A Walk Through Hades
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I would never buy a new PC, expecting to "upgrade" the OS on it. I would only buy with the desired OS "pre-installed". Unless I was building from scratch.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
Since I've never bought a prebuilt PC since 1994, that's exactly what I'm doing - build from scratch.
Will Rogers never met me.
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Well, my new PC sure looks pretty, but it doesn't do anything. I've tried about 67 times to install Windows 11 and nothing works. It took a while to work out the compatibility issues, but the BIOS configuration was right a few days ago. Now it will boot into the Win11 Setup program, but it won't get past the point where it's at the 4 - 5% spot of "Preparing files for installation." It crashes with the error: "0x80070570" which happens to mean anything Microsoft wants it to mean. I thought it might be a defective DVD media, but after more than 20 attempts to get that to work, I tried the download approach to make a bootable USB Drive. That causes the same error, at the same point in the setup process. I'm at wit's end with this POS. I've assembled a lot of PC's in the past 30 years, for myself and for others. I've never experienced a single glitch, as everything has always gone perfectly smoothly. But I've never used an ASUS motherboard. I will never do so again.
Will Rogers never met me.
Have you considered that you might have a bad memory module? Did you make certain that the RAM you installed is on the compatibility list of the motherboard? I have always used Asus motherboards with great success.
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Not a bad idea! Coincidentally, I just downloaded an Ubuntu distro and have been toying with installing it on one or the other of my machines.
Will Rogers never met me.
Might be able to mount the Windows drive (if it got that far) and access the installer logs.
>64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.
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Well, my new PC sure looks pretty, but it doesn't do anything. I've tried about 67 times to install Windows 11 and nothing works. It took a while to work out the compatibility issues, but the BIOS configuration was right a few days ago. Now it will boot into the Win11 Setup program, but it won't get past the point where it's at the 4 - 5% spot of "Preparing files for installation." It crashes with the error: "0x80070570" which happens to mean anything Microsoft wants it to mean. I thought it might be a defective DVD media, but after more than 20 attempts to get that to work, I tried the download approach to make a bootable USB Drive. That causes the same error, at the same point in the setup process. I'm at wit's end with this POS. I've assembled a lot of PC's in the past 30 years, for myself and for others. I've never experienced a single glitch, as everything has always gone perfectly smoothly. But I've never used an ASUS motherboard. I will never do so again.
Will Rogers never met me.
Roger Wright wrote:
I've assembled a lot of PC's in the past 30 years, for myself and for others. I've never experienced a single glitch, as everything has always gone perfectly smoothly.
It's probably the RAM, everything else is cookie-cutter. Motherboards come with a _lot_ of optimizations these days in the areas of CPU, GPU, and RAM. Assuming you're supplying enough power to all the parts or you're not overheating... Here's what you need to do: * Go get a BIOS update on a USB stick from another computer. Update your BIOS to fix any bugs, etc. since the motherboard was released. * Then go into your BIOS and disable *ALL* optimizations - especially for your RAM. * Now, install windows. Go through the Windows update process, etc. * Then and only then, turn back on those optimizations one-by-one to see if you still have a problem.
Roger Wright wrote:
But I've never used an ASUS motherboard. I will never do so again.
ASUS sucks now. They used to be awesome. Times change.
Jeremy Falcon
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Roger Wright wrote:
I've assembled a lot of PC's in the past 30 years, for myself and for others. I've never experienced a single glitch, as everything has always gone perfectly smoothly.
It's probably the RAM, everything else is cookie-cutter. Motherboards come with a _lot_ of optimizations these days in the areas of CPU, GPU, and RAM. Assuming you're supplying enough power to all the parts or you're not overheating... Here's what you need to do: * Go get a BIOS update on a USB stick from another computer. Update your BIOS to fix any bugs, etc. since the motherboard was released. * Then go into your BIOS and disable *ALL* optimizations - especially for your RAM. * Now, install windows. Go through the Windows update process, etc. * Then and only then, turn back on those optimizations one-by-one to see if you still have a problem.
Roger Wright wrote:
But I've never used an ASUS motherboard. I will never do so again.
