Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Code Project
  1. Home
  2. The Lounge
  3. A Walk Through Hades

A Walk Through Hades

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved The Lounge
workspacehelp
62 Posts 17 Posters 2 Views 1 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • R Offline
    R Offline
    Roger Wright
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    Well, my new PC sure looks pretty, but it doesn't do anything. I've tried about 67 times to install Windows 11 and nothing works. It took a while to work out the compatibility issues, but the BIOS configuration was right a few days ago. Now it will boot into the Win11 Setup program, but it won't get past the point where it's at the 4 - 5% spot of "Preparing files for installation." It crashes with the error: "0x80070570" which happens to mean anything Microsoft wants it to mean. I thought it might be a defective DVD media, but after more than 20 attempts to get that to work, I tried the download approach to make a bootable USB Drive. That causes the same error, at the same point in the setup process. I'm at wit's end with this POS. I've assembled a lot of PC's in the past 30 years, for myself and for others. I've never experienced a single glitch, as everything has always gone perfectly smoothly. But I've never used an ASUS motherboard. I will never do so again.

    Will Rogers never met me.

    OriginalGriffO G T L Richard Andrew x64R 9 Replies Last reply
    0
    • R Roger Wright

      Well, my new PC sure looks pretty, but it doesn't do anything. I've tried about 67 times to install Windows 11 and nothing works. It took a while to work out the compatibility issues, but the BIOS configuration was right a few days ago. Now it will boot into the Win11 Setup program, but it won't get past the point where it's at the 4 - 5% spot of "Preparing files for installation." It crashes with the error: "0x80070570" which happens to mean anything Microsoft wants it to mean. I thought it might be a defective DVD media, but after more than 20 attempts to get that to work, I tried the download approach to make a bootable USB Drive. That causes the same error, at the same point in the setup process. I'm at wit's end with this POS. I've assembled a lot of PC's in the past 30 years, for myself and for others. I've never experienced a single glitch, as everything has always gone perfectly smoothly. But I've never used an ASUS motherboard. I will never do so again.

      Will Rogers never met me.

      OriginalGriffO Offline
      OriginalGriffO Offline
      OriginalGriff
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      Have you tried this? SetupDiag - Windows Deployment | Microsoft Learn[^] I haven't, but it might help diagnose. After that, you are down to MS Tech Support I guess. They were pretty good last time I needed them.

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

      R 1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • R Roger Wright

        Well, my new PC sure looks pretty, but it doesn't do anything. I've tried about 67 times to install Windows 11 and nothing works. It took a while to work out the compatibility issues, but the BIOS configuration was right a few days ago. Now it will boot into the Win11 Setup program, but it won't get past the point where it's at the 4 - 5% spot of "Preparing files for installation." It crashes with the error: "0x80070570" which happens to mean anything Microsoft wants it to mean. I thought it might be a defective DVD media, but after more than 20 attempts to get that to work, I tried the download approach to make a bootable USB Drive. That causes the same error, at the same point in the setup process. I'm at wit's end with this POS. I've assembled a lot of PC's in the past 30 years, for myself and for others. I've never experienced a single glitch, as everything has always gone perfectly smoothly. But I've never used an ASUS motherboard. I will never do so again.

        Will Rogers never met me.

        G Offline
        G Offline
        glennPattonWork3
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        I feel for you I really do. It's the old thing "I have done this a thousand times, what am I getting wrong, its the industry satandard". This week I have been playing with a Servo motor trying to build it to a test platform for a subassembly. Monday to Wednesday nothing wouldn't start reliably and did a full 380 turn, Thursday and ultra sound machine failed all hand on deck to fix it. Friday back to Servo check the data-sheet for thousand time, notice three gramatical errors and two spelling mistakes, think 'might as well' swap over the data out and data in lines dang thing starts working. Do the :jig:and :beer:.

        R 1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • R Roger Wright

          Well, my new PC sure looks pretty, but it doesn't do anything. I've tried about 67 times to install Windows 11 and nothing works. It took a while to work out the compatibility issues, but the BIOS configuration was right a few days ago. Now it will boot into the Win11 Setup program, but it won't get past the point where it's at the 4 - 5% spot of "Preparing files for installation." It crashes with the error: "0x80070570" which happens to mean anything Microsoft wants it to mean. I thought it might be a defective DVD media, but after more than 20 attempts to get that to work, I tried the download approach to make a bootable USB Drive. That causes the same error, at the same point in the setup process. I'm at wit's end with this POS. I've assembled a lot of PC's in the past 30 years, for myself and for others. I've never experienced a single glitch, as everything has always gone perfectly smoothly. But I've never used an ASUS motherboard. I will never do so again.

          Will Rogers never met me.

          T Offline
          T Offline
          theoldfool
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          I suggest booting a Linux live CD/USB stick and doing some analysis on the hardware.

