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In the desktop/Win32 development I would agree. But in the web development List is making laps around any other generics type, or any other object.
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That's due to poor developer skills, not because lists are superior.
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C *
C++ *
C# .
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These days "." has mutated to "=>". And not in a good way. Like it's been infected with Prolog, or F# or something.
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That's due to poor developer skills, not because lists are superior.
There is that too but is not always the case. Some Microsoft technologies/concepts are giving you no choice. EF and MVC come to mind.
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What single structure or specific operator better defines a given language? As an example, I was thinking of: C * C++ - vector C# - List Java - arrays Any other languages or thoughts?
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vectorfor C++ just isn't the right choice, and indicates you are using C++ like C.virtualandtemplateare both far better choices. Depending upon how you use the language, both of them can be supported with valid arguments, so I don't think either of them can be realistically picked over the other. If you don't understandvirtual, see the C++ tutorial in my sig. If you don't understandtemplate, just see any of honey the codewitch's work. C++ becomes magic.Our Forgotten Astronomy | Object Oriented Programming with C++ | Wordle solver
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There is that too but is not always the case. Some Microsoft technologies/concepts are giving you no choice. EF and MVC come to mind.
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Which just adds strength to my statement.
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What single structure or specific operator better defines a given language? As an example, I was thinking of: C * C++ - vector C# - List Java - arrays Any other languages or thoughts?
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My favorite .NET data structure is
Dictionary<_T_>hands down. I always found the C++ equivalents (STL'smapand MFC'sCMap) somewhat klunkier, mostly because of the template usage and resultant inscrutable compiler diagnostics.Software Zen:
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vectorfor C++ just isn't the right choice, and indicates you are using C++ like C.virtualandtemplateare both far better choices. Depending upon how you use the language, both of them can be supported with valid arguments, so I don't think either of them can be realistically picked over the other. If you don't understandvirtual, see the C++ tutorial in my sig. If you don't understandtemplate, just see any of honey the codewitch's work. C++ becomes magic.Our Forgotten Astronomy | Object Oriented Programming with C++ | Wordle solver
I wouldn't associate C++ with "virtual". Sure, it's a big part of the language concept, but not defines it. "Virtual" better fits with Java where everything is "virtual" by default. As for the templates, even C++ doesn't fully understand templates - at least until runtime. :) If you don't understand what I mean, think of separate template implementation and declaration. I know it's doable, but it doesn't feel natural.
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C *
C++ *
C# .
Java a large mug and lots of sugarEdit
BASIC LET
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My favorite .NET data structure is
Dictionary<_T_>hands down. I always found the C++ equivalents (STL'smapand MFC'sCMap) somewhat klunkier, mostly because of the template usage and resultant inscrutable compiler diagnostics.Software Zen:
delete this;Yes, Dictionary is verry powerful when you search by key as it gives you O (log N) search, no duplications, ets. But if we go this path then DataTable is even more interesting. I also don't like how you can shoot yourself in the leg with the STL map. One assignment with missing reference operator and you are working with old data/copy.
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I wouldn't associate C++ with "virtual". Sure, it's a big part of the language concept, but not defines it. "Virtual" better fits with Java where everything is "virtual" by default. As for the templates, even C++ doesn't fully understand templates - at least until runtime. :) If you don't understand what I mean, think of separate template implementation and declaration. I know it's doable, but it doesn't feel natural.
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So the word you are looking for is
class. Notvector. :doh:Our Forgotten Astronomy | Object Oriented Programming with C++ | Wordle solver
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No generics in v1. System.String is dreadful, the unavoidability of immutability is a very short-sighted (ivory tower) idea. They had to include StringBuilder just to make things work. It would be better for strings to be mutable by default and then be able to set them as immutable later as needed --
mystring.AsReadOnly()ormystring.ReadOnly = trueBleah, ptui. :mad:And no vector in C++ V1 either ... languages improve! :laugh: But string isn't too bad - it's not perfect, but it is way, way better than the char* / const char * mess that preceded it.
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So the word you are looking for is
class. Notvector. :doh:Our Forgotten Astronomy | Object Oriented Programming with C++ | Wordle solver
Again, not verry C++ specific. Same for structures.
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Again, not verry C++ specific. Same for structures.
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What single structure or specific operator better defines a given language?
That was your question.
template,virtual, andclassare all better answers thanvector. In fact,vectoris an idiotic answer to that specific question. Especially sincevectorisn't a structure or operator. :doh: :doh: :doh: Of course, neither are the items I've given, but they do define the language.Our Forgotten Astronomy | Object Oriented Programming with C++ | Wordle solver
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What single structure or specific operator better defines a given language? As an example, I was thinking of: C * C++ - vector C# - List Java - arrays Any other languages or thoughts?
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And no vector in C++ V1 either ... languages improve! :laugh: But string isn't too bad - it's not perfect, but it is way, way better than the char* / const char * mess that preceded it.
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OriginalGriff wrote:
languages improve
Then it's not the same language.
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Yes, Dictionary is verry powerful when you search by key as it gives you O (log N) search, no duplications, ets. But if we go this path then DataTable is even more interesting. I also don't like how you can shoot yourself in the leg with the STL map. One assignment with missing reference operator and you are working with old data/copy.
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Python: a tab and three spaces just to annoy people.
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How big is the tab? Like a bar tab?
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My favorite .NET data structure is
Dictionary<_T_>hands down. I always found the C++ equivalents (STL'smapand MFC'sCMap) somewhat klunkier, mostly because of the template usage and resultant inscrutable compiler diagnostics.Software Zen:
delete this;enums are also way better in .net languages. -
What single structure or specific operator better defines a given language? As an example, I was thinking of: C * C++ - vector C# - List Java - arrays Any other languages or thoughts?
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Javascript - "undefined". :-)
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What single structure or specific operator better defines a given language? As an example, I was thinking of: C * C++ - vector C# - List Java - arrays Any other languages or thoughts?
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C++ for me would be
templateI don't really use the STL that much due to working with tiny amounts of RAM.To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
