of you would try it out on both sites then report values here. Here's the test that I run to compare SmarterASP.net to WinHost. 1) Load page which includes 5MB image. 2) measure time while page loads (get time before & after page load, compare milliseconds) Comparison Snapshots Check out the difference in load times: Loaded via SmarterASP.NET web site[^]. Loaded via WinHost web site[^]. Load Times SmarterASP.NET loaded it in 1.565 seconds WinHost loaded it in 13.615 seconds. 🤯🤯🤯 Possible Difference SmarterASP one is not doing HTTPS I moved the test under one of my sites hosted by SmarterASP which is also on HTTPS and ran it again: SmarterASP.net site with HTTPS[^] (image of results). Still extremely fast 0.952 seconds. Might You Try it For Me? Would you mind trying it and letting me know what you get for
1. There are a few page-speed-test tools out there, that will hit your page from dozens of locations on planet earth.. measuring ttfb and full load time, etc. https://www.dotcom-tools.com/website-speed-test[^] 2. Things like HTTPS and HTTP/2 matter, hugely. 3. If you care about speed, reliability and security (incl. ddos-protection) you should really serve everything from a CDN edge-cache like Cloudflare or AWS CloudFront. Even if your content isn't cacheable.. just using a CF endpoint as a "proxy" will have huge benefits for short-circuiting roundtrips from browser-to-server. (Just establishing a single HTTPS connection requires several sequential TCP roundtrips.)
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This may be interesting if you are comparing / deciding upon which web host to use. I've had a miserable time finding one that is consistent. Long ago I used GoDaddy & invariably it would get into a state where it was inaccessible or so slow that it would be useless & people thought my site was down. I moved to SmarterAsp.net & they are extremely fast. However, their entire site has been DDOS'd two times in the past year or so. With an outage recently that left my site unavailable for over 24 hours. They also have a snippet at the bottom of their sales page[^] that states:
Quote:
99.9% Uptime Guarantee We'll credit you a MONTH's service for every hour of interrupted service.
I contacted them about it and they said, "Nope. We don't do that for DDOS attacks. It's in our SLA, read it." So I decided to move to WinHost However, their site is SUPER S-L-O-W -- and their control panel doesn't report as much good stuff. Super Slow? I created this little test & I would appreciate it if any of you would try it out on both sites then report values here. Here's the test that I run to compare SmarterASP.net to WinHost. 1) Load page which includes 5MB image. 2) measure time while page loads (get time before & after page load, compare milliseconds) Comparison Snapshots Check out the difference in load times: Loaded via SmarterASP.NET web site[^]. Loaded via WinHost web site[^]. Load Times SmarterASP.NET loaded it in 1.565 seconds WinHost loaded it in 13.615 seconds. 🤯🤯🤯 Possible Difference SmarterASP one is not doing HTTPS I moved the test under one of my sites hosted by SmarterASP which is also on HTTPS and ran it again: SmarterASP.net site with HTTPS[^] (image of results). Still extremely fast 0.952 seconds. Might You Try it For Me? Would you mind trying it and letting me know what you get for
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I tried this twice First Test WinHost 7.873 SmarterASP 7.703 Second Test WinHost 9.013 SmarterASP 7.717 I am in Northern Arizona and Frontier connection is either in Phoenix or Palo Alto So does location and ISP provider affect the numbers?
Thanks for trying it out. And, I do believe that it does matter where you are physically located in relation to where my web server is located. It's a very odd thing actually & I've learned a bit about it but it is still quite confusing. Most people saw WinHost 2x - 10x slower. But I did notice that if you are "closer" to the WinHost one it could resolve just as fast.
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This may be interesting if you are comparing / deciding upon which web host to use. I've had a miserable time finding one that is consistent. Long ago I used GoDaddy & invariably it would get into a state where it was inaccessible or so slow that it would be useless & people thought my site was down. I moved to SmarterAsp.net & they are extremely fast. However, their entire site has been DDOS'd two times in the past year or so. With an outage recently that left my site unavailable for over 24 hours. They also have a snippet at the bottom of their sales page[^] that states:
Quote:
99.9% Uptime Guarantee We'll credit you a MONTH's service for every hour of interrupted service.