          >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

          R 1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • T theoldfool

            I suggest booting a Linux live CD/USB stick and doing some analysis on the hardware.

            >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

            R Offline
            R Offline
            Roger Wright
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            Not a bad idea! Coincidentally, I just downloaded an Ubuntu distro and have been toying with installing it on one or the other of my machines.

            Will Rogers never met me.

            T 1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • G glennPattonWork3

              I feel for you I really do. It's the old thing "I have done this a thousand times, what am I getting wrong, its the industry satandard". This week I have been playing with a Servo motor trying to build it to a test platform for a subassembly. Monday to Wednesday nothing wouldn't start reliably and did a full 380 turn, Thursday and ultra sound machine failed all hand on deck to fix it. Friday back to Servo check the data-sheet for thousand time, notice three gramatical errors and two spelling mistakes, think 'might as well' swap over the data out and data in lines dang thing starts working. Do the :jig:and :beer:.

              R Offline
              R Offline
              Roger Wright
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              Dancing and drinking is definitely on my agenda - thanks for the tip. I'm walking away from this nightmare for the weekend and will deal with it another day.

              Will Rogers never met me.

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                Have you tried this? SetupDiag - Windows Deployment | Microsoft Learn[^] I haven't, but it might help diagnose. After that, you are down to MS Tech Support I guess. They were pretty good last time I needed them.

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                R Offline
                R Offline
                Roger Wright
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                The last time I was able to get through to Microsoft Support, it was because I couldn't get disk 13 of 13 for Windows 95 to finish loading. Three hours later the tech agreed to send me a replacement. Last night I managed to get through to them, but their server failure routed me to the Office support desk. He was very kind and helpful, but out of his depth, so he sent me instructions on how to initiate a chat next week. I had to laugh; if it ain't broke, it ain't Microsoft. Even their internal systems don't work.

                Will Rogers never met me.

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • R Roger Wright

                  Well, my new PC sure looks pretty, but it doesn't do anything. I've tried about 67 times to install Windows 11 and nothing works. It took a while to work out the compatibility issues, but the BIOS configuration was right a few days ago. Now it will boot into the Win11 Setup program, but it won't get past the point where it's at the 4 - 5% spot of "Preparing files for installation." It crashes with the error: "0x80070570" which happens to mean anything Microsoft wants it to mean. I thought it might be a defective DVD media, but after more than 20 attempts to get that to work, I tried the download approach to make a bootable USB Drive. That causes the same error, at the same point in the setup process. I'm at wit's end with this POS. I've assembled a lot of PC's in the past 30 years, for myself and for others. I've never experienced a single glitch, as everything has always gone perfectly smoothly. But I've never used an ASUS motherboard. I will never do so again.

                  Will Rogers never met me.

                  L Offline
                  L Offline
                  Lost User
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  I would never buy a new PC, expecting to "upgrade" the OS on it. I would only buy with the desired OS "pre-installed". Unless I was building from scratch.

                  "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

                  R 1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • L Lost User

                    I would never buy a new PC, expecting to "upgrade" the OS on it. I would only buy with the desired OS "pre-installed". Unless I was building from scratch.

                    "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

                    R Offline
                    R Offline
                    Roger Wright
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    Since I've never bought a prebuilt PC since 1994, that's exactly what I'm doing - build from scratch.

                    Will Rogers never met me.

                    L 1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • R Roger Wright

                      Well, my new PC sure looks pretty, but it doesn't do anything. I've tried about 67 times to install Windows 11 and nothing works. It took a while to work out the compatibility issues, but the BIOS configuration was right a few days ago. Now it will boot into the Win11 Setup program, but it won't get past the point where it's at the 4 - 5% spot of "Preparing files for installation." It crashes with the error: "0x80070570" which happens to mean anything Microsoft wants it to mean. I thought it might be a defective DVD media, but after more than 20 attempts to get that to work, I tried the download approach to make a bootable USB Drive. That causes the same error, at the same point in the setup process. I'm at wit's end with this POS. I've assembled a lot of PC's in the past 30 years, for myself and for others. I've never experienced a single glitch, as everything has always gone perfectly smoothly. But I've never used an ASUS motherboard. I will never do so again.

                      Will Rogers never met me.

                      Richard Andrew x64R Offline
                      Richard Andrew x64R Offline
                      Richard Andrew x64
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      Have you considered that you might have a bad memory module? Did you make certain that the RAM you installed is on the compatibility list of the motherboard? I have always used Asus motherboards with great success.

                      The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

                      R 1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • R Roger Wright

                        Not a bad idea! Coincidentally, I just downloaded an Ubuntu distro and have been toying with installing it on one or the other of my machines.

                        Will Rogers never met me.

