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  • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

    Have you considered that you might have a bad memory module? Did you make certain that the RAM you installed is on the compatibility list of the motherboard? I have always used Asus motherboards with great success.

    The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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    Roger Wright
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    It's possible, Richard, but I've no reliable way to test it. The motherboard BIOS setup includes MEMTEST86, but the results are inconclusive. It bails out and fails while running, but the summary results say PASS: 100%. Go figure. There are other memory test utilities out there, but they all assume an operating system is there to execute them. I do have a fresh copy of Ubuntu that I can try, I guess.

    Will Rogers never met me.

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      It's possible, Richard, but I've no reliable way to test it. The motherboard BIOS setup includes MEMTEST86, but the results are inconclusive. It bails out and fails while running, but the summary results say PASS: 100%. Go figure. There are other memory test utilities out there, but they all assume an operating system is there to execute them. I do have a fresh copy of Ubuntu that I can try, I guess.

      Will Rogers never met me.

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      Yes, the Ubuntu sounds like a very good thing to try. I had the same problem with a machine that I built in 2015. It wouldn't load Windows and the problem turned out to be the RAM was not compatible with the motherboard. That's something very important to be aware of.

      The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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      • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

        Yes, the Ubuntu sounds like a very good thing to try. I had the same problem with a machine that I built in 2015. It wouldn't load Windows and the problem turned out to be the RAM was not compatible with the motherboard. That's something very important to be aware of.

        The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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        Roger Wright
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        Curiously, I used the PC Builder system at Newegg to select components, and it supposedly checks compatibility. But then I did do all my own checking just in case.

        Will Rogers never met me.

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        • H honey the codewitch

          I've always and only bought ASUS motherboards because they are known reliable, with a catch. Always update the bios before you do anything. I had to for it to even recognize my CPU last time - using flashback because i couldn't get to setup without a CPU. That might be your issue. ASUS boards are rock solid. If it's not a bad bios, that is probably not your issue. Could be your NVMe. Could be your RAM.

          Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch/gfx

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          Roger Wright
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          I'll give the BIOS update a try next week. For now, I'm taking a weekend away from this thing. I used to buy only SuperMicro boards, but they've gone to selling only server boards and complete workstations. That's a shame, because they've always been the gold standard for quality to me. I wish there was some visibility into what the setup process is doing... it would make it so much easier to diagnose things. Why does it crash at 4% - what's it doing???

          Will Rogers never met me.

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          • J Jeremy Falcon

            We've already established a discussion with you has a 99.9% probability of being an argument. I would expect you'd not agree. I wouldn't expect a reply however.

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            honey the codewitch
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            If I had glanced at your username before I replied I wouldn't have expected a helpful response anyway. Have a nice day.

            Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch/gfx

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            • R Roger Wright

              Since I've never bought a prebuilt PC since 1994, that's exactly what I'm doing - build from scratch.

              Will Rogers never met me.

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              Lost User
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              Replace the motherboard? (My mistake: when someone says "new PC", I assume off the shelf; I just refer to my "latest creation")

              "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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              • R Roger Wright

                I'll give the BIOS update a try next week. For now, I'm taking a weekend away from this thing. I used to buy only SuperMicro boards, but they've gone to selling only server boards and complete workstations. That's a shame, because they've always been the gold standard for quality to me. I wish there was some visibility into what the setup process is doing... it would make it so much easier to diagnose things. Why does it crash at 4% - what's it doing???

                Will Rogers never met me.

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                Did your motherboard make the list? [ASUS Motherboards Ready for Windows 11](https://www.asus.com/microsite/motherboard/ASUS-motherboards-Win11-ready/)

                "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                  Replace the motherboard? (My mistake: when someone says "new PC", I assume off the shelf; I just refer to my "latest creation")

                  "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                  Roger Wright
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                  That's certainly a possibility, Gerry, but not until I'm convinced that it's faulty. The odds of bad RAM are far higher than a bad MB. Oh well, it will eventually become obvious what's wrong. :-D

                  Will Rogers never met me.

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                    Did your motherboard make the list? [ASUS Motherboards Ready for Windows 11](https://www.asus.com/microsite/motherboard/ASUS-motherboards-Win11-ready/)

                    "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                    Roger Wright
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                    Yes. And all required features (TPM 2.0, Secure Boot, DirectX 12 support) are installed and enabled.

                    Will Rogers never met me.

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                    • H honey the codewitch

                      If I had glanced at your username before I replied I wouldn't have expected a helpful response anyway. Have a nice day.

                      Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch/gfx

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                      Jeremy Falcon
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                      Cool. So we established you don’t fully read the posts you reply to. Have a nice day.

                      Jeremy Falcon

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                      • J Jeremy Falcon

                        Cool. So we established you don’t fully read the posts you reply to. Have a nice day.

                        Jeremy Falcon

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                        honey the codewitch
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                        I read the part where you said don't expect a reply from you. As you replied twice.

                        Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch/gfx

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                        • H honey the codewitch

                          I read the part where you said don't expect a reply from you. As you replied twice.

                          Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch/gfx

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                          Jeremy Falcon
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                          Clearly, being as argumentative as you are… you feel the need to get the last word. Fine, you can have it. Just leave me alone. I tire of this childish behavior.

                          Jeremy Falcon

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                            Clearly, being as argumentative as you are… you feel the need to get the last word. Fine, you can have it. Just leave me alone. I tire of this childish behavior.

