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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    Splitter! The Real Distance is obviously 3 spaces per tab.

    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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    Mycroft Holmes
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    Nah I like a tight real estate, 2 spaces per tab works best.

    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP

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    • K Kevin Marois

      Quick survey... How many of you uses tabs vs spaces to indent your code?

      If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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      Franc Morales
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      Tabs because it is just one keypress.

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      • K k5054

        FreedMalloc wrote:

        I generally set up the IDE to sub 4 spaces for a tab.

        Infidel! All right-minded people know that a tab stop is every 8 spaces! Anything else is heresy! Your immortal soul will be condemned to an eternity in an infinite loop unless you repent!

        Keep Calm and Carry On

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        PIEBALDconsult
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        No, TAB stops are by distance, not character count. A half inch is sufficient.

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          I will answer the question you intended to ask. I use tabs. Set to 2 spaces as that is the indentation size I always use. I use the tabs because a lot of my coworkers use 4 spaces and they came just adjust the tab size to give the code the look they are used to.

          If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.

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          Greg Utas
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          I would've never thought there could be a good argument for tabs, but this sounds like a good way to satisfy everyone. My only question would be what the code looks like outside the IDE, in GitHub or even Notepad, for example.

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          • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

            I would've never thought there could be a good argument for tabs, but this sounds like a good way to satisfy everyone. My only question would be what the code looks like outside the IDE, in GitHub or even Notepad, for example.

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            Kevin Marois
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            That's exaclty what drove me to ask. GitHub. PR's sometimes don't format correctly.

            If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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            • K Kevin Marois

              Quick survey... How many of you uses tabs vs spaces to indent your code?

              If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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              Ravi Bhavnani
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              I use 1 tab = 4 spaces. /ravi

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              • K Kevin Marois

                Quick survey... How many of you uses tabs vs spaces to indent your code?

                If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                User 13269747
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                I use whatever the project already uses. Some projects use tabs, some use spaces. When I start new projects, I use whatever the specific team[1] already uses - some teams have tabs set up as default in their IDE, some have spaces. In the rare occasion that I start a solo project with no team I tend to go with spaces. [1] I work across multiple teams.

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  Splitter! The Real Distance is obviously 3 spaces per tab.

                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                  Wizard of Sleeves
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                  2½ spaces per tab

                  Nothing succeeds like a budgie without teeth. To err is human, to arr is pirate.

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                  • K Kevin Marois

                    Quick survey... How many of you uses tabs vs spaces to indent your code?

                    If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                    Wizard of Sleeves
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                    I use the tab key, but my IDE converts them to spaces.

                    Nothing succeeds like a budgie without teeth. To err is human, to arr is pirate.

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                    • K k5054

                      FreedMalloc wrote:

                      I generally set up the IDE to sub 4 spaces for a tab.

                      Infidel! All right-minded people know that a tab stop is every 8 spaces! Anything else is heresy! Your immortal soul will be condemned to an eternity in an infinite loop unless you repent!

                      Keep Calm and Carry On

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                      Lost User
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                      I never understood that, 8 spaces per tab, on a teletype of all things - sheer lunacy.

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                      • K Kevin Marois

                        Quick survey... How many of you uses tabs vs spaces to indent your code?

                        If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                        den2k88
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                        I prefer tabs because when I have to move code from an indentation level to another it requires less deletes. Also allows for fancy editing like a different character width for indentation than for code (it helps for people who have to set the font to 12pt with 125% or 150% magnification active, like yours truly). Also I have worked on a codebase modified by several people in several years with different tools and different indentations. Code was something like

                        if (condition){
                        code;
                        if (cnd2)
                        {
                        code;
                        }
                        code;
                        while(something)
                        {
                        code;
                        }
                        }

                        Tabs would have fixed the lunacy.

                        GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                        • W Wizard of Sleeves

                          2½ spaces per tab

                          Nothing succeeds like a budgie without teeth. To err is human, to arr is pirate.