I contacted them about it and they said, "Nope. We don't do that for DDOS attacks. It's in our SLA, read it." So I decided to move to WinHost However, their site is SUPER S-L-O-W -- and their control panel doesn't report as much good stuff. Super Slow? I created this little test & I would appreciate it if any of you would try it out on both sites then report values here. Here's the test that I run to compare SmarterASP.net to WinHost. 1) Load page which includes 5MB image. 2) measure time while page loads (get time before & after page load, compare milliseconds) Comparison Snapshots Check out the difference in load times: Loaded via SmarterASP.NET web site[^]. Loaded via WinHost web site[^]. Load Times SmarterASP.NET loaded it in 1.565 seconds WinHost loaded it in 13.615 seconds. 🤯🤯🤯 Possible Difference SmarterASP one is not doing HTTPS I moved the test under one of my sites hosted by SmarterASP which is also on HTTPS and ran it again: SmarterASP.net site with HTTPS[^] (image of results). Still extremely fast 0.952 seconds. Might You Try it For Me? Would you mind trying it and letting me know what you get for
raddevus wrote:
Would you mind trying it and letting me know what you get for each site? 1) WinHost Site: Test Load Speed[^] 2) SmarterASP.net site: Test Load Speed[^]
Well, I didn't get such bad results. The first, via newlibre.com
Testing Load Speed
beginTime: Tue Apr 05 2022 15:33:57 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
endTime: Tue Apr 05 2022 15:34:01 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
3.721 seconds elapsed during load.The second, via cyapass.com
Testing Load Speed
beginTime: Tue Apr 05 2022 15:33:50 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
endTime: Tue Apr 05 2022 15:33:52 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
2.036 seconds elapsed during load. -
raddevus wrote:
Would you mind trying it and letting me know what you get for each site? 1) WinHost Site: Test Load Speed[^] 2) SmarterASP.net site: Test Load Speed[^]
Well, I didn't get such bad results. The first, via newlibre.com
Testing Load Speed
beginTime: Tue Apr 05 2022 15:33:57 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
endTime: Tue Apr 05 2022 15:34:01 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
3.721 seconds elapsed during load.The second, via cyapass.com
Testing Load Speed
beginTime: Tue Apr 05 2022 15:33:50 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
endTime: Tue Apr 05 2022 15:33:52 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
2.036 seconds elapsed during load.Actually, I have now switched (and the DNS seems to have propagated through) to amazingly fast InterServer.net web host. I believe your test (newlibre.com) probably hit the new site ip address 162.246.23.194. Thanks very much for trying it out.:thumbsup:
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This may be interesting if you are comparing / deciding upon which web host to use. I've had a miserable time finding one that is consistent. Long ago I used GoDaddy & invariably it would get into a state where it was inaccessible or so slow that it would be useless & people thought my site was down. I moved to SmarterAsp.net & they are extremely fast. However, their entire site has been DDOS'd two times in the past year or so. With an outage recently that left my site unavailable for over 24 hours. They also have a snippet at the bottom of their sales page[^] that states:
Quote:
99.9% Uptime Guarantee We'll credit you a MONTH's service for every hour of interrupted service.