ASUS sucks now. They used to be awesome. Times change.
Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
ASUS sucks now. They used to be awesome. Times change
This is the first I've heard of this. Is it the quality control? The components they use? What sucks about them? I've always had good luck with them.
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
ASUS sucks now. They used to be awesome. Times change
This is the first I've heard of this. Is it the quality control? The components they use? What sucks about them? I've always had good luck with them.
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
Richard Andrew x64 wrote:
This is the first I've heard of this. Is it the quality control? The components they use? What sucks about them? I've always had good luck with them.
I haven't built a PC myself lately, so I haven't personally bought an ASUS motherboard recently. But, I'm going off this video[^] which talks about overvoltage in a beta feature treated as production ready that also voids your warranty if you use the fix for it... despite it being a fix for something that shouldn't be sent to the consumer in the first place as it wasn't fully tested.
Jeremy Falcon
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Well, my new PC sure looks pretty, but it doesn't do anything. I've tried about 67 times to install Windows 11 and nothing works. It took a while to work out the compatibility issues, but the BIOS configuration was right a few days ago. Now it will boot into the Win11 Setup program, but it won't get past the point where it's at the 4 - 5% spot of "Preparing files for installation." It crashes with the error: "0x80070570" which happens to mean anything Microsoft wants it to mean. I thought it might be a defective DVD media, but after more than 20 attempts to get that to work, I tried the download approach to make a bootable USB Drive. That causes the same error, at the same point in the setup process. I'm at wit's end with this POS. I've assembled a lot of PC's in the past 30 years, for myself and for others. I've never experienced a single glitch, as everything has always gone perfectly smoothly. But I've never used an ASUS motherboard. I will never do so again.
Will Rogers never met me.
I've always and only bought ASUS motherboards because they are known reliable, with a catch. Always update the bios before you do anything. I had to for it to even recognize my CPU last time - using flashback because i couldn't get to setup without a CPU. That might be your issue. ASUS boards are rock solid. If it's not a bad bios, that is probably not your issue. Could be your NVMe. Could be your RAM.
Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch/gfx
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Roger Wright wrote:
I've assembled a lot of PC's in the past 30 years, for myself and for others. I've never experienced a single glitch, as everything has always gone perfectly smoothly.
It's probably the RAM, everything else is cookie-cutter. Motherboards come with a _lot_ of optimizations these days in the areas of CPU, GPU, and RAM. Assuming you're supplying enough power to all the parts or you're not overheating... Here's what you need to do: * Go get a BIOS update on a USB stick from another computer. Update your BIOS to fix any bugs, etc. since the motherboard was released. * Then go into your BIOS and disable *ALL* optimizations - especially for your RAM. * Now, install windows. Go through the Windows update process, etc. * Then and only then, turn back on those optimizations one-by-one to see if you still have a problem.
Roger Wright wrote:
But I've never used an ASUS motherboard. I will never do so again.
ASUS sucks now. They used to be awesome. Times change.
Jeremy Falcon
I don't agree with your assessment of their boards. I've had continuously good luck with their ROG and TUF lines, even now. My current board is an ASUS ROG Strix. My last Board was a TUF. I only buy ASUS boards. Don't know what you've found with them, but other than one misstep with a backward cap on some batches of one of their boards in the ROG line at one point, they've been solid - and every company screws up once in awhile.
Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch/gfx
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Might be able to mount the Windows drive (if it got that far) and access the installer logs.
>64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.
Nope. There is no Windows drive. It stops at 4% Preparing Files - it never does anything to the drive.
Will Rogers never met me.
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Have you considered that you might have a bad memory module? Did you make certain that the RAM you installed is on the compatibility list of the motherboard? I have always used Asus motherboards with great success.
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
It's possible, Richard, but I've no reliable way to test it. The motherboard BIOS setup includes MEMTEST86, but the results are inconclusive. It bails out and fails while running, but the summary results say PASS: 100%. Go figure. There are other memory test utilities out there, but they all assume an operating system is there to execute them. I do have a fresh copy of Ubuntu that I can try, I guess.
Will Rogers never met me.