                        T Offline
                        T Offline
                        theoldfool
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        Might be able to mount the Windows drive (if it got that far) and access the installer logs.

                        >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

                        R 1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • R Roger Wright

                          Well, my new PC sure looks pretty, but it doesn't do anything. I've tried about 67 times to install Windows 11 and nothing works. It took a while to work out the compatibility issues, but the BIOS configuration was right a few days ago. Now it will boot into the Win11 Setup program, but it won't get past the point where it's at the 4 - 5% spot of "Preparing files for installation." It crashes with the error: "0x80070570" which happens to mean anything Microsoft wants it to mean. I thought it might be a defective DVD media, but after more than 20 attempts to get that to work, I tried the download approach to make a bootable USB Drive. That causes the same error, at the same point in the setup process. I'm at wit's end with this POS. I've assembled a lot of PC's in the past 30 years, for myself and for others. I've never experienced a single glitch, as everything has always gone perfectly smoothly. But I've never used an ASUS motherboard. I will never do so again.

                          Will Rogers never met me.

                          J Offline
                          J Offline
                          Jeremy Falcon
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #12

                          Roger Wright wrote:

                          I've assembled a lot of PC's in the past 30 years, for myself and for others. I've never experienced a single glitch, as everything has always gone perfectly smoothly.

                          It's probably the RAM, everything else is cookie-cutter. Motherboards come with a _lot_ of optimizations these days in the areas of CPU, GPU, and RAM. Assuming you're supplying enough power to all the parts or you're not overheating... Here's what you need to do: * Go get a BIOS update on a USB stick from another computer. Update your BIOS to fix any bugs, etc. since the motherboard was released. * Then go into your BIOS and disable *ALL* optimizations - especially for your RAM. * Now, install windows. Go through the Windows update process, etc. * Then and only then, turn back on those optimizations one-by-one to see if you still have a problem.

                          Roger Wright wrote:

                          But I've never used an ASUS motherboard. I will never do so again.

                          ASUS sucks now. They used to be awesome. Times change.

                          Jeremy Falcon

                          Richard Andrew x64R H J 3 Replies Last reply
                          0
                          • J Jeremy Falcon

                            Roger Wright wrote:

                            I've assembled a lot of PC's in the past 30 years, for myself and for others. I've never experienced a single glitch, as everything has always gone perfectly smoothly.

                            It's probably the RAM, everything else is cookie-cutter. Motherboards come with a _lot_ of optimizations these days in the areas of CPU, GPU, and RAM. Assuming you're supplying enough power to all the parts or you're not overheating... Here's what you need to do: * Go get a BIOS update on a USB stick from another computer. Update your BIOS to fix any bugs, etc. since the motherboard was released. * Then go into your BIOS and disable *ALL* optimizations - especially for your RAM. * Now, install windows. Go through the Windows update process, etc. * Then and only then, turn back on those optimizations one-by-one to see if you still have a problem.

                            Roger Wright wrote:

                            But I've never used an ASUS motherboard. I will never do so again.

                            ASUS sucks now. They used to be awesome. Times change.

                            Jeremy Falcon

                            Richard Andrew x64R Offline
                            Richard Andrew x64R Offline
                            Richard Andrew x64
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                            ASUS sucks now. They used to be awesome. Times change

                            This is the first I've heard of this. Is it the quality control? The components they use? What sucks about them? I've always had good luck with them.

                            The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

                            J 1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                              Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                              ASUS sucks now. They used to be awesome. Times change

                              This is the first I've heard of this. Is it the quality control? The components they use? What sucks about them? I've always had good luck with them.

                              The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

                              J Offline
                              J Offline
                              Jeremy Falcon
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              Richard Andrew x64 wrote:

                              This is the first I've heard of this. Is it the quality control? The components they use? What sucks about them? I've always had good luck with them.

                              I haven't built a PC myself lately, so I haven't personally bought an ASUS motherboard recently. But, I'm going off this video[^] which talks about overvoltage in a beta feature treated as production ready that also voids your warranty if you use the fix for it... despite it being a fix for something that shouldn't be sent to the consumer in the first place as it wasn't fully tested.

                              Jeremy Falcon

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • R Roger Wright

                                Well, my new PC sure looks pretty, but it doesn't do anything. I've tried about 67 times to install Windows 11 and nothing works. It took a while to work out the compatibility issues, but the BIOS configuration was right a few days ago. Now it will boot into the Win11 Setup program, but it won't get past the point where it's at the 4 - 5% spot of "Preparing files for installation." It crashes with the error: "0x80070570" which happens to mean anything Microsoft wants it to mean. I thought it might be a defective DVD media, but after more than 20 attempts to get that to work, I tried the download approach to make a bootable USB Drive. That causes the same error, at the same point in the setup process. I'm at wit's end with this POS. I've assembled a lot of PC's in the past 30 years, for myself and for others. I've never experienced a single glitch, as everything has always gone perfectly smoothly. But I've never used an ASUS motherboard. I will never do so again.