I contacted them about it and they said, "Nope. We don't do that for DDOS attacks. It's in our SLA, read it." So I decided to move to WinHost However, their site is SUPER S-L-O-W -- and their control panel doesn't report as much good stuff. Super Slow? I created this little test & I would appreciate it if any of you would try it out on both sites then report values here. Here's the test that I run to compare SmarterASP.net to WinHost. 1) Load page which includes 5MB image. 2) measure time while page loads (get time before & after page load, compare milliseconds) Comparison Snapshots Check out the difference in load times: Loaded via SmarterASP.NET web site[^]. Loaded via WinHost web site[^]. Load Times SmarterASP.NET loaded it in 1.565 seconds WinHost loaded it in 13.615 seconds. 🤯🤯🤯 Possible Difference SmarterASP one is not doing HTTPS I moved the test under one of my sites hosted by SmarterASP which is also on HTTPS and ran it again: SmarterASP.net site with HTTPS[^] (image of results). Still extremely fast 0.952 seconds. Might You Try it For Me? Would you mind trying it and letting me know what you get for
Overall, I'd say there's a huge difference (running from Redmond, WA - see below). ## WinHost: https://newlibre.com/speedTest/index.htm * 1st attempt (Edge): * HTTP Error 503.0 - Service Unavailable * 2nd attempt: * 7.976 seconds elapsed during load. * 3rd attempt (refresh): * 0 seconds elapsed during load. * 4th attempt (Chrome): * 2.833 seconds elapsed during load. ## SmarterASP.net: https://cyapass.com/speedTest/index.htm * 1st attempt (Edge): * 0.972 seconds elapsed during load. * 2nd attempt (refresh): * 0.001 seconds elapsed during load. * 3rd attempt (Chrome): * 0.982 seconds elapsed during load. ## Comments Differences could be network performance, disk performance, or caching. Edge versus Chrome variation might be at related to caching connection information or caching at the web host (where the first connection, Edge established the connection information and caused the host cache to load, then Chrome used it). A CDN would help with both performance and DDOS attacks for static content. Larger, more established providers, often have built in DDOS defenses and CDNs, but optimizing costs may require a little more creativity.
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This may be interesting if you are comparing / deciding upon which web host to use. I've had a miserable time finding one that is consistent. Long ago I used GoDaddy & invariably it would get into a state where it was inaccessible or so slow that it would be useless & people thought my site was down. I moved to SmarterAsp.net & they are extremely fast. However, their entire site has been DDOS'd two times in the past year or so. With an outage recently that left my site unavailable for over 24 hours. They also have a snippet at the bottom of their sales page[^] that states:
Quote:
99.9% Uptime Guarantee We'll credit you a MONTH's service for every hour of interrupted service.
I contacted them about it and they said, "Nope. We don't do that for DDOS attacks. It's in our SLA, read it." So I decided to move to WinHost However, their site is SUPER S-L-O-W -- and their control panel doesn't report as much good stuff. Super Slow? I created this little test & I would appreciate it if any of you would try it out on both sites then report values here. Here's the test that I run to compare SmarterASP.net to WinHost. 1) Load page which includes 5MB image. 2) measure time while page loads (get time before & after page load, compare milliseconds) Comparison Snapshots Check out the difference in load times: Loaded via SmarterASP.NET web site[^]. Loaded via WinHost web site[^]. Load Times SmarterASP.NET loaded it in 1.565 seconds WinHost loaded it in 13.615 seconds. 🤯🤯🤯 Possible Difference SmarterASP one is not doing HTTPS I moved the test under one of my sites hosted by SmarterASP which is also on HTTPS and ran it again: SmarterASP.net site with HTTPS[^] (image of results). Still extremely fast 0.952 seconds. Might You Try it For Me? Would you mind trying it and letting me know what you get for
1st load. WinHost: 2.556 seconds elapsed during load. SmarterASP: 2.812 seconds elapsed during load. 2nd load: WinHost: 0.122 seconds elapsed during load. SmarterASP: 0.173 seconds elapsed during load. Near Toronto, EST. - The index and js pages appear to be different sizes on each site (larger on the second), and the favicon was not found on the first site. - Firefox gave me a warning about loading the newlibre site. - Be sure to optimize your images if actually using any.
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1st load. WinHost: 2.556 seconds elapsed during load. SmarterASP: 2.812 seconds elapsed during load. 2nd load: WinHost: 0.122 seconds elapsed during load. SmarterASP: 0.173 seconds elapsed during load. Near Toronto, EST. - The index and js pages appear to be different sizes on each site (larger on the second), and the favicon was not found on the first site. - Firefox gave me a warning about loading the newlibre site. - Be sure to optimize your images if actually using any.