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I don't agree with your assessment of their boards. I've had continuously good luck with their ROG and TUF lines, even now. My current board is an ASUS ROG Strix. My last Board was a TUF. I only buy ASUS boards. Don't know what you've found with them, but other than one misstep with a backward cap on some batches of one of their boards in the ROG line at one point, they've been solid - and every company screws up once in awhile.
Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch/gfx
We've already established a discussion with you has a 99.9% probability of being an argument. I would expect you'd not agree. I wouldn't expect a reply however.
Jeremy Falcon
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It's possible, Richard, but I've no reliable way to test it. The motherboard BIOS setup includes MEMTEST86, but the results are inconclusive. It bails out and fails while running, but the summary results say PASS: 100%. Go figure. There are other memory test utilities out there, but they all assume an operating system is there to execute them. I do have a fresh copy of Ubuntu that I can try, I guess.
Will Rogers never met me.
Yes, the Ubuntu sounds like a very good thing to try. I had the same problem with a machine that I built in 2015. It wouldn't load Windows and the problem turned out to be the RAM was not compatible with the motherboard. That's something very important to be aware of.
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Yes, the Ubuntu sounds like a very good thing to try. I had the same problem with a machine that I built in 2015. It wouldn't load Windows and the problem turned out to be the RAM was not compatible with the motherboard. That's something very important to be aware of.
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
Curiously, I used the PC Builder system at Newegg to select components, and it supposedly checks compatibility. But then I did do all my own checking just in case.
Will Rogers never met me.
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I've always and only bought ASUS motherboards because they are known reliable, with a catch. Always update the bios before you do anything. I had to for it to even recognize my CPU last time - using flashback because i couldn't get to setup without a CPU. That might be your issue. ASUS boards are rock solid. If it's not a bad bios, that is probably not your issue. Could be your NVMe. Could be your RAM.
Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch/gfx
I'll give the BIOS update a try next week. For now, I'm taking a weekend away from this thing. I used to buy only SuperMicro boards, but they've gone to selling only server boards and complete workstations. That's a shame, because they've always been the gold standard for quality to me. I wish there was some visibility into what the setup process is doing... it would make it so much easier to diagnose things. Why does it crash at 4% - what's it doing???
Will Rogers never met me.
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We've already established a discussion with you has a 99.9% probability of being an argument. I would expect you'd not agree. I wouldn't expect a reply however.
Jeremy Falcon
If I had glanced at your username before I replied I wouldn't have expected a helpful response anyway. Have a nice day.
Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch/gfx
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Since I've never bought a prebuilt PC since 1994, that's exactly what I'm doing - build from scratch.
Will Rogers never met me.
Replace the motherboard? (My mistake: when someone says "new PC", I assume off the shelf; I just refer to my "latest creation")
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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I'll give the BIOS update a try next week. For now, I'm taking a weekend away from this thing. I used to buy only SuperMicro boards, but they've gone to selling only server boards and complete workstations. That's a shame, because they've always been the gold standard for quality to me. I wish there was some visibility into what the setup process is doing... it would make it so much easier to diagnose things. Why does it crash at 4% - what's it doing???
Will Rogers never met me.
Did your motherboard make the list? [ASUS Motherboards Ready for Windows 11](https://www.asus.com/microsite/motherboard/ASUS-motherboards-Win11-ready/)
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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Replace the motherboard? (My mistake: when someone says "new PC", I assume off the shelf; I just refer to my "latest creation")
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
That's certainly a possibility, Gerry, but not until I'm convinced that it's faulty. The odds of bad RAM are far higher than a bad MB. Oh well, it will eventually become obvious what's wrong. :-D
Will Rogers never met me.
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Did your motherboard make the list? [ASUS Motherboards Ready for Windows 11](https://www.asus.com/microsite/motherboard/ASUS-motherboards-Win11-ready/)
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
Yes. And all required features (TPM 2.0, Secure Boot, DirectX 12 support) are installed and enabled.
Will Rogers never met me.
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If I had glanced at your username before I replied I wouldn't have expected a helpful response anyway. Have a nice day.
Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch/gfx
Cool. So we established you don’t fully read the posts you reply to. Have a nice day.
Jeremy Falcon
