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    I'm getting a new (first!) employee in two weeks. While this is a joyous occasion, having to install his laptop is not. First of all, I am required to sign in using a private Microsoft account, so a live or outlook email account. Nice way to start someone else's business laptop. So I do this, hoping (but knowing better) I can change this later. After signing in, a user folder is created with the first five letters of your first name, so in my case "sande". That's a default no one with a name longer than five letters would ever want, but alright. I can probably change that too. Right? RIGHT!? Hell no. I can switch to a local account, but the user folder is still "sande", my OneDrive is still signed in and the profile picture is still mine. The OneDrive and user picture are easy enough, although signing out of OneDrive still leaves personal files on the laptop. Changing the user folder name requires some hacking and some registry editing. Long story short, I'm currently doing a system restore and it's hanging at 62% :|

    Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

      I'm getting a new (first!) employee in two weeks. While this is a joyous occasion, having to install his laptop is not. First of all, I am required to sign in using a private Microsoft account, so a live or outlook email account. Nice way to start someone else's business laptop. So I do this, hoping (but knowing better) I can change this later. After signing in, a user folder is created with the first five letters of your first name, so in my case "sande". That's a default no one with a name longer than five letters would ever want, but alright. I can probably change that too. Right? RIGHT!? Hell no. I can switch to a local account, but the user folder is still "sande", my OneDrive is still signed in and the profile picture is still mine. The OneDrive and user picture are easy enough, although signing out of OneDrive still leaves personal files on the laptop. Changing the user folder name requires some hacking and some registry editing. Long story short, I'm currently doing a system restore and it's hanging at 62% :|

      Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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      Sander Rossel wrote:

      Long story short, I'm currently doing a system restore and it's hanging at 62% :|

      Better a format and install linux and a VirtualBox with windows 10 ;) :-D

      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

        I'm getting a new (first!) employee in two weeks. While this is a joyous occasion, having to install his laptop is not. First of all, I am required to sign in using a private Microsoft account, so a live or outlook email account. Nice way to start someone else's business laptop. So I do this, hoping (but knowing better) I can change this later. After signing in, a user folder is created with the first five letters of your first name, so in my case "sande". That's a default no one with a name longer than five letters would ever want, but alright. I can probably change that too. Right? RIGHT!? Hell no. I can switch to a local account, but the user folder is still "sande", my OneDrive is still signed in and the profile picture is still mine. The OneDrive and user picture are easy enough, although signing out of OneDrive still leaves personal files on the laptop. Changing the user folder name requires some hacking and some registry editing. Long story short, I'm currently doing a system restore and it's hanging at 62% :|

        Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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        I plan on using this when I will eventually install W11: Windows 11 Superlite: No Bloatware and Telemetry - YouTube[^] Of course there is the danger of using a custom made image from the Internet so make your own judgement. There is also the way to skip login during install: Don't give Microsoft what they want... - YouTube[^]. Hope that helps-

        GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* ย ย ย ย  Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

          I'm getting a new (first!) employee in two weeks. While this is a joyous occasion, having to install his laptop is not. First of all, I am required to sign in using a private Microsoft account, so a live or outlook email account. Nice way to start someone else's business laptop. So I do this, hoping (but knowing better) I can change this later. After signing in, a user folder is created with the first five letters of your first name, so in my case "sande". That's a default no one with a name longer than five letters would ever want, but alright. I can probably change that too. Right? RIGHT!? Hell no. I can switch to a local account, but the user folder is still "sande", my OneDrive is still signed in and the profile picture is still mine. The OneDrive and user picture are easy enough, although signing out of OneDrive still leaves personal files on the laptop. Changing the user folder name requires some hacking and some registry editing. Long story short, I'm currently doing a system restore and it's hanging at 62% :|

          Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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          Look closely - there is an option to install without any online account! I just did it a week ago... Look for 'sign-in options' (but maybe it is only for the professional edition)

          "If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." โ€• Gerald Weinberg

          "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." โ€• Brian Cox

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          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

            I'm getting a new (first!) employee in two weeks. While this is a joyous occasion, having to install his laptop is not. First of all, I am required to sign in using a private Microsoft account, so a live or outlook email account. Nice way to start someone else's business laptop. So I do this, hoping (but knowing better) I can change this later. After signing in, a user folder is created with the first five letters of your first name, so in my case "sande". That's a default no one with a name longer than five letters would ever want, but alright. I can probably change that too. Right? RIGHT!? Hell no. I can switch to a local account, but the user folder is still "sande", my OneDrive is still signed in and the profile picture is still mine. The OneDrive and user picture are easy enough, although signing out of OneDrive still leaves personal files on the laptop. Changing the user folder name requires some hacking and some registry editing. Long story short, I'm currently doing a system restore and it's hanging at 62% :|

            Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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            Does this help?