                            Jeremy Falcon

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                            honey the codewitch
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                            That's three times you responded telling me you weren't going to respond. Seems you really want an argument. Go ahead and respond again, telling me how you won't.

                            Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch/gfx

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                            • J Jeremy Falcon

                              Roger Wright wrote:

                              I've assembled a lot of PC's in the past 30 years, for myself and for others. I've never experienced a single glitch, as everything has always gone perfectly smoothly.

                              It's probably the RAM, everything else is cookie-cutter. Motherboards come with a _lot_ of optimizations these days in the areas of CPU, GPU, and RAM. Assuming you're supplying enough power to all the parts or you're not overheating... Here's what you need to do: * Go get a BIOS update on a USB stick from another computer. Update your BIOS to fix any bugs, etc. since the motherboard was released. * Then go into your BIOS and disable *ALL* optimizations - especially for your RAM. * Now, install windows. Go through the Windows update process, etc. * Then and only then, turn back on those optimizations one-by-one to see if you still have a problem.

                              Roger Wright wrote:

                              But I've never used an ASUS motherboard. I will never do so again.

                              ASUS sucks now. They used to be awesome. Times change.

                              Jeremy Falcon

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                              ... I agree, probably RAM. Saw the video on ASUS. Thanx, news to me. If accurate, beware. I have built my share of computer systems. ... BTW, be tolerant of argumentative feedback. You are pretty good at it yourself. It's all good. That's how we learn. Ciao

                              "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                                ... I agree, probably RAM. Saw the video on ASUS. Thanx, news to me. If accurate, beware. I have built my share of computer systems. ... BTW, be tolerant of argumentative feedback. You are pretty good at it yourself. It's all good. That's how we learn. Ciao

                                "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                                Update on ASUS The ASUS Problem & Resolution: Buying Media, Warranties, & Improvements - YouTube[^]

                                "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                                  ... I agree, probably RAM. Saw the video on ASUS. Thanx, news to me. If accurate, beware. I have built my share of computer systems. ... BTW, be tolerant of argumentative feedback. You are pretty good at it yourself. It's all good. That's how we learn. Ciao

                                  "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                                  Jeremy Falcon
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                                  I’m on my phone, so I can’t properly quote text… but any time man. About the arguments… totally guilty. :) These days, I see it as a waste of time and energy though. It only distracts from the people I want to talk to. I’ve managed enough people to know those that only disagree are usually lousy team players. And a few of them are bad at their job. Some aren’t. A lot are. It’s just wasting time. Anywho, I see what you’re saying, and that’s why I ask the bad characters to leave me alone. I’m tired of them. They won’t though. Dang Internet.

                                  Jeremy Falcon

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                                    I’m on my phone, so I can’t properly quote text… but any time man. About the arguments… totally guilty. :) These days, I see it as a waste of time and energy though. It only distracts from the people I want to talk to. I’ve managed enough people to know those that only disagree are usually lousy team players. And a few of them are bad at their job. Some aren’t. A lot are. It’s just wasting time. Anywho, I see what you’re saying, and that’s why I ask the bad characters to leave me alone. I’m tired of them. They won’t though. Dang Internet.

                                    Jeremy Falcon

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                                    jmaida
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                                    True. Some folks just argue for the sake of it. Not team players for sure. Tiresome and not constructive.

                                    "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                                      It's possible, Richard, but I've no reliable way to test it. The motherboard BIOS setup includes MEMTEST86, but the results are inconclusive. It bails out and fails while running, but the summary results say PASS: 100%. Go figure. There are other memory test utilities out there, but they all assume an operating system is there to execute them. I do have a fresh copy of Ubuntu that I can try, I guess.

                                      Will Rogers never met me.

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                                      Nelek
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                                      Hiren's stopped the work a while ago, but there is another new DVD of it for PC's from windows 10 times. It might bring a couple of tools inside helpfull for the new hardware.

                                      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                        I’m on my phone, so I can’t properly quote text… but any time man. About the arguments… totally guilty. :) These days, I see it as a waste of time and energy though. It only distracts from the people I want to talk to. I’ve managed enough people to know those that only disagree are usually lousy team players. And a few of them are bad at their job. Some aren’t. A lot are. It’s just wasting time. Anywho, I see what you’re saying, and that’s why I ask the bad characters to leave me alone. I’m tired of them. They won’t though. Dang Internet.

                                        Jeremy Falcon

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                                        Nelek
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                                        English question from a non native here...

                                        Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                        Anywho

                                        Anywho? Or Anyhow?

                                        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                        • R Roger Wright

                                          I'll give the BIOS update a try next week. For now, I'm taking a weekend away from this thing. I used to buy only SuperMicro boards, but they've gone to selling only server boards and complete workstations. That's a shame, because they've always been the gold standard for quality to me. I wish there was some visibility into what the setup process is doing... it would make it so much easier to diagnose things. Why does it crash at 4% - what's it doing???

                                          Will Rogers never met me.

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                                          Nelek
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                                          My current one is a MSI and I am pretty happy with how it works. My systems is MSI Board, AMD 7 CPU, Viper RAM, Crucial NVME SSD, and the rest is from BeQuiet (Case, PowerUnit, Fans, CPU Fantower...) Running smooth since the very beginning. I know it doesn't help you a lot right now, just wanted to name some alternatives. Good luck solving your issues :) :thumbsup:

                                          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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