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                          OriginalGriff
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                          :sigh: There's always someone who just wants to watch the world burn, isn't there? OK. You can have your half-a-space provided it's the top half.

                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                          • K Kevin Marois

                            Quick survey... How many of you uses tabs vs spaces to indent your code?

                            If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                            acego
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                            I normally use Tab key (4 spaces) but it also depends on the IDE

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                            • K Kevin Marois

                              Quick survey... How many of you uses tabs vs spaces to indent your code?

                              If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                              Cpichols
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                              I use a 2-space tab.

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                              • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

                                I would've never thought there could be a good argument for tabs, but this sounds like a good way to satisfy everyone. My only question would be what the code looks like outside the IDE, in GitHub or even Notepad, for example.

                                Robust Services Core | Software Techniques for Lemmings | Articles
                                The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.

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                                Cpichols
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                                I only care about what it looks like to the one working on the code. When dealing with changes to legacy code, I follow the patter established, which usually means copy/paste of the disparate numbers of spaces depending on the mood of the coder when it was created in notepad :wtf: I really hate the ripple effect that gives - I mean choose an indentation style and stick with it. I'm happiest when working on fresh apps where I can use auto indenting on vscode. So much pleasanter and I can properly collapse the bits I don't need to see right now. Why would I screw that up with using spaces? Just no.

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                                  I only care about what it looks like to the one working on the code. When dealing with changes to legacy code, I follow the patter established, which usually means copy/paste of the disparate numbers of spaces depending on the mood of the coder when it was created in notepad :wtf: I really hate the ripple effect that gives - I mean choose an indentation style and stick with it. I'm happiest when working on fresh apps where I can use auto indenting on vscode. So much pleasanter and I can properly collapse the bits I don't need to see right now. Why would I screw that up with using spaces? Just no.

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                                  Greg Utas
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                                  What does using spaces have to do with collapsing code that you don't need to see right now?

                                  Robust Services Core | Software Techniques for Lemmings | Articles
                                  The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.

                                  <p><a href="https://github.com/GregUtas/robust-services-core/blob/master/README.md">Robust Services Core</a>
                                  <em>The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.</em></p>

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                                  • K Kevin Marois

                                    Quick survey... How many of you uses tabs vs spaces to indent your code?

                                    If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                                    JohnDG52
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                                    I prefer tabs - but the VS editor seems to have it's own idea about how they should be rendered, so I often end up using a mixture.

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                                    • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

                                      What does using spaces have to do with collapsing code that you don't need to see right now?

                                      Robust Services Core | Software Techniques for Lemmings | Articles
                                      The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.

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                                      Cpichols
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                                      You should see this crazy code. It was like they decided arbitrarily each day where to start their nested content.

                                      code
                                      

                                      condition
                                      {
                                      code
                                      condition
                                      {
                                      super long lines of code that go all the way off a standard screen with references to deeply nested arrays
                                      }
                                      other code
                                      }

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                                        You should see this crazy code. It was like they decided arbitrarily each day where to start their nested content.

                                        code
                                        

                                        condition
                                        {
                                        code
                                        condition
                                        {
                                        super long lines of code that go all the way off a standard screen with references to deeply nested arrays
                                        }
                                        other code
                                        }

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                                        Cpichols
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                                        #29

                                        Yeah that didn't translate right; guess I should have used " "

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                                        • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

                                          What does using spaces have to do with collapsing code that you don't need to see right now?

                                          Robust Services Core | Software Techniques for Lemmings | Articles
                                          The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.

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                                          Cpichols
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                                          Plus it's way easier to screw up the number of spaces needed. I guess that IDEs can be set to auto indent with spaces, but if someone else goes in there with notepad, it'll be a mess in a hurry. Using tabs discourages the use of notepad. Is that controlling? Maybe. I am a megalomaniac only in the coding, otherwise I'm very accommodating, so I'm comfortable with that.

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