            "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

            "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

            "You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles

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            • D David Crow

              Does this help?

              "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

              "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

              "You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles

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              MS has said they were going to remove the ability to do that from everything except the enterprise/education versions. If they've followed through...

              Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius

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                I plan on using this when I will eventually install W11: Windows 11 Superlite: No Bloatware and Telemetry - YouTube[^] Of course there is the danger of using a custom made image from the Internet so make your own judgement. There is also the way to skip login during install: Don't give Microsoft what they want... - YouTube[^]. Hope that helps-

                GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* ย ย ย ย  Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                den2k88 wrote:

                Don't give Microsoft what they want... - YouTube[^].

                Give this guy a medal! It worked with the oobe\bypassnro :thumbsup: Also, sue Microsoft for malicious malpractices! :mad:

                Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                  Look closely - there is an option to install without any online account! I just did it a week ago... Look for 'sign-in options' (but maybe it is only for the professional edition)

                  "If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." โ€• Gerald Weinberg

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                  Sander Rossel
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                  Yeah, wasn't there. It ultimately worked with den2k88's method.

                  Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                  • D David Crow

                    Does this help?

                    "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

                    "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

                    "You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles

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                    Sander Rossel
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                    Nope, it ultimately worked with den2k88's method (oobe\bypassnro).

                    Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                      I'm getting a new (first!) employee in two weeks. While this is a joyous occasion, having to install his laptop is not. First of all, I am required to sign in using a private Microsoft account, so a live or outlook email account. Nice way to start someone else's business laptop. So I do this, hoping (but knowing better) I can change this later. After signing in, a user folder is created with the first five letters of your first name, so in my case "sande". That's a default no one with a name longer than five letters would ever want, but alright. I can probably change that too. Right? RIGHT!? Hell no. I can switch to a local account, but the user folder is still "sande", my OneDrive is still signed in and the profile picture is still mine. The OneDrive and user picture are easy enough, although signing out of OneDrive still leaves personal files on the laptop. Changing the user folder name requires some hacking and some registry editing. Long story short, I'm currently doing a system restore and it's hanging at 62% :|

                      Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                      Use Rufus to flash the installation media next time. It has an option to remove that pointless requirement [USB installer tool removes Windows 11โ€™s Microsoft account requirements (and more) | Ars Technica](https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/06/usb-installer-tool-removes-windows-11s-microsoft-account-requirements-and-more/)

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                      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                        I'm getting a new (first!) employee in two weeks. While this is a joyous occasion, having to install his laptop is not. First of all, I am required to sign in using a private Microsoft account, so a live or outlook email account. Nice way to start someone else's business laptop. So I do this, hoping (but knowing better) I can change this later. After signing in, a user folder is created with the first five letters of your first name, so in my case "sande". That's a default no one with a name longer than five letters would ever want, but alright. I can probably change that too. Right? RIGHT!? Hell no. I can switch to a local account, but the user folder is still "sande", my OneDrive is still signed in and the profile picture is still mine. The OneDrive and user picture are easy enough, although signing out of OneDrive still leaves personal files on the laptop. Changing the user folder name requires some hacking and some registry editing. Long story short, I'm currently doing a system restore and it's hanging at 62% :|

                        Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                        Your first comment about having to sign into a Microsoft Account is inaccurate. The way to avoid this is to tell the setup program you're joining a domain. Then, while the setup program continues to nag you for a Microsoft account, you create a local user account. This user account is a full Administrator on the machine.

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                          Your first comment about having to sign into a Microsoft Account is inaccurate. The way to avoid this is to tell the setup program you're joining a domain. Then, while the setup program continues to nag you for a Microsoft account, you create a local user account. This user account is a full Administrator on the machine.

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                          I'm guessing your comment is inaccurate because it never asked that. Probably because this computer comes preinstalled with Windows 11 Home edition and I'm only upgrading it to Pro after being logged in.

                          Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                            den2k88 wrote:

                            Don't give Microsoft what they want... - YouTube[^].

                            Give this guy a medal! It worked with the oobe\bypassnro :thumbsup: Also, sue Microsoft for malicious malpractices! :mad:

                            Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                            Jayz has clickbaity titles and targets people richer than me, but so far his advices have been spot-on.