                                Will Rogers never met me.

                                H Offline
                                H Offline
                                honey the codewitch
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #15

                                I've always and only bought ASUS motherboards because they are known reliable, with a catch. Always update the bios before you do anything. I had to for it to even recognize my CPU last time - using flashback because i couldn't get to setup without a CPU. That might be your issue. ASUS boards are rock solid. If it's not a bad bios, that is probably not your issue. Could be your NVMe. Could be your RAM.

                                Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch/gfx

                                R 1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • J Jeremy Falcon

                                  Roger Wright wrote:

                                  I've assembled a lot of PC's in the past 30 years, for myself and for others. I've never experienced a single glitch, as everything has always gone perfectly smoothly.

                                  It's probably the RAM, everything else is cookie-cutter. Motherboards come with a _lot_ of optimizations these days in the areas of CPU, GPU, and RAM. Assuming you're supplying enough power to all the parts or you're not overheating... Here's what you need to do: * Go get a BIOS update on a USB stick from another computer. Update your BIOS to fix any bugs, etc. since the motherboard was released. * Then go into your BIOS and disable *ALL* optimizations - especially for your RAM. * Now, install windows. Go through the Windows update process, etc. * Then and only then, turn back on those optimizations one-by-one to see if you still have a problem.

                                  Roger Wright wrote:

                                  But I've never used an ASUS motherboard. I will never do so again.

                                  ASUS sucks now. They used to be awesome. Times change.

                                  Jeremy Falcon

                                  H Offline
                                  H Offline
                                  honey the codewitch
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #16

                                  I don't agree with your assessment of their boards. I've had continuously good luck with their ROG and TUF lines, even now. My current board is an ASUS ROG Strix. My last Board was a TUF. I only buy ASUS boards. Don't know what you've found with them, but other than one misstep with a backward cap on some batches of one of their boards in the ROG line at one point, they've been solid - and every company screws up once in awhile.

                                  Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch/gfx

                                  J 1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • T theoldfool

                                    Might be able to mount the Windows drive (if it got that far) and access the installer logs.

                                    >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

                                    R Offline
                                    R Offline
                                    Roger Wright
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #17

                                    Nope. There is no Windows drive. It stops at 4% Preparing Files - it never does anything to the drive.

                                    Will Rogers never met me.

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    • H honey the codewitch

                                      I don't agree with your assessment of their boards. I've had continuously good luck with their ROG and TUF lines, even now. My current board is an ASUS ROG Strix. My last Board was a TUF. I only buy ASUS boards. Don't know what you've found with them, but other than one misstep with a backward cap on some batches of one of their boards in the ROG line at one point, they've been solid - and every company screws up once in awhile.

                                      Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch/gfx

                                      J Offline
                                      J Offline
                                      Jeremy Falcon
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #18

                                      We've already established a discussion with you has a 99.9% probability of being an argument. I would expect you'd not agree. I wouldn't expect a reply however.

                                      Jeremy Falcon

                                      H 1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                                        Have you considered that you might have a bad memory module? Did you make certain that the RAM you installed is on the compatibility list of the motherboard? I have always used Asus motherboards with great success.

                                        The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

                                        R Offline
                                        R Offline
                                        Roger Wright
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #19

                                        It's possible, Richard, but I've no reliable way to test it. The motherboard BIOS setup includes MEMTEST86, but the results are inconclusive. It bails out and fails while running, but the summary results say PASS: 100%. Go figure. There are other memory test utilities out there, but they all assume an operating system is there to execute them. I do have a fresh copy of Ubuntu that I can try, I guess.

                                        Will Rogers never met me.

                                        Richard Andrew x64R N P J 4 Replies Last reply
                                        0
                                        • R Roger Wright

                                          It's possible, Richard, but I've no reliable way to test it. The motherboard BIOS setup includes MEMTEST86, but the results are inconclusive. It bails out and fails while running, but the summary results say PASS: 100%. Go figure. There are other memory test utilities out there, but they all assume an operating system is there to execute them. I do have a fresh copy of Ubuntu that I can try, I guess.

                                          Will Rogers never met me.

                                          Richard Andrew x64R Offline
                                          Richard Andrew x64R Offline
                                          Richard Andrew x64
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #20

                                          Yes, the Ubuntu sounds like a very good thing to try. I had the same problem with a machine that I built in 2015. It wouldn't load Windows and the problem turned out to be the RAM was not compatible with the motherboard. That's something very important to be aware of.

                                          The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

                                          R 1 Reply Last reply
                                          0
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Tags
                                          • Popular
                                          • World
                                          • Users
                                          • Groups