Thanks so much for testing. At this point I have now moved the newlibre.com site to YAH (Yet Another Host - interserver.net) and it is orders of magnitude faster.
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This may be interesting if you are comparing / deciding upon which web host to use. I've had a miserable time finding one that is consistent. Long ago I used GoDaddy & invariably it would get into a state where it was inaccessible or so slow that it would be useless & people thought my site was down. I moved to SmarterAsp.net & they are extremely fast. However, their entire site has been DDOS'd two times in the past year or so. With an outage recently that left my site unavailable for over 24 hours. They also have a snippet at the bottom of their sales page[^] that states:
Quote:
99.9% Uptime Guarantee We'll credit you a MONTH's service for every hour of interrupted service.
I contacted them about it and they said, "Nope. We don't do that for DDOS attacks. It's in our SLA, read it." So I decided to move to WinHost However, their site is SUPER S-L-O-W -- and their control panel doesn't report as much good stuff. Super Slow? I created this little test & I would appreciate it if any of you would try it out on both sites then report values here. Here's the test that I run to compare SmarterASP.net to WinHost. 1) Load page which includes 5MB image. 2) measure time while page loads (get time before & after page load, compare milliseconds) Comparison Snapshots Check out the difference in load times: Loaded via SmarterASP.NET web site[^]. Loaded via WinHost web site[^]. Load Times SmarterASP.NET loaded it in 1.565 seconds WinHost loaded it in 13.615 seconds. 🤯🤯🤯 Possible Difference SmarterASP one is not doing HTTPS I moved the test under one of my sites hosted by SmarterASP which is also on HTTPS and ran it again: SmarterASP.net site with HTTPS[^] (image of results). Still extremely fast 0.952 seconds. Might You Try it For Me? Would you mind trying it and letting me know what you get for
I got (in order): Under 2 seconds About 2 seconds...
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I got (in order): Under 2 seconds About 2 seconds...
Yep, thanks for testing. I've now moved to InterServer.net as the main web host & it is blazing fast. Most likely when you hit the https://newlibre.com/speedTest you hit the new one. Thanks again.
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This may be interesting if you are comparing / deciding upon which web host to use. I've had a miserable time finding one that is consistent. Long ago I used GoDaddy & invariably it would get into a state where it was inaccessible or so slow that it would be useless & people thought my site was down. I moved to SmarterAsp.net & they are extremely fast. However, their entire site has been DDOS'd two times in the past year or so. With an outage recently that left my site unavailable for over 24 hours. They also have a snippet at the bottom of their sales page[^] that states:
Quote:
99.9% Uptime Guarantee We'll credit you a MONTH's service for every hour of interrupted service.
I contacted them about it and they said, "Nope. We don't do that for DDOS attacks. It's in our SLA, read it." So I decided to move to WinHost However, their site is SUPER S-L-O-W -- and their control panel doesn't report as much good stuff. Super Slow? I created this little test & I would appreciate it if any of you would try it out on both sites then report values here. Here's the test that I run to compare SmarterASP.net to WinHost. 1) Load page which includes 5MB image. 2) measure time while page loads (get time before & after page load, compare milliseconds) Comparison Snapshots Check out the difference in load times: Loaded via SmarterASP.NET web site[^]. Loaded via WinHost web site[^]. Load Times SmarterASP.NET loaded it in 1.565 seconds WinHost loaded it in 13.615 seconds. 🤯🤯🤯 Possible Difference SmarterASP one is not doing HTTPS I moved the test under one of my sites hosted by SmarterASP which is also on HTTPS and ran it again: SmarterASP.net site with HTTPS[^] (image of results). Still extremely fast 0.952 seconds. Might You Try it For Me? Would you mind trying it and letting me know what you get for
newlibre.com/speedTest/index.htm = 2.479 seconds elapsed during load. cyapass.com/speedTest/index.htm = 2.18 seconds elapsed during load.