                            GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* ย ย ย ย  Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                              I'm getting a new (first!) employee in two weeks. While this is a joyous occasion, having to install his laptop is not. First of all, I am required to sign in using a private Microsoft account, so a live or outlook email account. Nice way to start someone else's business laptop. So I do this, hoping (but knowing better) I can change this later. After signing in, a user folder is created with the first five letters of your first name, so in my case "sande". That's a default no one with a name longer than five letters would ever want, but alright. I can probably change that too. Right? RIGHT!? Hell no. I can switch to a local account, but the user folder is still "sande", my OneDrive is still signed in and the profile picture is still mine. The OneDrive and user picture are easy enough, although signing out of OneDrive still leaves personal files on the laptop. Changing the user folder name requires some hacking and some registry editing. Long story short, I'm currently doing a system restore and it's hanging at 62% :|

                              Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                              snorkie
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                              I had a similar experience for my personal laptop. I want this laptop to just open and be in Windows without any authentication. It took some work to make that happen. Its like they want it harder to use. And don't get me started about the new start bar. Removing the "Never Combine" and making it only take 10% of usable space for open applications is a mess. (Dangit, I got started)

                              Hogan

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                              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                I'm getting a new (first!) employee in two weeks. While this is a joyous occasion, having to install his laptop is not. First of all, I am required to sign in using a private Microsoft account, so a live or outlook email account. Nice way to start someone else's business laptop. So I do this, hoping (but knowing better) I can change this later. After signing in, a user folder is created with the first five letters of your first name, so in my case "sande". That's a default no one with a name longer than five letters would ever want, but alright. I can probably change that too. Right? RIGHT!? Hell no. I can switch to a local account, but the user folder is still "sande", my OneDrive is still signed in and the profile picture is still mine. The OneDrive and user picture are easy enough, although signing out of OneDrive still leaves personal files on the laptop. Changing the user folder name requires some hacking and some registry editing. Long story short, I'm currently doing a system restore and it's hanging at 62% :|

                                Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                                theoldfool
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                                I just disconnect from Internet, it will just have you create a local account.

                                >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

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                                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                  I'm getting a new (first!) employee in two weeks. While this is a joyous occasion, having to install his laptop is not. First of all, I am required to sign in using a private Microsoft account, so a live or outlook email account. Nice way to start someone else's business laptop. So I do this, hoping (but knowing better) I can change this later. After signing in, a user folder is created with the first five letters of your first name, so in my case "sande". That's a default no one with a name longer than five letters would ever want, but alright. I can probably change that too. Right? RIGHT!? Hell no. I can switch to a local account, but the user folder is still "sande", my OneDrive is still signed in and the profile picture is still mine. The OneDrive and user picture are easy enough, although signing out of OneDrive still leaves personal files on the laptop. Changing the user folder name requires some hacking and some registry editing. Long story short, I'm currently doing a system restore and it's hanging at 62% :|

                                  Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                                  Jeremy Falcon
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                                  Sander Rossel wrote:

                                  First of all, I am required to sign in using a private Microsoft account, so a live or outlook email account.

                                  You can get around that. There are a few YT videos floating around to show you how. It's a total pain, but at least it's possible.

                                  Jeremyย Falcon

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                                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                    I'm guessing your comment is inaccurate because it never asked that. Probably because this computer comes preinstalled with Windows 11 Home edition and I'm only upgrading it to Pro after being logged in.

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                                    I wouldn't upgrade it. If you have the Pro license information reimage the machine straight to Pro. Windows Home has sucked since Vista.

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                                    • T theoldfool

                                      I just disconnect from Internet, it will just have you create a local account.

                                      >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

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                                      Nelek
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                                      I have done that since the first install of windows 10. Luckily I haven't had to check if it works in windows 11 (yet) :-D

                                      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                      • S snorkie

                                        I had a similar experience for my personal laptop. I want this laptop to just open and be in Windows without any authentication. It took some work to make that happen. Its like they want it harder to use. And don't get me started about the new start bar. Removing the "Never Combine" and making it only take 10% of usable space for open applications is a mess. (Dangit, I got started)

                                        Hogan

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                                        I'm using Release 22621.1413.54.5 ยท valinet/ExplorerPatcher ยท GitHub[^] Works wonderfully well and at least the taskbar now looks the same as it always did. The start menu, unfortunately, is still crap though.

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                                        • T theoldfool

                                          I just disconnect from Internet, it will just have you create a local account.

                                          >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

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                                          Not possible, it seems you simply can't setup Windows without internet. Maybe if I'd be somewhere in the middle of nowhere and Windows couldn't even find a WiFi... :~ I used den2k88's solution, where you have to use some cmd line and after that it restarts and you can skip connecting to internet.

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